Let's not change this in an Egwene hate thread.

WTF?! That was uncalled for.

An enormous sphere made of the finest crystal on a dark hilltop. It sparkles in the light of twenty-three enormous stars. There are cracks in it and it is help together by ropes. Rand walks up with a woodsman axe and chops the ropes. The sphere breaks apart, falling to pieces and Rand shakes his head.

 

Anyone have any idea of the "twenty-three enormous stars", in Egwene's dream of Rand breaking the seals? Aiel clans plus nations of the world? 11 Clans. 4 Borderlands. 5 under Rand; Arad Doman, Andor, Cairhein, Tear and Illian. 3 Seanchan control; Altara, Amadicia and Tarabon. Then Ghealdan. That's 24 total without counting Murandy if indeed it is under Demandred.

 

Thoughts?

The Aiel, probably. Someone said their council has 23 members.

I think it has nothing to do with the seals or the dark one's prison. Egwene is wrong, as usual.

I thought Mazrim Taim's identity was really obvious, but everyone on this site seems convinced otherwise. I've read the books more than once, but sometimes I do a lot of my reading post ambien, so I'm wondering if I've missed something in the books or if it was just in an interview I never read. I thought he was one of the forsaken or Moridin (I haven't read them in a while, and I get kind of confused with the forsaken because I get a little bored with them, but whichever one was seen in the red and black room). Can someone please tell me what I'm missing?

Moridin is one of the Forsaken (Ishamael revived).

Some have a theory that he is Taim (whatever that means), despite that it seems impossible (timing of Taim's appearance, Rand's interactions with him and Kisman's POV).

I think that Moridin's identity is obvious. He is Moridin.

Goldstar, I've never heard of any such thing.

I don't think it does. It would be very strange indeed. Wouldn't make sense in the WoT world setting.

Now if you balefire the weaver, that's a different story.

Sharaman, your example is not very good. I can see what you're getting at, but the time to run 100m is not a linear function by nature.

s = v*t, or t = (s/v)

You may argue that v (your average speed) is linear (and distributed on a normal scale), but t could never be.

That may be so, but it only means that 13 in the tower are much stronger than any lone man which is not surprising. What abou Rand with a strong angreal, however?

Can we be sure about that? It might have worked.

Why did Bashere try to kill Rand in the beginning of LoC?

Not this one at all.

I know you said you don't have the link, but could you explain basically why and how Graendal killed Asmodean, as you see it?

I would if I could, but I forgot it, sorry. :(

I never really cared. Read it once, liked it, and moved on.

Questions:

1) In Winter's Heart and/or Crossroads of Twilight Elayne is thinking about the Kin and that only like a dozen are strong enough to travel. How does that make sense? Surely they can travel when linked and there are hundreds of them. It doesn't seem plausible that a) they never think about that or b) they aren't taught linking (that second is plain impossible too as some were present when using the bowl) c) Egwene never told them

2) Can someone explain why Elayne takes weeks to travel to Caemlyn when she could just Travel there instead (like when she returns from the meeting with the borderlanders)

3) They send Kin back to Seanchan controlled lands to rescue Kin and channelers. Are they taught to travel, inverting and masking their ability to channel?

4) Why doesn't Elayne recruit her houses' forces right at the start (with travelling), instead of waiting long enough for them to start to get bogged down in the snows and cut out, then start visiting the country for childs and old men?

5) Why does Elayne try to transport Naean and Elenia by foot when they could just take them out with gateways. She send a messenger via gateway, how hard would it be to keep that gateway open?

Do we have proof that 13 women linked can always shield a man, or is it just something Aes Sedai believe? (It is just logical that they have to believe so, because that's the best they can do without a man)

There is a very good writing out there on why and how Graendal killed Asmlodean. I don't have the link myself, but it's really convincing.

I think this is what you're talking about:

 

http://encyclopaedia-wot.org/main/theories.html

 

And I agree, it's very convincing.

Not this one at all.

There is a very good writing out there on why and how Graendal killed Asmlodean. I don't have the link myself, but it's really convincing.

Was it ever confirmed that Halima didn't compel Egwene at all? I think all we were told that she did 24/7 on the Oath on her own.

 

It got me thinking. Obviously, Halima made her view her in a better light (made her dismiss anything bad about her).

What else? I'm doing a reread and to me it seems quite certain that Egwene was influenced to the worse. On Rand, for example.

 

Sorry, csarmi, I don't quite follow - who are the 'her's here? (BTW, I agree with you )

Halima made Egwene view her (Halima) in a better light (made Egwene dismiss anything bad about her).

Was it ever confirmed that Halima didn't compel Egwene at all? I think all we were told that she did 24/7 on the Oath on her own.

It got me thinking. Obviously, Halima made her view her in a better light (made her dismiss anything bad about her).

What else? I'm doing a reread and to me it seems quite certain that Egwene was influenced to the worse. On Rand, for example.

We know the sa'angreal itself melted too. See KoD,Ch22.

It melted when Rand + Nynaeve cleansed the source (and that cause the Amayar to mass-suicide).

Everything Cadsuane does she does for herself. Not for Rand, not for the WT, not for the world or the light.

She does it to improve her own image as a legendary Aes Sedai. Rand's supose to be her grand accomplishment. She probably wants her own name to replace Rands in the historybooks. To be remembered as the one behind the DO's defeat and Rand was only a tool she used.

Unless you claim her to be a darkfriend (or free of the three oaths), you can't mean that. She tells Rand her intentions straight out.

Well if she can't spot Rand while moving, she's not using them very well.

When Rand roams the palace in Cairhien after the attack, Cadsuane passes him by. Interesting. Her ter'angreals should tell her that Rand is around. Do you think this is an erro?

Well, not spending the days "hunting" (while in truth visiting Berelain's country house) would have helped. Along with some quite different methods of handling the situation, which are 'evident' to Faile, but of course not to Perrin, who is not used to such behaviour. Think how it looks in the eyes of the other folk. This whole issue. This makes Faile disappointed.

Faile also expects Perrin to raise his voice with her, stans up and sometimes put her into her place (and Perrin should guess when!), while not giving that kind of attention to others.

Now he goes and shouts with Berelain instead. So he honors Berelain, but not her. This makes Faile hurt and somewhat jealous (and she's already jealous by default).

Some books later a Faile's PoV explains what it is that Perrin's doing well then.

What do people from Tar Valon call themselves? People from Tear for example are Tairens, but I don't think I've ever seen a name for someone from Tar Valon.

They don't need name for that. They live in the City.

Berelain.

The fact that Perrin's handling the situation in the wrong way. Entirely wrong.

sorry, doublepost.

hmm

Yes, we've learned what the BUT was. It was a disappointment for me, but it does have a big impact.