Wow, they are supposed to be characters from the book? Never would have guessed, really.

I don't know if it's a simple question, but maybe someone can answer it.

Can someone point me to a good source, or tell me what happens in the end of the Eye of the World (from the point of meeting the forsaken till the travel back), and why that happens? It may be just me, but even after like 5 rereads I still don't understand, it's all too confusing.

These chapters: Against the Shadows, There is Neither Beginning or End

He was not shielded from the source. He was being controlled by the a'dam, but that is NOT a shield (as he could cast and all that, just not decide what).

Oh, and the time line issues did not bother me. I got it. Maybe because I refused to be bothered by it, but it flowed nicely for me despite a tiny bit of clumsiness with Tam seeming to be in two places at once.

which is not even a problem (and was to be expected after the last book) while there seem to be huge timeline problems everywhere :)

I'd still say the timeline is a mess, or looks a bit forced in the least.

When did Mat Travel to Caemlyin with Verin?

What was he doing there for so long?

What's up with the Wise Ones not being able to find Perrin's group before VoG? It shouldn't be too hard, with dreamers available.

What was Perrin doing all those days after Rand's ultimatum? What was Rand doing? He did exactly nothing for like 20 days?

Where the hell is Aviendha? She should be back loooooooooooooong since. Actually, she should be back several days before VoG.

Like nothing happening at the Black Tower for several books AND at least 60+ days?

Where is Logain?

As for Aviendha's visions, they are very odd. All those channelers who should live 300-600 years and no one is alive after 17 years? That is not very easy to believe. The timeline there seems to be a mess.

How come the Rebel Aes Sedai do not use their far superior knowledge of the power to spy, steal, kidnap, even take the tower? Is there any excuse of that?

They have:

- traveling

- can invert there weaves

- can hide their ability to channel

and much more, I suppose - but only with those three they can do whatever they wish to. Most of the things even repeatedly.

Taking Elaida, Taking the ter'angreal/angreal stash, Spy on anything they wish, Contact the ferrets, Use them for whatever they want to, Go in and take any amount of sisters prisoner.

No. They have no knowledge of the exact location of the Warder. And the same with the beacon. so she could have felt they were roughly in the same direction, but no indication of where exactly they were one from the other. She could guess, but probably not more than that.

Let's see.

1) Lan is far to the south for several days.

2) Then in the morning, he Travels far to the west (a thing sure to be picked up, see Elayne whose Warder Travels even more).

3) Shortly after his moving, a huge amount of Saidar is being channeled. Guess what. In the same direction.

4) The channeling continues for all day. Lan is in the same direction, never moving.

5) The channeling is finished. Shortly after, Lan Travels far to the east.

It stretches credulity that she wouldn't make the connection. She might be masking the bond, but I believe she is concerned of him, his health, his whereabouts and I doubt she would do that.

Shouldn't Myrelle know that Lan was there at the Cleansing? (the impossibly strong beacon of saidar they experienced)

He never seems to consider Natael, at least, not really. I wonder whom he thought Lanfear would be posing as, however. He can't possibly be considering Isendre, or can he?

Not Lanfear/Asmodean, Natael/Keloeg. Kadere didn't know they were Forsaken, he thought they were merely powerful darkfriends. That was what he was trying to sell.

Yes, that's what I was suggesting, even though I wasn't clear. Funny, how blind Rand was in some ways :)

IN TSR, Kadere keeps hinting to Rand that he has information to sell. It made me wonder. Did he plan to sell Lanfear/Asmodean's identity to him?

I'm not sure belief couldn't refer to the Whitecloaks - they are the ultimate dogmatic ideological society. And, with Galad at the helm, they will back Rand 150%. Once Galad realises Rand is def going to fight the DO. Cos it's the right thing to do. And, I don't think he would hold any inherent problem with fighting alongside damane.

 

Of course it could be a very simple, straightforward, totally obvious thing to say, too... How helpful are chaos and apathy?

Yup. Where I'm coming from is the beginning of TDR where it is hinted that Tuatha'an = belief give strength. Among other interesting things as Perrin saying 'there must be another way'.

Order and belief give strength.

The Seanchan and the Tuatha'an? Is it that simple? But how?

TGH - Chapter 37 - What Might Be

The stories we hear seem to indicate that Rand's progress has direct influence over how the dark one's prison's weakening, right? Since in some stories he lives lots of YEARS more.

The arrow pointing left should indicate a horizontal movement (through the worlds) and backwards(no idea what that means) and something strange to do with time. Still, it might be a safe bet that the first world they visit is the closest and they're getting farther and farther for a while?

Any speculation on these? I mean a topic or articles or something worth reading?

Do they have grey hair and unlined face? Who?

I always imagined slowing does NOT show at all. The effect is the person aging slower, but he/she just looks normal. And much younger. The Kin, the Windfinders, even the Wise Ones show that. Did I miss something?

TGH, Chapter 28 (New Thread in the Pattern):

Urien speaks of Verin having the 'look' of Wise Ones. We know that Wise Ones are not bound so they don't have the ageless look. Is this a mistake, or is there something else?

BTW: Verin - How could she catch the hunters (Ingtar's party) with one horse?

Yea I can understand that. Moiraine has no excuse not to realize who Fain is, however.

Still TGH:

Do men feel women channeling even with ability hidden / inverted waves? Because Rand never seems to notice Selene does (I mean he does not feel the shiver/prickle, whatever), even though she must have healed him. When he does wake up to Selene searching his saddlebags, he might have felt it. But isn't it odd that's the only time he did?

The Great Hunt,

Chapter 3 (Friends and Enemies)

"They are coming for me, and they're coming for you. Mordeth knows more than all of you."

Rand knows who Mordeth is. How could he miss that?

Chapter 22 (Watchers)

What answer did Moiraine find?

Simple question: Why don't the Forsaken go after Mat and Perrin personally?  We've heard so often how they demolished whole cities in the AOL and are so greatly feared.  Why then don't they just Travel (they know where Mat and Perrin are), fireball away and split?  What are they afraid of?

Ta'veren are dangerous, it would be very risky already because of that + they don't know (or even worse: they DO know) what Mat/Perrin have up their sleeves.

Forsaken are just channelers, no superhuman. They are more experienced, yes, but any group of 3+ decent channelers would handle them or stop them long enough to die to weapons.

Mat has a medallion that stops direct weaves which means it's a very bad idea to attack him directly.

Perrin has keen senses, is extremely fast and dangerous in battle, has an army and adept guards.

Simple question? maybe not

 

LTT, in the EoTW prologue killed himself. Did he in fact use balefire to do so? If so, we have never before seen anything react to balefire such as the earth did in that moment. We witnessed Rand blowing a fortress away with CK fueled bf, and it disappeared, no ground upheaval of any kind. Also, given the nature of balefire, this brings up the 'you shoot yourself in the foot with it, what happens?' question, obviously this is the prime example. He obviously died, but wouldn't it negate a few of his actions? IE creating dragonmount, maybe even killing his wifey. (depending on how far in the past that was)

 

I don't know but it's been bugging me.

He overdrew the power, that's all. No balefire.

Triangulation?  Lol are AS GPS satellites now?

What GPS satellites? Just travel, check, travel. Logain did manage to find Rand very fast. I don't think it's hard to figure out how to catch them or require any specific knowledge.

You're trying to bend the details of the story around your desire to read something into the situation that's not there.

Quite the opposite. I'm trying VERY VERY hard to buy the story. I'd really love someone to post how it all makes sense, some plausible explanation.

Remember, it takes several days for the raken to get home.

There's a war going on inside a building, yeah sure suddenly import a large number of even more confused people right into the middle of it sounds like a recipe for success.

Sure it does make sense, besides, they don't have to travel INTO the building.

Wake up the rebel Aes Sedai, explain what's going on, organize a counterattack. Don't take the much time. She's the Amyrlin for them.

Except for the fact that a lot of them were on Raken, flying. It's a little hard to make a gateway to catch someone who is flying through the air.

Why would that be? They can use triangulation to find them if just one single warder has her Aes Sedai captured. They could find them anyway.

And the fact that only a bare handful of Aes Sedai in the Tower even know how to Travel.  Not to mention they have to learn the area even if enough Aes Sedai could be taught the Weave or had the strength. I don't think we've ever seen anyone chase a moving target using Gateways.

ALL the rebels know travelling and they have sa'angreals, angreals and linking which the Seanchan do NOT have. They - Egwene at least - know how to fight them rakens AND the seanchan effectively and she also knows it's a raid and that they can easily subdue them.

Not much about tis attack makes sense anyway. Egwene is acting stupid as hell. Why not bring an army of rebel aes sedai inside to kill all the invaders, she has travelling and an angreal stash.

How on earth can she believe Elaida is still in power after the attack when she KNOWS the seanchan have cleaned the upper levels not to mention what happened in the raid itself? How could she even THINK about attacking the tower when she has won the fight vs Elaida AND she is supposed to know that. She is not thinking straight. None in the rebel camnp do, actually.

Well, the whole rebel army communication system sucks. I mean they can't react to threats like this any fast as they have no Aes Sedai close to Gareth Bryne who CAN travel. Come on...

why didnt the aes sedai use travelling to ensure that the raiding party of the seanchans does not manage to get back to Ebou Dar? Surely there were warders who could locate their "stolen" aes sedais.

I think this - and several things about the Seanchan raid - look like a huge plothole, actually.

1) What happens when he enters the columns? Rand would feel nothing strange?

2) She would travel to 6 days run from Rhuidean (if I remember correctly) and it would be very strange if she did not travel back right from Rhuidean. So 15 days max should be enough. Hence, something must be going on.