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  1. There is no shame in being captured by wetlanders as they do not follow Ji'e'toh and thus does not count in the same way as taking a Gai'shan. In the show I thought Avi took some responsibility for the death of another maiden and that was what she was ashamed by. Although that would have required some negligence on her part to fit into the books version of Ji'e'toh. If you are referring to Egwene spanking/strapping then remember that for her being exposed was something she had struggled with, she even thought afterwards when Rhurrac was mentioned that she wanted a different punishment if he wanted to collect.
  2. But it's not even that. Emonds Field does not have people wandering about assaulting each other for lack of respect, it is only Nynaeve. The example you provide in relation to the Aiel everyone in the society is operating under the same societal norms. The Aiel in the books did not have an obsession with spanking that I remember. The punishments seemed to vary in my memory and often seemed specifically targeted to cause the individual the most discomfort mentally rather than physically. Aviendha was subjected to running laps, cleaning, a set of stripes from Amys (unsure if this was limited to the rear) and when they went all out it was meaningless work that was prescribed not physical punishment.
  3. If I remember rightly the Wisdom is the leader of all woman's circles in each village. The new wisdom is usually trained by the previous (watch hill i think appointed a trained wisdom from another village to avoid any favouritism). I am unsure within the villages what corporal punishment you are referring to among the adults is? The only example i can come up with is the couple who slept together before marriage and that would have been a punishment decided by the womans circle not just a random temper tantrum. I am not ignoring it with the children it is simply not relevant to include a parent disciplining a child in this discussion, and no I do not condone it as a method of discipline. This discussion has to do with a grown woman physically striking people simply for an actual or a perceived lack of respect. Saying that this actual or perceived lack of respect is enough to place some of the responsibility on the assaulted is not okay. Yes I will call it victim blaming because it is.
  4. Nynaeve was not democratically appointed. The mayor used the illusion of a threat in Luhans's muscles to directly counter an explicit threat to burn down the Inn and kill or injure people. If you cannot see the difference between that and actually striking people whom you deem are disrespecting you then you need to look closer. The mayor did not threaten to assault Cenn when he was aware that he had disrespected the council and himself by divulging the fireworks.
  5. It really feels like you are saying the bullied and abused must share some of the blame for her physical violence being effective. I doubt, and hope it was not, that was your intention.
  6. Well thats great for a religion guided literally by GOD. Far more likely that some good men who happened to be christians fought for freedom than that good chrisitians fought for freedom because of their faith.
  7. Hilarious the clearly out of context support of slavery. The salad approach or choosing to ignore the parts that are no longer morally acceptable is a joke. As mankind advances it drags the morals of the church with it as they desperately attempt to stay relevant. The bible especially the old testament is a book of evil.
  8. Lol at giving credit to the christian religion for the abolition of slavery only 18 centuries after the new testament and that after specifically supporting it earlier in the "holy" book.
  9. Saying they were equally involved is incorrect. The male Aes Sedai made the ways and then the Ogier contributed the superficial decoration. It would be like claiming that someone who decals a car was equally responsible for the making of a car as Ford. The Ways were primarily created for the Ogier to be able to travel between stedding without having to deal with the longing and not for travel to human cities even if they ended up using it for that purpose later. The male Aes Sedai sheltered in the stedding where they were cut off from the one power and this was their gift to the Ogier for that sanctuary. It is believed though not confirmed that the befouled power used to create the ways is what caused the corruption.
  10. Seachan made no use of channeling in healing prior to the return and even then I think it was considered at best distasteful to submit to it.
  11. I am not saying that finding a Black warder is impossible just that it removes a complication. There are a few Black warders mentioned in the book. Thomas who is Verin's warder is confirmed to be Black during the reveal with Egwene. I can't remember the sister's name but a Green/Black thinks about how she had relaxed masking her bond and that 2 of her 3 warders approaching where tied to the shadow.
  12. Reds also take no warders. A sister with a non black warder would have a difficult time hiding potential activities from them.
  13. He escaped with Fain who was with the trollocs I believe. Also would a trolloc be a suitable host, do shadowspawn have souls to be consumed allowing his escape.
  14. It is the Fain. Rand confirms it in Fal Dara when they capture him.
  15. Didn't Mat stab or cut the bloated form with the dagger.
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