Hi Chiamac!
I’m super new to Dragonmount, so I looked for a recently-posted topic, and here we are!
Obviously, so happy that you discovered this series, etc. and some of your observations stood out to me, here are some thoughts in response:
(please assume good faith/intentions coming from me! I want vibrant debate, but also friends on this forum)
- I do (lovingly!) take issue with your comment “and although these books generally aren’t that deep…). Nuh-uh. They ARE generally that deep!
I promise you, I’m doing my 4th reading right now, and I am still finding new things, making new connections - things that happen or are mentioned in the earlier books, which you finally realize are foreshadowing/“setting the stage” after several more reads. It would be impossible to connect these things if you didn’t do re-reads. Unless you are a genius, imho. I won’t even go into the incredible character development or multiple Byzantine plots! The. Books. Are. Deep. 😊
the more you put in, the more you get out of this series.
- Ta’veren - ah. I know what you mean (I think) in that it seems EVERY one of the main characters who came out of the 2R could/should be Ta’veren. I’ve lamented it myself- why not Egwene or Nyaeve??
WHY NOT? 🧐
i don’t have the answer, just a theory that being Ta’veren is SO special, SO rare, that it normally wouldn’t apply to more than one in a generation. (Everyone who knows what it is comments repeatedly how crazy it is that there were three, and from the same village) That is what marks its exclusive status.
(There is not a lot of talk about other historical Ta’veren, other than Artur Paendrag and Lews Therin. I mean, there are names mentioned, but we don’t learn much about them.)
I also like to think that E and N actually didn’t need the pull of being Ta’veren to do what they wanted/had to do. They were 100% motivated ALL the time to keep going, and oh, they did. The boys M and P, however… their narratives are both filled with all their doubts, denial, hesitation, lack of motivation, frank efforts to sabotage the Pattern, and sullen reluctance to get going. Ta’veren was necessary to snap them into place whether they liked it or not. Poor Rand… he just accepted it in book 3 and sadly went on from there. (Although, happily, later he learns how to use it to his advantage…)
Mat and the horn… I realized that he is acknowledged/referred to as “Horn-blower”, but you see later that, actually, he loses that status in Rhuidian, when he technically dies and therefore The Horn is “reset” so to speak. No one around him (and definitely not he) realizes that for a while. So Mat shifts from horn-blower into his dual role as “the Gambler” and “the General”, which are intimately connected/complementary as it turns out.
ok, I’m typed out here for tonight but I really hope to hear back from you! 😄
Tai’shar Dragonmount
(hope I spelled everything correctly, otherwise, embarrassing)