Apple also seems to have a pretty good production standard. Not every show I’ve seen on Apple has been my cup of tea but it was obvious that they were well-made.

Gotcha. I know absolutely nothing about it other then a headline that is was in the works.

I could be wrong, but I think I remember seeing that there is a WoT video game in the works. Now, if it is based on the show it may never see the light of day.

When the showrunner before the show even starts explicitly states his motivations for how he intends to use the story, his explicit stated intentions are a) fair game for discussion and a Ken’s through which to see his work and b) not a personal attack. You keep using the term personal attack and you clearly don’t know what that means. Critiquing a work - even vehemently - is not a personal attack. You double- and triple- down on saying any critique tied to Judkins’s handling of the source is a personal attack. You say that there is no reason the strengths and weaknesses of the show can’t be discussed but we have been doing that for three entire seasons and those of us with myriad complaints have been continually nay-sayed by a handful here and then called haters. Half the weakness of this show stems from the weakness of the writing but if we attack that, we’re suddenly haters and attacking everyone personally according to some of you.

I don’t have time to rewatch 3 seasons…

And this kind of stunted reading comprehension is why we live in a world today where every other person lives in a state of constant self-perceived victimhood and believes everything they see or hear is some kind of attack on them. Did I say I hate Rafe Judkins? I hated the product and I and many, many others clearly saw this as a work that didn’t understand the source material and at times didn’t even seem to know it beyond a Cliff’s Notes outline. The fact that we can’t call out a guy for saying “I love the book, and here’s everything I’m changing to better fit the way I think it should be” without white knights flying to his rescue and saying “why hate people?” shows such a lack of critical thinking.

You’re right. I love it for its characters, setting, and plot. Rafe loved it as a vehicle to tell his own story and hopefully become famous.

When you love something, you don’t fundamentally change it to conform to your vision; you embrace what (or who) it is. You don’t say “I like this thing, but I can improve it;” You don’t say, “I love this thing but we need to change it to fit with modern (read: my) worldviews.” Rafe “loved” this series for marketing reasons only and nothing anyone says can convince me otherwise because the product spoke for itself.

Always fun to see someone arguing against the law of noncontradiction. Syllogism is not subjective.

My argument is simply that nobody can sensibly make the argument that certain elements had to be cut from the IP, whether they be storylines, characters, etc. because of time/episode limitations whilst simultaneously defending storylines, characters, etc. completely made up by Rafe Judkins. Those are two wholly incompatible arguments.

It always reminds me of the Hardy Boys books I grew up on as a kid; every chapter ended with some mini-cliffhanger. That worked to keep kids engaged but it would be ridiculous in a competent adult novel.

These are the kind of statements that make no sense to me. If they are finding it necessary to “prune” characters in order to fit this story into a more time-constrained medium, how do they justify that while at the same time giving inordinate amounts of time to secondary, tertiary, and even barely-mentioned characters like Maksim? People tried to use this same style of argument when they claimed certain story beats needed to be changed or eliminated in order to adapt the material to television but at the same time tried to justify made-up arcs like the whole wardrobe funeral episode or Moiraine’s journey that overwhelmed the beginning of season 2.

The difference being that Ned was a strong leader, beloved character, seemingly the main character, etc., etc. Susan was horribly realized in the show. She wasn’t likable, she wasn’t all that politically astute, and her role hardly mattered. Talk an out pulling punches with major character deaths. They couldn’t have killed a more inconsequential “main” character as far as the show goes.

No body, no crime. I think there are ways he can be rescued if the show wanted.

I never considered compulsion, which would be plausible except didn’t Moggy kind of wipe that at the end of their talk? But otherwise, her just standing there was monumentally stupid.