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  1. Always fun to see someone arguing against the law of noncontradiction. Syllogism is not subjective.
  2. My argument is simply that nobody can sensibly make the argument that certain elements had to be cut from the IP, whether they be storylines, characters, etc. because of time/episode limitations whilst simultaneously defending storylines, characters, etc. completely made up by Rafe Judkins. Those are two wholly incompatible arguments.
  3. It always reminds me of the Hardy Boys books I grew up on as a kid; every chapter ended with some mini-cliffhanger. That worked to keep kids engaged but it would be ridiculous in a competent adult novel.
  4. These are the kind of statements that make no sense to me. If they are finding it necessary to “prune” characters in order to fit this story into a more time-constrained medium, how do they justify that while at the same time giving inordinate amounts of time to secondary, tertiary, and even barely-mentioned characters like Maksim? People tried to use this same style of argument when they claimed certain story beats needed to be changed or eliminated in order to adapt the material to television but at the same time tried to justify made-up arcs like the whole wardrobe funeral episode or Moiraine’s journey that overwhelmed the beginning of season 2.
  5. The difference being that Ned was a strong leader, beloved character, seemingly the main character, etc., etc. Susan was horribly realized in the show. She wasn’t likable, she wasn’t all that politically astute, and her role hardly mattered. Talk an out pulling punches with major character deaths. They couldn’t have killed a more inconsequential “main” character as far as the show goes.
  6. No body, no crime. I think there are ways he can be rescued if the show wanted.
  7. I never considered compulsion, which would be plausible except didn’t Moggy kind of wipe that at the end of their talk? But otherwise, her just standing there was monumentally stupid.
  8. I’m sorry, but I still can’t get over Thom yelling “Hey!” before throwing his dagger at the black sister. /facepalm
  9. They distracted him…for some reason? Especially odd considering the cards were from Lanfear and the gray man from Moggy but they played as linked in the episode and the spell over Mat seemed to disparate when the gray man was killed. But anything for a few style points, huh?
  10. Call this the cynic in me, but since there seems to be some uncertainty about the renewal status of this show, is it possible that certain story arcs were crafted in a way that would present to the executives in charge of these decisions that the show needs more season? Take Moiraine/Lanfear, for example. We all thought they should have died this season, and we were all wrong. Could they have been kept around as a way to sell another season to the executives?
  11. Lanfear was gushing from the jugular, so I’d add that to the list of fake outs, even though it it obvious she didn’t die.
  12. Wheel of Time: Chekhov’s Armory Remember the Azor Ahai prophecy in Game of Thrones? If you do, well goo on you, because the showrunners certainly didn’t. If this show continues, and if it does so under a time crunch, I expect many things to go unresolved or changed to fit the narrative.
  13. I’m also not convinced that Moiraine means enough to Rand that we should spend story “killing” her and retrieving her. They tried to clean that up in this episode with the talk that Rand had with her, but I thought it was sketchy reasoning at best. I think I’m more in the camp that Moiraine would become Caddy, who is part protagonist, part mentor.
  14. I haven’t been following this conversation at all; I don’t know the argument. That said, given that the term “Finn” is usually used by fans to group both species, it follows that they use it in the show as shorthand for both. If there were only one Finn species in the show, it would make most sense for a character to refer to it by name.
  15. Yes, my point was more directed at the way it is written/introduced than that it happened. When you show - at least twice - a man being actively shielded and then just casually drop “tying it off” later, you need to connect that discrepancy. I think it’s a stretch for her to have “learned” it when she was shielded because she couldn’t see the weaves, but she could have said something like “I was shielded once. The weaves were tied off. I’ve been practicing. It’s a neat trick, isn’t it?” I’ve beaten this dead horse plenty, but my criticism was of the writing. One line, half a second of dialogue, works as connective tissue for two disparate handlings of an ability but they dropped the ball on it.
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