[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[MrsClov]

 

 

i'll be around for another 30 minutes or so, study a bit more Mandarin and then play a bit of banjo

 

AMA, just quote it please if it's in the past :P

Ew good luck with the Mandarin. One of my best friends tried to teach me Chinese when we were younger, it didn't go well and whenever I went to her house I thought her mom was super angry because of it being tonal. 

 

I really need to work on my Quantative  Business Analysis project, but I don't wanna.

 

just starting, am currently learning (if much farther on in) spanish and german

 

but Chinese would be a really useful language for me to know and I'd like to at least have a basic grasp on it 

 

and i enjoy languages and i got my cousin to be an accountable study partner

 

so i feel good about it :D

 

of note: i think the character for horse is really pretty 马

 

On page 6? I think of my reread.  Just wanted to off topic chime in on this for a second- if you ever want to know stuff about Korean other Clov would be a good one to ask :) 

[Cuth]

im just saying i generally read him well when he is town.

@darthe, do you agree with this?

[Cuth]

 

 

 

i'll be around for another 30 minutes or so, study a bit more Mandarin and then play a bit of banjo

 

AMA, just quote it please if it's in the past :P

Ew good luck with the Mandarin. One of my best friends tried to teach me Chinese when we were younger, it didn't go well and whenever I went to her house I thought her mom was super angry because of it being tonal. 

 

I really need to work on my Quantative  Business Analysis project, but I don't wanna.

 

just starting, am currently learning (if much farther on in) spanish and german

 

but Chinese would be a really useful language for me to know and I'd like to at least have a basic grasp on it 

 

and i enjoy languages and i got my cousin to be an accountable study partner

 

so i feel good about it :D

 

of note: i think the character for horse is really pretty 马

 

On page 6? I think of my reread.  Just wanted to off topic chime in on this for a second- if you ever want to know stuff about Korean other Clov would be a good one to ask :) 

 

who is chris exactly in relation to you

[seph]

that's difficult tbh. before i left he had taken a step back and was posting less. his town game though is always high energy/good tone/ provoking.  as scum i feel like he is more laid back in all of the areas. I generally find him harder to read as the game goes on, but sticking with my read d1 on him, hasn't bitten me in the butt for awhile. 

its really just which game he decides to play. And i don't think he replicates his town game as scum at this lvl.
just my opinion imo.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

 

i'll be around for another 30 minutes or so, study a bit more Mandarin and then play a bit of banjo

 

AMA, just quote it please if it's in the past :P

Ew good luck with the Mandarin. One of my best friends tried to teach me Chinese when we were younger, it didn't go well and whenever I went to her house I thought her mom was super angry because of it being tonal.

 

I really need to work on my Quantative Business Analysis project, but I don't wanna.

just starting, am currently learning (if much farther on in) spanish and german

 

but Chinese would be a really useful language for me to know and I'd like to at least have a basic grasp on it

 

and i enjoy languages and i got my cousin to be an accountable study partner

 

so i feel good about it :D

 

of note: i think the character for horse is really pretty

马

On page 6? I think of my reread. Just wanted to off topic chime in on this for a second- if you ever want to know stuff about Korean other Clov would be a good one to ask :)

who is chris exactly in relation to you

You referring to Mr and Mrs Clov?

 

Guess.

[Cuth]

that's difficult tbh. before i left he had taken a step back and was posting less. his town game though is always high energy/good tone/ provoking.  as scum i feel like he is more laid back in all of the areas. I generally find him harder to read as the game goes on, but sticking with my read d1 on him, hasn't bitten me in the butt for awhile. 

 

its really just which game he decides to play. And i don't think he replicates his town game as scum at this lvl.

just my opinion imo.

coolio

[Cuth]

 

 

 

 

 

i'll be around for another 30 minutes or so, study a bit more Mandarin and then play a bit of banjo

 

AMA, just quote it please if it's in the past :P

Ew good luck with the Mandarin. One of my best friends tried to teach me Chinese when we were younger, it didn't go well and whenever I went to her house I thought her mom was super angry because of it being tonal.

 

I really need to work on my Quantative Business Analysis project, but I don't wanna.

just starting, am currently learning (if much farther on in) spanish and german

 

but Chinese would be a really useful language for me to know and I'd like to at least have a basic grasp on it

 

and i enjoy languages and i got my cousin to be an accountable study partner

 

so i feel good about it :D

 

of note: i think the character for horse is really pretty

马

On page 6? I think of my reread. Just wanted to off topic chime in on this for a second- if you ever want to know stuff about Korean other Clov would be a good one to ask :)

who is chris exactly in relation to you

You referring to Mr and Mrs Clov?

 

Guess.

 

yes but could hypothetically be siblings

 

didn't want to be wrong lol

[Cuth]

okay i'm off for the night

 

seph i'd like you to take your vote off of lizaclov if you don't mind for now

 

looking forward to seeing where we're at in the morning and a pleasant evening/night/day/morning to everyone

[seph]

[unvote] sounds good. night

[MrsClov]

 

 

 

 

i'll be around for another 30 minutes or so, study a bit more Mandarin and then play a bit of banjo

 

AMA, just quote it please if it's in the past :P

Ew good luck with the Mandarin. One of my best friends tried to teach me Chinese when we were younger, it didn't go well and whenever I went to her house I thought her mom was super angry because of it being tonal. 

 

I really need to work on my Quantative  Business Analysis project, but I don't wanna.

 

just starting, am currently learning (if much farther on in) spanish and german

 

but Chinese would be a really useful language for me to know and I'd like to at least have a basic grasp on it 

 

and i enjoy languages and i got my cousin to be an accountable study partner

 

so i feel good about it :D

 

of note: i think the character for horse is really pretty 马

 

On page 6? I think of my reread.  Just wanted to off topic chime in on this for a second- if you ever want to know stuff about Korean other Clov would be a good one to ask :) 

 

who is chris exactly in relation to you

 

 

He's my husband, note the MRS.

[dicetosser1]

Although now that I think about it, his going out of the way to point out that "he was already planning to vote" to dissuade the omgus concept is weird.

 

I posted a post  saw liz had just posted and voted me so i made it clear because it was going to be my next post no matter what.

 

 

@Dice

 

Why me for Tonto, Johnny Depp or otherwise?

 

 

@SEPHHHHHHHHH!!!!

 

Howdy, Stranger!

 

Penny for your thoughts?

 

*offers up her own seat at the bar*

 

a) kinda hard to have Tonto ride along besides me if he is in a different country isnt it??

 

b) ive liked ure game so far am leaning town on u (which probably means ure scum)

 

c) if it turns out you ARE scum?? its much easier to push you off ure horese if ure next to me

 

d) cause it was fun.

 

 

seph, on 12 Feb 2017 - 2:38 PM, said:

 

pretty sure i want to just lock dice in as town

 

 

The padawan is becoming a master. i like it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its still a contradiction  mrsclov   sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

No,  you're making it a contradiction, most likely because it involves you. It was an "Oh yeah, I'm in a hydra" moment. I didn't know about the vote on you until after the vote was placed and we talked it out. So that's when she mentioned conferring with me on Darthe. We fill the same spot, and that's not something either of us are used to doing. It is just a result of us trying to figure out how to hydra for the first time, but you're making it into something else.

Bold:

So order of hydra events:

 

- Vote Dice

- Discuss Dice vote

- Discuss conferring on Darthe ?

 

Not necessarily just Darthe just hey let's discuss before we vote, but otherwise you are correct. As you can see from our vote, we agreed to keep it on Dice.

 

Either one can answer this but I don't remember seeing it. Why did you all decide to keep your vote on dice after the joke vote? was it just the omgus reason? I don't think liz ever shared her conclusion.

 

 

 

Oh good grief you all are impatient. We were trying to figure out how he'd react since he's one of the few players we've both played with and trying to get a read that way. He seemed to only be staying on the topic of Liz and I voting for him to the point where it's been beaten like a rug. I wanted to see if he'd address other topics or not and how other people would respond. He hasn't been back in the thread as far as I know since I explained we're trying to get used to being a hydra. I want to see his reaction to this. 

 

 

red   interesting. How many posts did i actually make about you two? 3? maybe 4? thats staying on you to the point of being beaten like a rug is it? Most of the pressure you have had   like 90% of it has come from people OTHER THEN ME. I started it yes but im not the one thats been carrying it on as i wasnt here. So that red line comes across badly to me as it seems you are trying to make me look bad for something i didnt do.

 

As for looking at others?? there wasnt a lot of people active when i voted to look at and im watching people but if you think thats gonna get my focus off you then ure sadly mistaken.

I tend to see something grab it and stick to it. 

 

there have been some responses from you two that i dont like. That post darthe pointed out as aggressive? i wouldnt say AGGRESSIVE per se but the tone is definitely different to your tone last game. The tone is hard and defensive. pretty much right from the start.  A couple of lizs posts come across that way too.

 

 

2. Doc Cassiday (cass) -  slight town, not enough gifs to imitate zander.

 

6. Darthe Wade (Darthe) town

 

8. Hallia Cogburn (Hallia)  nully mc jellybean

 

9. Eldrick the Kid (Eldrick4221) will discuss later - mixed emotions.

 

10. Cuthroat Jesse (Cuth)  town

 

13. Dice - Lone Stranger (dicetosser1) re read, not as strong of a town as before. but town

 

15. Miss Kizzy Clov (MrsClov and Lizabeth) am voting - obvious. have a few thoughts in my head.

 

16. Crushlove the Bacon Bandit (The Crusher) nully mc null face

 

So considering I havent been here and so cant have done anything to change ure read why the change?

[Eldrick4221]

 

Although now that I think about it, his going out of the way to point out that "he was already planning to vote" to dissuade the omgus concept is weird.

I posted a post saw liz had just posted and voted me so i made it clear because it was going to be my next post no matter what.

But why point it out? Why not just give reason and vote?

[Eldrick4221]

okay i'm off for the night

 

seph i'd like you to take your vote off of lizaclov if you don't mind for now

 

looking forward to seeing where we're at in the morning and a pleasant evening/night/day/morning to everyone

[unvote] sounds good. night

@Cuth I'm curious why you want him to Unvote, but not me. I'm curious why you unvoted and want unvotes in the first place

 

@Seph I'm curious why you complied.

[seph]

 

Although now that I think about it, his going out of the way to point out that "he was already planning to vote" to dissuade the omgus concept is weird.

 

I posted a post  saw liz had just posted and voted me so i made it clear because it was going to be my next post no matter what.

 

 

@Dice

 

Why me for Tonto, Johnny Depp or otherwise?

 

 

@SEPHHHHHHHHH!!!!

 

Howdy, Stranger!

 

Penny for your thoughts?

 

*offers up her own seat at the bar*

 

a) kinda hard to have Tonto ride along besides me if he is in a different country isnt it??

 

b) ive liked ure game so far am leaning town on u (which probably means ure scum)

 

c) if it turns out you ARE scum?? its much easier to push you off ure horese if ure next to me

 

d) cause it was fun.

 

 

seph, on 12 Feb 2017 - 2:38 PM, said:

 

pretty sure i want to just lock dice in as town

 

 

The padawan is becoming a master. i like it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its still a contradiction  mrsclov   sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

No,  you're making it a contradiction, most likely because it involves you. It was an "Oh yeah, I'm in a hydra" moment. I didn't know about the vote on you until after the vote was placed and we talked it out. So that's when she mentioned conferring with me on Darthe. We fill the same spot, and that's not something either of us are used to doing. It is just a result of us trying to figure out how to hydra for the first time, but you're making it into something else.

Bold:

So order of hydra events:

 

- Vote Dice

- Discuss Dice vote

- Discuss conferring on Darthe ?

 

Not necessarily just Darthe just hey let's discuss before we vote, but otherwise you are correct. As you can see from our vote, we agreed to keep it on Dice.

 

Either one can answer this but I don't remember seeing it. Why did you all decide to keep your vote on dice after the joke vote? was it just the omgus reason? I don't think liz ever shared her conclusion.

 

 

 

Oh good grief you all are impatient. We were trying to figure out how he'd react since he's one of the few players we've both played with and trying to get a read that way. He seemed to only be staying on the topic of Liz and I voting for him to the point where it's been beaten like a rug. I wanted to see if he'd address other topics or not and how other people would respond. He hasn't been back in the thread as far as I know since I explained we're trying to get used to being a hydra. I want to see his reaction to this. 

 

 

red   interesting. How many posts did i actually make about you two? 3? maybe 4? thats staying on you to the point of being beaten like a rug is it? Most of the pressure you have had   like 90% of it has come from people OTHER THEN ME. I started it yes but im not the one thats been carrying it on as i wasnt here. So that red line comes across badly to me as it seems you are trying to make me look bad for something i didnt do.

 

As for looking at others?? there wasnt a lot of people active when i voted to look at and im watching people but if you think thats gonna get my focus off you then ure sadly mistaken.

I tend to see something grab it and stick to it. 

 

there have been some responses from you two that i dont like. That post darthe pointed out as aggressive? i wouldnt say AGGRESSIVE per se but the tone is definitely different to your tone last game. The tone is hard and defensive. pretty much right from the start.  A couple of lizs posts come across that way too.

 

 

2. Doc Cassiday (cass) -  slight town, not enough gifs to imitate zander.

 

6. Darthe Wade (Darthe) town

 

8. Hallia Cogburn (Hallia)  nully mc jellybean

 

9. Eldrick the Kid (Eldrick4221) will discuss later - mixed emotions.

 

10. Cuthroat Jesse (Cuth)  town

 

13. Dice - Lone Stranger (dicetosser1) re read, not as strong of a town as before. but town

 

15. Miss Kizzy Clov (MrsClov and Lizabeth) am voting - obvious. have a few thoughts in my head.

 

16. Crushlove the Bacon Bandit (The Crusher) nully mc null face

 

So considering I havent been here and so cant have done anything to change ure read why the change?

 

even though I liked them, I want more posts before i put you on a green read.

[dicetosser1]

 

 

Although now that I think about it, his going out of the way to point out that "he was already planning to vote" to dissuade the omgus concept is weird.

I posted a post saw liz had just posted and voted me so i made it clear because it was going to be my next post no matter what.

But why point it out? Why not just give reason and vote?

 

 

BECAUSE she had voted and it was liable to be called omgus when it wasnt

[Eldrick4221]

Because she said to stop focusing on her just doesn't feel like a good enough reason.

[dicetosser1]

fair enuff seph

 

btw  the Bands THAT way  points

[seph]

@eld because I wanted to lol. the point of the vote was to apply pressure. I wanted to see where the train went but he already voted. It will be interesting to see where the thread goes is all.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

Although now that I think about it, his going out of the way to point out that "he was already planning to vote" to dissuade the omgus concept is weird.

I posted a post saw liz had just posted and voted me so i made it clear because it was going to be my next post no matter what.

But why point it out? Why not just give reason and vote?

BECAUSE she had voted and it was liable to be called omgus when it wasnt

And it was anyway. And it would probably have either way.

 

Also, why do you care?

[Eldrick4221]

@eld because I wanted to lol. the point of the vote was to apply pressure. I wanted to see where the train went but he already voted. It will be interesting to see where the thread goes is all.

So you don't think the slot is scum?

[seph]

 

@eld because I wanted to lol. the point of the vote was to apply pressure. I wanted to see where the train went but he already voted. It will be interesting to see where the thread goes is all.

So you don't think the slot is scum?

 

All you need to know is that I think that slot is the best option to lynch atm.  my guess is he didn't want a speed lynch. regardless i trust cuth so why not.

[MrsClov]

Alright, read through some of the earlier pages. I'll go back to the other pages later, but right now I'm tired and feel like they'll just frustrate me all over again. These are tentative and could change. Forewarning, I do tend to base some reads regarding how people interact with me. I'll try to fill in some pieces that Liz and I have talked about. I'm still piecing everything together so this is just general thoughts and not so much town/null/scum reads. I'll try to include some post #'s for reference. Also, for those of you who haven't played with me I'm really big on interactions and look into it a lot.

 

1. DPR- He voted for Eldrick on post #91 because he felt like Eld was wound up. At first, I kind of brushed it off as Eldrick being Eldrick but on my re-read post #143 where DPR explained how Eldrick's post seemed kind of lawyery and from what I gather wasn't sure if Eldrick was actually curious or trying to pretend to be curious. This is more of a future game thought for me, so it doesn't really say anything definitively about either of their alignments but it is something I'd like to come back to later. 

 

2. Cass- I feel hesitantly okay about Cass. I say this because I like the questions she's asking, but at the same time Liz and I have discussed how she's been scum a lot so has probably gotten really good at it. Another thing we noted was that the questions didn't really seem like they were leading anywhere. I was somewhat questioning how much she was asking about Eldrick, but on reread it wasn't nearly as much as I thought it was. 

 

3. Sooh- ????? Jokey/greeting posts. If she's send something of context regarding the game I've missed it. Willing to give her a pass because of her birthday. 

 

4. Kronos- Joke voted Hallia, and liked Eldrick's points on Liz blaming Cass as suspicious and thinks that Darthe was just trying to get a discussion going. I don't really have anything to go off of from that. 

 

5. Not Bob- ??????????

 

6. Darthe- Ugh. I really don't like that he claimed Vigilante D1 after he just did it as scum in a basic game. I get what Eldrick is saying about it being different because this is a closed setup, but it still really bugs me. I'm not saying he's scum for it, just something to be cautious of. Obviously I'm bias on this one, but I really don't like how he's coming at me and Liz. It feels forced. Liz had made the comment to me that she thinks he's just toying with us, and I agree. I think he sees us as low-hanging fruit and thinks it'd just be amusing to have us lynched. 

 

7. Wildfire????? 

 

8. Hallia- I think it was incredibly weird how her first? post was to address Darthe's claim. This is notable for me because she was his scum partner in the game he just did it as. It kind of made me cringe.  That being said, she hasn't really posted enough for me to get a good or bad feel. I do feel like I'll be able to read her fairly easily, eventually.

 

9. Eldrick- Originally I didn't realize that he was the one that kind of started going after Liz and I didn't find it note worthy until post #144. He was discussing Liz and I talking about voting Darthe and then voting Dice. First of all Liz jokingly talked about lynching Dice in the first couple of pages, well before the vote. Anyways, what struck me as odd was he talked about how it could be something or it could not be and how he did it to Sooh (I assume he meant in SOoh's game?). What I don't like about this comment is that he was kind of crucifying us for it then admitted he's done it. It felt really hypocritical to me. He's voted us, unvoted, and then voted us again. I had said that I was getting a townie vibe from him because of last game, but now I'm questioning that. Now I'm putting pieces together and thinking about DPR's post I mentioned previously, and how Eldrick keeps saying he's not remembering things when people question him about things he's said. Back  peddling on the original townie vibe a bit here. 

 

10. Cuth- Despite how it probably seems from how he and Liz were goign back and forth, I actually have a lot of respect for Cuth right now. He stuck to his guns, answered questions in his own way, and gave why's. I like why's. But I really appreciate he taking the time to talk with me about where Liz and I are coming from and what we're trying to accomplish. I think he is really trying to be open minded about it all.

 

11. Seph- I get what he's saying about needing to build case, and I appreciate it. I appreciate that while he took the time to explain why he thinks were scum he also took the time to explain what could maybe move us to town in his eyes. Liz had said she really didn't know how to read him. Gut tells me he wouldn't take the time to go out of his way and explain if he was scum (this is more in a general scum sense and not him specifically). I think scum would just string us up with out backing off, explaining what he needs from us, and then unvoting.

12. Tinker?????????????

 

13. Dice- A lot of Liz and I's talks about him have been about how he's really reactive if someone votes him and how it's not necessarily alignment indicative. So even though the original vote was a joke, What really bothered Liz was the timing of him voting us. But that's been beaten like a dirty rug, so I honestly just want to step back from it for a while.

14. Spoof. I appreciated that he was forthcoming about how he takes time to develop reads and said he's pretty deliberate with his play. Doesn't really tell me much, but I can appreciate the play style.

 

16. Crush- Ugh I think there was something about Bacon and tickling Eldrick. That's about all I got. 

[MrsClov]

Because she said to stop focusing on her just doesn't feel like a good enough reason.

 

Yes, how dare someone give a player a bit of courtesy when all they want to do is explain. 

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

@eld because I wanted to lol. the point of the vote was to apply pressure. I wanted to see where the train went but he already voted. It will be interesting to see where the thread goes is all.

So you don't think the slot is scum?

All you need to know is that I think that slot is the best option to lynch atm. my guess is he didn't want a speed lynch. regardless i trust cuth so why not.

That is a really weird answer.

 

If you are town and want the slot lynched, it's reasonable to assume you think the slot is scum.

 

But that's not what you said. Why the elusive answer?

[dicetosser1]

 

 

 

 

Although now that I think about it, his going out of the way to point out that "he was already planning to vote" to dissuade the omgus concept is weird.

I posted a post saw liz had just posted and voted me so i made it clear because it was going to be my next post no matter what.

But why point it out? Why not just give reason and vote?

BECAUSE she had voted and it was liable to be called omgus when it wasnt

And it was anyway. And it would probably have either way.

 

Also, why do you care?

 

 

because i didnt want to waste time with the argument