#7 on the originals list for today’s report. 538 million minutes, compared to 515m for season 2. next week week the show has a real chance to exceed viewership for season 1 which was at 537m for the same period. That would be a very impressive feat if it can be done.

I still need to rewatch this, but how did Moiraine know that Suian died? They weren’t bonded were they? another thing I noticed was the show didn’t use the full intro sequence in episode 8 unlike season 2 episode 8.

pretty great episode. My only complaint is that they didn’t have enough time to do everything properly. Nynaeve’s block felt scene especially rushed. The white tower coup also felt rushed Matt,s ashrandei was also briefly showed holding up his rope. I wish the show had showed it a bit more, because now they will have to explain where it came from later. It appears that Moiraine is going to be around for a while. The show is probably afraid to kill off their biggest star so soon.. I’m now thinking that Moiraine is going to take the role of Cadsaune. There will be no Cadsaune in this show if it gets renewed. it will be amazing if it is Red Eagle that is the entity holding up the show from getting renewed.

RJ sure didn’t make good decisions when it comes to licensing his IP. It is infuriating that Red Eagle is still involved in this whole process. I wonder if their greed is also keeping us from getting any WOT merchandise

I liked how it didn't even look like Rand was trying to kill Sammael. If it was really that easy for him, does he even need Sammael as a teacher? Loved the Hills of tanchico. i actually like the show version of tanchico better the book version. Whenever i re-read the books i am always rushing through that section with a little boredom. it is funny to me that i like Elayne's singing better than thom's. i never really liked his singing from the first season. I'm loving how all the Forsaken and black ajah are scheming against each other and killing each other. Amazing. For those that criticize Matt for finding the bracelet that easily-- this is what a ta'veren does. The show didn't explain it that well, but thom did mention how Rand and Matt were tugging at the pattern. Pretty great episode overall and getting me pumped for the season finale! it looks like episode 7 will be purely two rivers.

rand will confront rand. when rand is mad she will be like-- do you like my gift? we will see Sammael chained and ready to train Rand. i'm pretty sure sammael will feature alot in season 4 if Amazon doesn't cancel the show. the question to me is if they off Sammael/Asmodean amalgamate in season 3 or in season 4. if season 3 ends with a 'you? no!' moment it would be the best cliffhanger ever. please give us that fan service rafe. I will take also take that cliffhanger in season 4 as well, even if it as an episode ending cliffhanger.

Not sure if anyone in this thread mentioned this yet, but i rewatched e5 again and was just noticed that the white sister was Alviarin. Between Gitara, Verin, Sheriam, and Alviarin still being at the tower there were definitely way more than the 4 black ajah hearts that Liandrin knew about. Of course, we don't know who is black ajah yet on this show. Also on Aes Sedai talk, almost all the Ajahs have been explained now except the Grey Ajah. Alviarin was first main white that we saw (I think) I don't think we have had much interaction with the Greys yet. They don't get a lot of love in the books either, but I predict we will have a Grey encounter sooner or later.

Ebou Dar was mentioned. i can't remember if they mentioned it before. will be interesting to see if that city comes into play in future seasons.

I enjoyed this episode, and am really enjoying seaon thus far. That said there were a few things that felt off to me about episode 5. i'll give it an 8 overall. Likes: 1. Elaida-- i was surprised by how vicious she was. I had to got back and look at the 3 Oaths to make sure she didn't break one. But Aes Sedai are indeed allowed to kill known black ajah without being threatened first. Savage, she is going to be on a warpath. 'River trash' is my new favorite insult. 2. Eamon Valda appears to have a device to find the Aes Sedai. I wonder why they won't show on screen yet. 3. Aviendha's aversion to being around Rand. I wonder how much this has to do with her visions she had in the rings. It was also cool to see her in the dream with Elayne on Seafolk boat. 4. Lan comforting Moiraine by asking her if she if she knows if she is going to die today. This seems like the perfect thing for a warrior to say. 5. Faile's fighting style. I thought it was badass. But it is also annoying to compare how effective she is versus a grey man. 6. Sisterwives! 7. Hopper and Perrin. Perrin's inner feels towards Faile being shown in his dream. I think the show missed an opportunity to show how well Perrin sees in the dark and fog. Dislikes: 1. Moiraine channeling with Sakaren. This is just a stupid Forsaken beacon and will take away from what happens when Rand and Nynaeve have their taint cleansing scene. 2. Min having a picture of Matt being hanged. This is just a lazy way to accelerate the plot. There is indication that Min draws her visions. This is just a minor dislike as I understand why they have to do this stuff for TV adaptions. 3. Having a seafolk scene with no deal being shown. This is one of the areas where the show really needs more time. Seeing a deal being made with the Seafolk before the ship passage would really convey their culture. 4. Incompetent grey men. How many times can they stab someone without their victim dying. This is getting stupid at this point. 5. Mary Sue Egwene. I love Egwene, but I don't want her to be a master of Tel'aran'rhiod in 1 scene. I really hope she gets humbled like a little schoolgirl in the next episode by the Wise Ones 6. Maxsim leaving Alanna right before he knows she is going into battle. A warder wouldn't do this. I know it was a plot device, but still...

6% from an outside source is probably not a conclusive enough data source, and could easily fall into the statistical noise category. I would be much more worried if I saw 20% drop or something substantial. only Prime has the official numbers so it will be interesting to see if they make any press release. This press release said that Reacher season 3 include viewership by 0.5% from season 2 and has the most viewers of any return season on Amazon. https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/reacher-season-3-ratings-1236336510/Wheel of time could easily show an increase, like Reacher, once the final numbers are tallied. If Amazon doesn't make a PR in the first month though, it will probably mean things aren't doing so great.

i stand corrected on the wise ones going to rhuidean twice, haven't read the books since Sanderson finished them up over a decade ago. I agree about the Bore. I mean we pretty much have to see Shayol Ghul at some point, right? I can understand why they didn't want to show it so soon to avoid comparisons to LOTR. I'm also curious to see if we will get a Shaidar Haran. It seems like we might since they have already talked about Naeblis and the true power now. A visit to Shayol Ghul would be pretty epic though. I truly can't wait.

tried to reply to this thread without reading anyone else's replies first. a few thoughts; 1. pretty much perfect episode. single best adapted episode directly from the books 2. this is one of the few wheel of time episodes with no cold open 3. absolutely loved all the book references about Tam being a blademaster, the flame and the void, Laman's pride and the Aiel war, and the whole chain of events that took place to connect Moiraine and Rand 4. the only thing that kind of annoyed me was Aviendha going to Rhuidean so early. This means we won't get the excellent book scene of Aviendha finally stepping up and acknowleding herself as a Wise One. this also means no Nakomi. 5. No separate Choedan Kal and Callandor--- this is all fine, but I really hope we still get Rand's breakdown scene on dragonmount where he break's the male Choedan Kal. 6. all of Aiel scenes were fantastic, but I don't think they gave the viewer a very good scale of how many Jenn Aiel were there.

this show has the spirit of matt cauthon correct, but i think they need to do a better job at some of the things they are saying. matt would never boast about having other man's memories. Matt was an inherently untrusting person, even more so after he touched the dagger. Matt wouldn't boast of being the horn-blower, having special abilities, or even tell Aes Sedai to help heal him. He wouldn't even let Moiraine try to help him with this 'headaches' at Rhuidean. What they are doing is funny, but it also comes at the cost of a few of Matt's key personality traits. there are other ways to show that he is a rogue and a gambler. Matt didn't need to brag to girls about being the horn blower because he already had dozens of lifetimes encoded in his head. He could already woo women with his charm and all his dances. Plus, I'm sure they are holding off on his lucky, but they haven't really delved into his special gambling abilities yet.

How does that work? I kept wondering how he does the compulsion in an instant without speaking or communicating in any visible way. not sure if it worked like that in the books, at least that wasn't my impression from the books

watched the first 3 episodes. This season is great so far-- I can't imagine why book readers would have too many issues with what has been shown so far. Shoreh Aghadashloo has been one of my favorite actresses since the expanse-- I absolutely cannot wait for her to go into full boss mode. She is great at that and I expect her performance to attract some attention. I am very curious why she has those tremors-- some kind of PTSD from visions maybe? It was a little odd to see Gawyn and Galad getting some action with the novice/accepted already. They are both the same cocky personality so far. I am interested to see them differentiate into the Gawyn and Galad's we know from the books. The only thing I didn't really like so far is that the show is putting too much suspicion on Verin already. Verin taking over Sheriam's role for discovering the grey man is a little risky as we don't want the endpoint spoiled too early. Finally, i agree with John from wotup that amazon would be morons to cancel this show. I haven't seen the whole season like John, but this show is already better than almost all of Amazon's other sci-fi/fantasy show. definitely enjoying more than the Witcher and Rings of Power now. Not sure if it is on par with The Boyz or Dance of Dragons yet, but I think it is definitely getting there. After the first season, I definitely wouldn't have said that.