Lego Mafia [Standard] - GAME OVER

[thehumantrashcan]

Thanks Sooh.

[Cuth]

 

 

Crusher has been stand offish but his voting hasn't been scummy at all.

100% stand offish. Just fighting in my head. I have given my views. Sooh is very hard to get away from because of her actions around both lynches. In any other game with more than two scum mates it would seem townish considering town starts with no idea who scum is. But when it is town doing it they give reasons and explanations why they did it. But in a two scum game I have to think the other partner would do anything not to lose its team mate on first lynch.

 

You had a vote on the train that made me feel scum would not make. I brought it up abbot ago. You never playing on line and the odd two man scum team dynamic makes it tough for me to think it's you.

 

Wifi is very hard to get a solid read on. Her logic is unique and very hard to discern the intention of it. Yet pretty much had her as my second for scum most of the game.

 

Cuth is the wildcard. I read him over and over and honestly haven't got a clue. Sadly if it's him he is probably going to win.

 

Don't see myself voting younor Cuth today.

 

Crusher's final POE, thoughts?

 

what do you mean "thoughts?"

 

like i've said, i disagree on your vote on iron, and i disagree with his reasoning on sooh

 

what else do you want and why is it even particularly relevant

 

unless you're trying to say that since he thought sooh was the most likely scum that's where we should strongly consider going?

 

 

 

 

Yeah, Crusher has hardly anything posted and a couple of empty promises of playing and being involved but then doesn't follow through.  I'm not really sure what to make of that.  There has been that little back and forth with Iron but from what I've seen between them it just emphasizes either one is scum and the other is town.  Didn't really pick up on any fake arguing.  

 

I'm exhausted, I have so much more work to do on the house tomorrow and I don't have time to sort through iron to double check but since there hasn't been enough for me to point a finger at crusher I'll go with Iron.

 

[v] ironeyes [v]

This post made me think he is town.

 

Do you both want to keep thinking I'm not town, I've got similar posts by Darthe too.  Cuth you once even posted you felt me being town early game, I guess I'm just missing where you two think I began acting as scum?

 

...

 

have you read the thread? i don't mean to be rude, but crusher and i discussed both this post and the reasoning at it in some length

 

tl;dr: i thought that was an optimal place to bus, on a teammate that was likely to be lynched sooner or later, and it was not particularly towny

 

 

 

Wifi, No lynch is not really a train by regular standards, plus you have to take into account whether or not you think people have a natural progression. Yes, Cuth voted me, but he also stated his reasons for changing his mind, and they rang true to me. Oscar's however, he didn't really have a convincing reason to vote me to begin with, and he never solidified it or made any sort of progression on his read on me as the day moved on. That sort of stagnant behavior is highly suspicious to me.

  

Actually 

 

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[v]Oscar[/v]

Making a Point maybe? Can't believe you honestly believe oscar would catch up. Still wondering what made you feel it couldn't be ironeyes.

 

Could you answer this question Crusher asked you, what did make you feel it couldn't be iron?  Cuth, does this move really make you think she is town?

again, i think her behavior around both EoDs was suboptimal

 

the thing is, the rest of the game her play and tone has been very good

 

you? your EoDs have been meh and your tone the rest of the game has not been as good

 

and i think she's done more to make up for it than you have

 

 

meh

 

[v]wifi[/v]

 

I do feel like trashcan is all over the place and trying to lynch everybody

 

but he did vote for iron, even if that would have been a decent spot for bussing

 

and wifi's behavior at EoDs 1 and 2 was just bad

Explain to me how I have been all over the place to lynch everybody.  I have consistently focused on Sooh.  How was my spot for voting Iron bussing?

yesterday "there's enough evidence for sooh and wifi (both of these people need to be lynched, so you need to point out that you're scumreading both of them) but i'm just going for this one today"

 

this whole game you have been oscillating all over the place with who you want to lynch or no lynch at any given moment, more so these last two phases

 

like you may have been focusing on sooh, but also saying "these people are also very scummy, and while i wouldn't mind lynching them, I'd rather lynch sooh"

 

bussing, again, iron was likely to go down given the pressure being put on him from darthe/lenlo, even if someone else was lynched he'd most likely have been dead by d3

 

i see it as not very unlikely that scum iron could have said "why don't you just hop on"

 

the post stuck out to me at the time as potentially being that

 

 

 

 

From here I really am stabbing in the dark, I lean towards Sooh being scum because of her being reactionary but I don't want to jump the gun on her because I'm an American-Norgie don't really want to lynch someone who might be blood.

 

Dice is a meany head but I said I would be nice so I won't vote for him D1, however, he seems a lot more quiet than he was in the Wild West mafia so I am actually suspicious.

 

From the little I know of Darthe in the Wild West game, he seems like Darthe. But like I said, I don't know his tone. Also, his name is awesome so I lean towards town on him.

 

Cuth seems to be wolf hunting, need at least two other people's confirmation to be confident of that and go hard town. For now leaning town.

 

Iron, your play rubs me the wrong way so I'm leaning scum. However you are taking physics and as a nerd who loved physics I know we can rub people the wrong way so I am on the fence with you. (What kind of physics are you taking?)

 

Also, Tacos!!!!

 

That's all for now.

 

 

 

 

No lynch works if everyone is bein towny and there's no good lynch option. Then we gotta see who the wolves kill and can build off of that.

 

For this though, we have some early suspects and I don't see why we can't run them up. At least give them a scare.

 

Also, back from lectures for the day, gonna reread abit. See if I find anythin.

i support this post

 

Agreed, since I only feel confident about one scum read I'll go for it and my God have mercy on my soul if I'm wrong.

 

Vote: Sooh

 

Reasoning; how heavily defensive she got over an accusation that was clearly a joke/attempt to get things going. It's not super strong but it's the best I got.

 

This progression seems a bit sudden and unwarranted to me. Going from "stabbing in the dark" to "being confident" without me having posted in between seems like a bit of a stretch to me. 

 

Also "confident" and "it's not super strong" seems like an odd thing to say in one post.

 

[v]Oscar[/v]

 

I pretty much feel like I went through everything already and I'm just rehashing old stuff, but I just wanted to bring up the same points I did here, plus he called Lenlo lock town super early on.

 

I still don't understand how me locking Lenlo as town super early is suspicious. Yes, I was going on little for that first post but there was very little to go on D1 so I went with what I have.  I figured first day, if we mislynch we can build on that better than mislynch later, as we've seen.

scum generally like to pick one or two solid townreads early on in the game and just stick with them the whole way, and that came across as an insufficient reason to call him lock town 

 

screwed up formatting, sorry

 

is bold now

[Cuth]

wait what

 

how did it even become redbold

 

i did nothing to make it be redbold

[Cuth]

 

 

 

 

Crusher has been stand offish but his voting hasn't been scummy at all.

100% stand offish. Just fighting in my head. I have given my views. Sooh is very hard to get away from because of her actions around both lynches. In any other game with more than two scum mates it would seem townish considering town starts with no idea who scum is. But when it is town doing it they give reasons and explanations why they did it. But in a two scum game I have to think the other partner would do anything not to lose its team mate on first lynch.

You had a vote on the train that made me feel scum would not make. I brought it up abbot ago. You never playing on line and the odd two man scum team dynamic makes it tough for me to think it's you.

Wifi is very hard to get a solid read on. Her logic is unique and very hard to discern the intention of it. Yet pretty much had her as my second for scum most of the game.

Cuth is the wildcard. I read him over and over and honestly haven't got a clue. Sadly if it's him he is probably going to win.

Don't see myself voting younor Cuth today.

 

Crusher's final POE, thoughts?

 

what do you mean "thoughts?"

 

like i've said, i disagree on your vote on iron, and i disagree with his reasoning on sooh

 

what else do you want and why is it even particularly relevant

 

unless you're trying to say that since he thought sooh was the most likely scum that's where we should strongly consider going?

 

 

 

 

Yeah, Crusher has hardly anything posted and a couple of empty promises of playing and being involved but then doesn't follow through.  I'm not really sure what to make of that.  There has been that little back and forth with Iron but from what I've seen between them it just emphasizes either one is scum and the other is town.  Didn't really pick up on any fake arguing.  
 
I'm exhausted, I have so much more work to do on the house tomorrow and I don't have time to sort through iron to double check but since there hasn't been enough for me to point a finger at crusher I'll go with Iron.
 
[v] ironeyes [v]

This post made me think he is town.

 

Do you both want to keep thinking I'm not town, I've got similar posts by Darthe too.  Cuth you once even posted you felt me being town early game, I guess I'm just missing where you two think I began acting as scum?

 

...

 

have you read the thread? i don't mean to be rude, but crusher and i discussed both this post and the reasoning at it in some length

 

tl;dr: i thought that was an optimal place to bus, on a teammate that was likely to be lynched sooner or later, and it was not particularly towny

 

 

 

Wifi, No lynch is not really a train by regular standards, plus you have to take into account whether or not you think people have a natural progression. Yes, Cuth voted me, but he also stated his reasons for changing his mind, and they rang true to me. Oscar's however, he didn't really have a convincing reason to vote me to begin with, and he never solidified it or made any sort of progression on his read on me as the day moved on. That sort of stagnant behavior is highly suspicious to me.

  

Actually 
 
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[v]Oscar[/v]

Making a Point maybe? Can't believe you honestly believe oscar would catch up. Still wondering what made you feel it couldn't be ironeyes.

 

Could you answer this question Crusher asked you, what did make you feel it couldn't be iron?  Cuth, does this move really make you think she is town?

again, i think her behavior around both EoDs was suboptimal

 

the thing is, the rest of the game her play and tone has been very good

 

you? your EoDs have been meh and your tone the rest of the game has not been as good

 

and i think she's done more to make up for it than you have

 

 

meh

 

[v]wifi[/v]

 

I do feel like trashcan is all over the place and trying to lynch everybody

 

but he did vote for iron, even if that would have been a decent spot for bussing

 

and wifi's behavior at EoDs 1 and 2 was just bad

Explain to me how I have been all over the place to lynch everybody.  I have consistently focused on Sooh.  How was my spot for voting Iron bussing?

yesterday "there's enough evidence for sooh and wifi (both of these people need to be lynched, so you need to point out that you're scumreading both of them) but i'm just going for this one today"

 

this whole game you have been oscillating all over the place with who you want to lynch or no lynch at any given moment, more so these last two phases

 

like you may have been focusing on sooh, but also saying "these people are also very scummy, and while i wouldn't mind lynching them, I'd rather lynch sooh"

 

bussing, again, iron was likely to go down given the pressure being put on him from darthe/lenlo, even if someone else was lynched he'd most likely have been dead by d3

 

i see it as not very unlikely that scum iron could have said "why don't you just hop on"

 

the post stuck out to me at the time as potentially being that

 

 

 

 

From here I really am stabbing in the dark, I lean towards Sooh being scum because of her being reactionary but I don't want to jump the gun on her because I'm an American-Norgie don't really want to lynch someone who might be blood.

Dice is a meany head but I said I would be nice so I won't vote for him D1, however, he seems a lot more quiet than he was in the Wild West mafia so I am actually suspicious.

From the little I know of Darthe in the Wild West game, he seems like Darthe. But like I said, I don't know his tone. Also, his name is awesome so I lean towards town on him.

Cuth seems to be wolf hunting, need at least two other people's confirmation to be confident of that and go hard town. For now leaning town.

Iron, your play rubs me the wrong way so I'm leaning scum. However you are taking physics and as a nerd who loved physics I know we can rub people the wrong way so I am on the fence with you. (What kind of physics are you taking?)

Also, Tacos!!!!

That's all for now.

 

 

 

 

No lynch works if everyone is bein towny and there's no good lynch option. Then we gotta see who the wolves kill and can build off of that.

For this though, we have some early suspects and I don't see why we can't run them up. At least give them a scare.

Also, back from lectures for the day, gonna reread abit. See if I find anythin.

i support this post

 

Agreed, since I only feel confident about one scum read I'll go for it and my God have mercy on my soul if I'm wrong.

 

Vote: Sooh

 

Reasoning; how heavily defensive she got over an accusation that was clearly a joke/attempt to get things going. It's not super strong but it's the best I got.

 

This progression seems a bit sudden and unwarranted to me. Going from "stabbing in the dark" to "being confident" without me having posted in between seems like a bit of a stretch to me. 

 

Also "confident" and "it's not super strong" seems like an odd thing to say in one post.

 

[v]Oscar[/v]

 

I pretty much feel like I went through everything already and I'm just rehashing old stuff, but I just wanted to bring up the same points I did here, plus he called Lenlo lock town super early on.

 

I still don't understand how me locking Lenlo as town super early is suspicious. Yes, I was going on little for that first post but there was very little to go on D1 so I went with what I have.  I figured first day, if we mislynch we can build on that better than mislynch later, as we've seen.

scum generally like to pick one or two solid townreads early on in the game and just stick with them the whole way, and that came across as an insufficient reason to call him lock town 

[Cuth]

why reeeddddddd

[BFG]

The red is from a broken vote tag lol

In both thtc original post and quoted posts :p

[thehumantrashcan]

I have no idea, I don't know what happened sorry Cuth.  

 

I never went on how someone was very scummy, I gave my thoughts about where I thought they were on my scum and town spectrum.  We're talking about a game where people are pretending to be certain characters and then we decide who is lying about the pretending.  Unless there is something obvious, it's almost impossible to lock anyone in so yeah you talk about how someone might be a little scummy/townie but I never ever said this person is so scummy Imma vote for them, except Sooh and iron.  So no, I have not been everywhere, just considering if I'm right in said serious scummy suss.  Alliteration! 

[Cuth]

 

 

 

 

Please somebody come and talk it through with me.

what do you want me to say

 

Idk. What are your thoughts on all of this? The stuff I'm digging up and such? and what are you doing?

 

it's all stuff i've seen and thought about before

 

idk

 

i still think it's probably wifi, but lynching her>trashcan ~always wins the game

 

Wins the game for scum?  Cuth, are you scum?

 

 

 

:I

 

thank you for that intelligent game-solving question

 

the answer is still no

 

and i'm quite certain it's clear what i meant

i'm probably not the best qualified to answer this, but i will say that my whole playstyle is this

 

i pop into thread a lot

 

i ~never finish mass ISOs, this happened during wild west for example, and many other times

 

i despise putting any digging effort in unless i really have to

 

that's the reason i post like i do

 

is faster and what i picked up on from other players

 

i'm overall an interaction centered player, and that's definitely not just this game

Not easy to depend on interactions in a game where the players generally stay in the thread for only short spurts of time every time they pop in.

It is so frustrating when you both have the same play style of interaction.  I feel as though you've done a better job of looking through stuff while Cuth not so much.  Sooh, do you think Cuth could have been focusing on stirring the pot this whole time, he hasn't do much in the way of finding extensive quotes like you.

 

 

 

again, same thing

 

since i hate rereading and rarely do do extensive quotes as any alignment 

 

this is pretty clearly a playstyle difference and not an alignment issue at all

 

 

It makes me really sad that we're one hour from lynch in final 5, and there are no people around to post and figure this game out.

i feel like i've already said everything there is to say

 

we no lynched yesterday, and this is the cost

 

I don't understand how this is the cost, we took a chance to get a read from the cop and we didn't get it.  If we had lynched that day we would have been over just sooner.  This post makes me really think Cuth is scum.  This reasoning makes no sense.  If we had moved forward with wifi that day we'd be in the same situation as now.

 

 

yup i know

 

again mechanically it was probably a good idea

 

again it wasted a bunch of our time :P

 

and we did do a fair amount of discussion the day beforehand, and there genuinely was not much to say

[Cuth]

I have no idea, I don't know what happened sorry Cuth.  

 

I never went on how someone was very scummy, I gave my thoughts about where I thought they were on my scum and town spectrum.  We're talking about a game where people are pretending to be certain characters and then we decide who is lying about the pretending.  Unless there is something obvious, it's almost impossible to lock anyone in so yeah you talk about how someone might be a little scummy/townie but I never ever said this person is so scummy Imma vote for them, except Sooh and iron.  So no, I have not been everywhere, just considering if I'm right in said serious scummy suss.  Alliteration! 

however, you did lock lenlo in with basically nothing

 

and you consistently threw shade around, if not the vote

 

you generally had one or two clear targets, but seemed to be doing your best to keep the PoE open

[Cuth]

wait no

 

you're just scum

[Cuth]

rather than pushing the person you actually strongly believe is scum and trying to convince me, a clear you voter at SoD, to vote there

 

you gave up because you thought it would be easier to convince sooh to vote for me?

 

you don't actually care who you lynch, do you

[thehumantrashcan]

No, I do, I'm not scum and I have expressed why I voted for wifi, very clearly and why I had not up until then, her RL sickness made me doubt her as scum and I was right.  If you're so set on me being scum go ahead and vote and if Sooh is scum she'll quickly vote and win.  Go ahead, your mind has been made up, I won't be able to convince you that Sooh is scum so go ahead.  If Sooh isn't scum then she'll wait around and respond to what I asked her because you both have expressed how long this is taking.  Go ahead. no need to waste any more time since this game is taking so long.

[Cuth]

No, I do, I'm not scum and I have expressed why I voted for wifi, very clearly and why I had not up until then, her RL sickness made me doubt her as scum and I was right.  If you're so set on me being scum go ahead and vote and if Sooh is scum she'll quickly vote and win.  Go ahead, your mind has been made up, I won't be able to convince you that Sooh is scum so go ahead.  If Sooh isn't scum then she'll wait around and respond to what I asked her because you both have expressed how long this is taking.  Go ahead. no need to waste any more time since this game is taking so long.

ugh

 

see, you were giving me posts and trying to get me to draw my own conclusions

 

but i already drew them

 

if you actually wanted to try to convince me, show me and explain why stuff makes her scummy imo

 

because i'm not seeing it

 

but i don't just want to snap vote you 

[Sooh]

*removed vote tags because annoying redness.

 

 

Wifi, No lynch is not really a train by regular standards, plus you have to take into account whether or not you think people have a natural progression. Yes, Cuth voted me, but he also stated his reasons for changing his mind, and they rang true to me. Oscar's however, he didn't really have a convincing reason to vote me to begin with, and he never solidified it or made any sort of progression on his read on me as the day moved on. That sort of stagnant behavior is highly suspicious to me.

  

Actually 
 
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Oscar

Making a Point maybe? Can't believe you honestly believe oscar would catch up. Still wondering what made you feel it couldn't be ironeyes.

 

Could you answer this question Crusher asked you, what did make you feel it couldn't be iron?  Cuth, does this move really make you think she is town?

 

You found the answer for this one, right? That it was more about the lack of development on reads than anything else.
 

 

 

 

Seriously. If I'm this huge doubt on people's minds, bigger than anyone else in this game, I'd rather be mislynched today than tomorrow. Maybe if I'm not in the game anymore you guys can concentrate on finding the last scum.

Kinda leaning this way.

 

I suppose I should have backed Crusher up on this, but why call me out for willing to sacrifice myself when you did it here and previously?  If being willing to sacrifice myself makes me suss, why doesn't it make you suss?

 

When you suggested it it was still D1. Plenty of time for us to get a good read on you for later. In terms of when I suggested it it was final 5, and my presence seemed to make people confused and unfocused, and they were certainly not listening to my thoughts. Perhaps it would have been easier to read my analysis and take it more seriously if they knew I was town.

 

In terms of it making you suss, not necessarily, but it's never a good thing for town to be lynched on D1. We also don't know you well enough to decide whether you'd attempt this gambit as scum or not. 

 

It's not the best answer probably, but it's the best I can do.

 

 

 

From here I really am stabbing in the dark, I lean towards Sooh being scum because of her being reactionary but I don't want to jump the gun on her because I'm an American-Norgie don't really want to lynch someone who might be blood.

Dice is a meany head but I said I would be nice so I won't vote for him D1, however, he seems a lot more quiet than he was in the Wild West mafia so I am actually suspicious.

From the little I know of Darthe in the Wild West game, he seems like Darthe. But like I said, I don't know his tone. Also, his name is awesome so I lean towards town on him.

Cuth seems to be wolf hunting, need at least two other people's confirmation to be confident of that and go hard town. For now leaning town.

Iron, your play rubs me the wrong way so I'm leaning scum. However you are taking physics and as a nerd who loved physics I know we can rub people the wrong way so I am on the fence with you. (What kind of physics are you taking?)

Also, Tacos!!!!

That's all for now.

 
 

 

 

No lynch works if everyone is bein towny and there's no good lynch option. Then we gotta see who the wolves kill and can build off of that.

For this though, we have some early suspects and I don't see why we can't run them up. At least give them a scare.

Also, back from lectures for the day, gonna reread abit. See if I find anythin.

i support this post

 

Agreed, since I only feel confident about one scum read I'll go for it and my God have mercy on my soul if I'm wrong.
 
Vote: Sooh
 
Reasoning; how heavily defensive she got over an accusation that was clearly a joke/attempt to get things going. It's not super strong but it's the best I got.

 

This progression seems a bit sudden and unwarranted to me. Going from "stabbing in the dark" to "being confident" without me having posted in between seems like a bit of a stretch to me. 
 
Also "confident" and "it's not super strong" seems like an odd thing to say in one post.
 
Oscar

 

I pretty much feel like I went through everything already and I'm just rehashing old stuff, but I just wanted to bring up the same points I did here, plus he called Lenlo lock town super early on.

 

I still don't understand how me locking Lenlo as town super early is suspicious. Yes, I was going on little for that first post but there was very little to go on D1 so I went with what I have.  I figured first day, if we mislynch we can build on that better than mislynch later, as we've seen.

 

It's just that it's a very bold read. Seeing as this is your first forum game I was surprised by some of your word usage. You seemed too certain, like you had more background info than the rest of us, TMI.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who was it that suggested No Lynch?
 
I'm almost there.

darthe
 
idk

 

Any thoughts, or are you like me watching to see what will happen?

 

i'm not sure
 
i don't feel amazing about the iron wagon
 
people are just hopping on because it's the only one there, and nobody's really talked about him apart from that
 
don't know how to feel exactly but if everybody is watching and nobody's talking i don't think it helps either

 

*Spidey tingly tinfoily feels for a second*

 

Is this because that post is very scummy for Cuth?

 

Not very, but it made me pause when I was rereading.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

meh who am i kidding i'm not finishing this, or at least not now

 

i do think darthe does look pretty bad, but judge for yourselves

 

want to hear your input

Did you ever finish this?

 

Why/Why not?

 

no, because i never do

 

i have a very hard time putting more effort in a chunk, ISOs in particular, into a game than it needs

 

and at that point in particular i had already found a strongish scumread

 

and it really usually isn't worth the time and effort for me, I prefer interactions

 

Sooh, do you think Cuth is pulling back so we just keep infighting and let him coast for a win?

 

Not easy to depend on interactions in a game where the players generally stay in the thread for only short spurts of time every time they pop in.

It is so frustrating when you both have the same play style of interaction.  I feel as though you've done a better job of looking through stuff while Cuth not so much.  Sooh, do you think Cuth could have been focusing on stirring the pot this whole time, he hasn't do much in the way of finding extensive quotes like you.

 

Well, A for effort isn't really what you should go by when you're looking for the final scum. That being said I'm a bit surprised at the lack of direction that Cuth has had all game. He has been pushing, but not insisting. Not sure if I have it in me, but I might go and find an old town game of his and read some of his ISO just to see if it looks similar to here.

[Sooh]

Cuth? How certain are you that it's Oscar and not me?

[Cuth]

Cuth? How certain are you that it's Oscar and not me?

eighty percent

[Sooh]

Oscar? Have you decided on who you think it is? And how sure are you?

[thehumantrashcan]

What do you have to say about Cuth's reluctance to vote for me right now despite him talking about how he believes I'm scum?  It would be a sure way to prove you as town.  And he has emphasized you are townie only second to Crusher.  But now he says voting for me is a snap vote.

[Sooh]

Oscar? Have you decided on who you think it is? And how sure are you?

 

Could you answer this one first please?

[thehumantrashcan]

I think because of Cuth's reluctance to vote and prove you as Town.

[thehumantrashcan]

That you are town and Cuth is scum.  Your point about Cuth being noncommittal is suss adds to this.

[thehumantrashcan]

Since he's 80 % sure on me but refuses to vote for me, complaining this is taking to long but then claiming he doesn't want to snap vote  on me despite being 80% sure, yeah Cuth is scum.

[Cuth]

What do you have to say about Cuth's reluctance to vote for me right now despite him talking about how he believes I'm scum?  It would be a sure way to prove you as town.  And he has emphasized you are townie only second to Crusher.  But now he says voting for me is a snap vote.

right now i'm barely paying attention to the thread 

 

i'm not 100% certain

 

i wanted to talk it through with you and sooh before snap voting

 

i'm saying snap voting because it's a fast vote close to the beginning of a phase and not at deadline

 

probably not the most correct term but eh

[thehumantrashcan]

He knows if he votes for me right now it proves you Town and get's rid of the scum triangle going on right now.