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  1. This seems really damned pointless, but Ara's nice, so here we go.

     

    INVITATION TO THE MAFIA CHAMPIONSHIP (SEASON 10)

     

    Ahoy there! 🙂

     

    I’m very excited to invite your community to participate in Season 10 of the Mafia Championship.

     

    The Mafia Championship is an annual forum-based tournament series that pits representatives from various online Mafia (aka Werewolf) communities against one another as they compete to determine the Internet’s greatest forum Mafia player. Each participating community democratically elects one person to represent them and be their “Champion”.

     

    The tournament first started back in 2013. Since then, 370+ different communities and 50+ different nationalities have been represented.

     

    It’s a super fun event that has created many new friendships and close bonds between communities. I hope that you would be interested in taking part 🙂

     

    1. DO YOU ACCEPT THE INVITATION?

     

    If your community wishes to participate, please confirm your participation to Lissa or Arapocalypse as soon as you can to secure yourselves a spot. Currently, the plan is to accommodate 135 communities this season. If there is further interest, additional communities may sign up as substitutes; generally there are some replacements needed both before and during games.

     

    If your community agrees to participate, the deadline for selecting your representative is April 22nd, but the sooner the better.

     

    The games will take place on Mafia Universe. If it’s okay, I can link directly to the general discussion thread regarding this topic on Mafia Universe.

     

    Important notes

    • You may decide yourselves how you want to elect your representative, but we highly recommend some sort of democratic process (public nominations followed by a poll usually works out well).

    • In addition to electing a representative, you should also name an alternate (a back-up) who will be asked to step in if the first choice needs to back out.

    • Your representative should be prepared for having to read upwards of 600-700 posts per 24 hours during the early stages of the game. Additionally, there’s a requirement that each player must make at least 10 posts per Game Day. Only active players should apply/participate. I repeat: Your chosen player needs to be able to promise a good amount of activity on a daily basis!


     

    1. SEASON 10 FORMAT

     

    The tournament structure

    135 communities will participate, each sending one representative.

    • QUALIFIERS: 9 Qualifier Games will be played, consisting of 15 players each. I.e. every representative plays in one Qualifier Game. The players themselves vote post-game to determine who is deserving of advancement. 1st and 2nd places will advance to the Semifinal Games.

    • SEMIFINALS: A Jury consisting of finalists from Season 9 will select 27 additional players to advance to the three Semifinal Games. From each game, five players will advance to the Finale Game based on a post-game player vote, just like in the qualifying phase.

    • THE FINALE: The Finale Game is played. Once it has completed, the players vote to determine who shall receive the title of Season 10 Champion and a winner’s certificate signed by Dmitry Davidoff, the creator of mafia.


    The qualifier games will be played with the Adapt 6 setup (see below for more details), and the semifinal/finale games will be played using a different setup. The semifinal/finale setup will be a low-powered 15-player setup, with full details to be disclosed when the jury's semifinal advances are revealed.
     

    This year’s qualifier setup: Adapt 6

    Each of the 6 columns from the below table represents a different constituent setup, one of which will be chosen at random and used for the game:

     

    Analyze

    Deter

    All-round

    Protect

    Track

    6lock

    Town Odd Night Tracker

     

    Town Even Night Vanilla Cop

     

    Town 2-shot Doctor

     

    9x Vanilla Town

     

    Mafia 2-shot Watcher

     

    Mafia Roleblocker

     

    Mafia Goon

    Town Jack of All Trades

     

    Town 2-shot Roleblocker

     

    Town Odd Night Doctor

     

    9x Vanilla Town

     

    Mafia Roleblocker

     

    Mafia Jack of All Trades

     

    Mafia Goon

    Town Jack of All Trades

     

    Town Even Night Vanilla Cop

     

    10x Vanilla Town

     

    Mafia Jack of All Trades

     

    2x Mafia Goon

    Town Odd Night Doctor

     

    Town Even Night Jailkeeper

     

    10x Vanilla Town

     

    Mafia 1-shot Jailkeeper

     

    2x Mafia Goon

    Town Odd Night Tracker

     

    Town 2-shot Doctor

     

    10x Vanilla Town

     

    Mafia 1-shot Tracker

     

    2x Mafia Goon

    Town 2-shot Roleblocker

     

    Town Even Night Jailkeeper

     

    10x Vanilla Town

     

    Mafia 1-shot Roleblocker

     

    2x Mafia Goon

     

    Town Jack of All Trades has 1x Doctor, 1x Motion Detect, and 1x Roleblock.

     

    Mafia Jack of All Trades has 1x Role Cop and 1x Roleblock.

     

    Town 2-shot Doctor, Town 2-shot Roleblocker and Mafia Roleblocker are non-consecutive (cannot target the same player two nights in a row). Doctor actions can't self-target.

     

    Mafia flips will only reveal the alignment of the Mafia player, whereas Town flips will reveal the full role of the Town player.

    Relevant mechanics info

    • Day start.

    • Majority elimination will not be enabled during day 1 and is not required at any point for the elimination. Starting on Day 2 and until LYLO, majority will be enabled at 12 hours after SoD (in 36/12s and 48/24s) OR at 24 hours after SoD (in 72/24s). LYLOs are an exception to the majority delay, during which majority will be enabled immediately.

    • Tied votes will result in a player being eliminated at random from among the tied players.

    • No outside communication. I.e. you may not contact the other players outside of the thread (unless you are Mafia and wish to speak with your teammates).

    • Phase Lengths and Deadlines will be up to the players themselves (I’ll organize your representative into a game with deadlines that suit their preferences).

    • Thread is locked during Night Phases.

    • Votes are automatically locked in at LYLO

    • Mafia share a factional Night Kill, which is a single standard shot for their faction. The mafia factional kill is mandatory.

    • Mafia may communicate at any time.

    • Each individual player may make a maximum of 125 posts per day phase (this restriction is lifted 1 hour before day end).

    • The game will have a host to oversee everything and make sure everyone’s following the code of conduct, but otherwise the game is completely automated (automatic votecounts, thread locks and reveals alignments automatically, the bot receives and processes actions, etc.).

     

    1. SEASON 10 TIMELINE

     

    There will be 9 Qualifier Games, and your representative plays in just one of these. They will have start dates ranging from the end of April to mid-June. So in other words, as long as your representative can play sometime during that period, they should be good and I’ll make sure they get scheduled into a game that suits their schedule well. I.e. if your rep is busy until June, that isn’t a problem.

     

    The Semifinal Games will be played in July/August, and the Finale Game sometime in August/September (whenever we can work out something that suits everyone).

     

    If you want to get in contact with us ASAP, you can reach us on Discord  at Lissa#8083 or Arapocalypse#0834.

     

    Kind regards,

    Lissa

  2. 2 hours ago, SinisterDeath said:

    After looking at some of the discord chat, I do have to say:

    On D1 when I posted Verbal could be a role like vig or doc to punish players for lynching him D1, that was all predicated on the idea that Game Mods would curate teams to create an engaging/challenging experience. Clearly that's not the case, and I was wrong about that.

    I did not mean to offend, or insult anyone with those posts, that was never my intention.
    If any of you felt insulted or offended by any of those posts, I sincerely apologize. 
    I also apologize if any of you felt like my presence in this game was in any way disruptive, frustrating, etc.

    I also apologize for angleshooting. That wasn't my intention. I legitimately thought the game was over and Sooh was torturing us! I should have PM'd Sooh (or Cass) instead of posting in this topic. I'll make sure not to do this in the future, nor let other players that talked during night phase (or dead) lead me into thinking I can do that to.

    As for how much Mafia I've played?
    A decade ago, I played a handful of Mafia games. I think Alys Kinch? was the one that suckered me into playing. I can't remember how many games I played exactly, I just know that 95% of the games, I was lynched D1 because "lol, his username is SD. Totally wolf". Getting lynched D1 multiple times for next to no reason, made Mafia unfun, so I just didn't join a game again for another decade.

    My recommendations if you all keep playing Mafia on DM.

    • Create a good rules topic and not just a link to the mafia wiki. Include rules newbies won't know.
    • Create a topic about do's and don'ts Which can include things non-mafia people won't know about mafia "culture". It's like going to India and using your left hand to eat. Locals may find that extremely offensive, and unless you happened to research that exact topic, you may not know why.
    • Have a list of acronyms somewhere!
    • For the love of the light, please use people's forum Usernames. Not everyone is going to know everyone's IRL name.


    I also wanted to mention that when I thought Verb was a special role like Doc or Vig. I also grouped wolf in with special roles. Verb, Tripped, VooDoo, and Darthe were on my internal sus list. By the time D2/3 hit, I think had I even tried voting Verbal I would have been wagoned pretty fast. In retrospect, ya'll should have lynched me D2 when I self voted. 😉 

     

    Wait til you find out I gave reads using real names on people that weren't even in the game

  3. On 7/11/2022 at 11:31 AM, Hallia said:

    Why?  Dice came in with no actual case on me, was snarky, continued to not really contribute then bounced so like

     

    Even if he's town, that shouldn't affect your read on me

     

    This is the one I meant.  I realize this is literally true - Dice obviously didn't know Hallia's alignment, and I get why town!Hallia would be incentivized to say that, but it still didn't sit right with me.  Though I concede I read it after I knew Dice's alignment.

  4. 3 minutes ago, Darthe said:

    ima play some vermintide, yall figure this out

     

    Do you need to really know Warhammer to play that?  I have an old friend that tried to convince me years ago.

     

     

    No, just because I said "old friend" doesn't make it Liz.

  5. 6 minutes ago, Leelou said:

    Dead - 

    dice - townie lynched d1 

    Zander - townie tragically murdered n1 

     

    living players

    Leelou - princess snark

    cory - claimed doc

    verbs - claimed vig

     

    Darthe

    Hallia

    Voodoo

    AJ (I have conflicting feelings but you go here for now) 

    Tripped

     

    clov

    sd

     

     

     

     

     

    Can you elaborate on placement for Hallia, VooDoo, and Tripped?  

  6. 1 minute ago, TrippedOnReality said:

    I am actually.  I feel very confused right now tbh.  I guess leelou?  I wanted to ask you/cory if AJ was actually out of his wolf range with that big post he had this morning because it felt pretty genuine.  I have no idea how to feel about verbal claim, but im fine letting it ride for today.  I can't wrap my head around hallia's one post I mentioned earlier today about her thinking town!her was better than scum!dice and darthe saying she could make that post as mafia.  I still think both voodoo and SD spewed themselves.  If I'm wrong on one of them, it's probably SD???  I felt you and I have been on the same page most of the game, especially last night, so either you're just town, or my reads are trash.  Idk what to make of you getting run up because i don't think ive ever seen that happen?  I need to do some rereading after dinner.

     

    I don't know how to answer your question.  I guess the answer is literally no, I don't think he's out of it because I think AJ is capable of making really good posts as mafia, but I agree with you it felt pretty genuine.

     

    Verb's claim is relatively easy to fake - there was no chance whatsoever he gets countered, and I absolutely believe a mafia team with Verbal on it (doubly so if Leelou is there) would shoot Zander - but I'm just going to play ORM on it.

     

    Same IRT Hallia.  I think you and I disagree in the utility of allowing oneself to die, but I don't see how a town flip is ever better than a mafia flip, so I'd love to know where her head was at with that.  She also had a post I remember skimming, don't remember who it was to (Zander maybe) about saying Dice's flip shouldn't impact their read on her I didn't like. 

     

    Agreed on both things about VooDoo/SD, and if I'm wrong, there's still no part of me that cares.

     

    This last thing, I want you to really take it to heart, because I mean it - I am town AND your reads might still be trash! o/

     

  7. 4 minutes ago, VooDooNut said:

    Whenever someone outs a PR i get sus. Darthe and Cory planted the first doubt, and now Verbal coming out with the vig claim is throwing me for a loop. While Zander was a little sus D1 I didn't think we had enough evidence to make a good vig kill. It seems like a premature kill, or like Verbal's excuse is sus, or Zander was wolfed not shot and Verbal is fooling us all... So I think I just named the peeps whom I most sus atm. But it's really not fitting the groups direciton, so mostly I'm just assuming I'm overlooking some reads. I've liked what @whiskey deltaand @SinisterDeathhave been saying today though.

     

    I get your head's at on this.  I really do, but can I try to introduce a different way of thinking about it?

     

    Pretend it's an open setup.  7-2, with a cop and a doc.  Mafia needs to mislynch 3/7 townies to win.  Now let's say the cop and doc claim, and nobody counters.  They're confirmed town, and barring the biggest failure ever, unlynchable.  Now mafia needs to mislynch 3/5 townies.  

     

    It's a little more complicated here as it's a closed setup, but in addition to possibly giving information leading directly to a lynch (a la a cop), they still help prevent mislynches and force town to readjust.  

  8. 1 minute ago, Leelou said:

    Did we mistakenly derp clear Darthe? 

     

    Do you mean one of VooDoo/SD, or are you not using derp clear in the typical sense?  I don't think there's been anything Darthe's done that constitutes a derp.

     

    If you just mean people were dumb to clear him, I seriously doubt that.  He's nowhere near as townie as he's portraying (which is completely NAI for him), but he's been more townie than most people from the start of the game to present, has had a good number of interactions with most people, and unless it was just one of those epic rands where we had no shot, IDK that he constantly tries to pick fights with the people he has.  Maybe I'm underselling his faith in his scum game.

     

     

    Darthe, I know you're going to go on a rant here about how you're clearly the most obvious town ever - by all means, have the biggest circlejerk you want, just put it in a spoiler or something?

  9. Just now, Darthe said:

    Hey clov, say you flip town.  Where would you point us heading into tomorrow?

     

    I'm going to flip town, and I'm not going to point you people in any damned direction lol 

     

    I'm honestly floored youd think I would.

  10. 2 hours ago, whiskey delta said:

    Last thing

     

    @Clovdyx you said the only post of mine from the last two days you could see coming from town!AJ was the Hally no-claim read. In the greater context of play, can you explain how things I have done this game fit into a mafia perspective? And no - I’m not asking for a big glass of WIFOM here.
     

    I’d actually ask the same of anyone who is still unsure about me. 

     

    Seen, and I'll try to address it tonight.  

     

    And I saw your big post, and I'll give overall thoughts layer but wanted to say I swear on my EGA I genuinely do not care how you (or anyone else) reads me.  If people think I'm scum, that's fine - it's a mafia game.  I. Have the same ability to rand maf as everyone else.  I've been scumread before, and itll happen again.   I don't even care if you vote me 

     

    I care an epic F ton WHY they read me, because that gives insight to alignments, and figuring people out is really all I care about when I'm town.  If somebody explains their reasoning and it's fake as hell, that's a problem.  But if I believe they believe it, hey,  nature of the game.

     

    @whiskey delta

  11. 22 minutes ago, Darthe said:

    lol clov's throwing verbal haymakers tonight

     

    I was going back to shun you all for not laughing at my intercourse joke and saw this again.  It took me twenty minutes you realize you meant "verbally throwing haymakers" and not "haymakers at verbal" or "haymakers like verbal would".

     

     

    I have claimed to be the best mafia player.  I have never claimed to be the smartest.

  12. 5 hours ago, Darthe said:

    one of AJ/Cory almost has to be a wolf.

     

    I think clov is clear to me.

     

    leelou prob clear despite some waffling.

     

    voodoo feels inorganic and idk if I believe that’s inexperience or if it is more nefarious.


    Sinister prob town btw, I really came down that way last night on my rereads. Imo voodoo is the far more likely new wolf.

     

    hally, I would love to know your read on Cory and plz don’t get too influenced by his pocket attempts.

     

    verb, u gonna show up to play any harder?

     

    5 hours ago, Darthe said:

    vote Cory 

     

    5 hours ago, Darthe said:

    Since you all think I’m town, follow me and hammer.  Don’t hesitAte, don’t ask more questions, doc me tonight.

     

    k?

     

    5 hours ago, Darthe said:

    AJ, if you’re town, I need you.

     

    I know you said the last two were just to get something out of him and not meant to be a serious speed lynch, so whatever - still don't like it, but I dont' remember you asking for my approval.  You have reads in the top post.  Fine, makes sense, this is a mafia game.

     

    5 hours ago, Cory Caboose said:

     

    Whatever.


    I docced you last night.

     

    k.

     

    5 hours ago, Darthe said:

    See sinister that’s how you screw up and out town PRs in style.

     

    for reall though, that claims verifiable unless they have an RB in which case you’re screwed and I’ll live to tomorrow.  Unvote for now, and this is good cause now we have a 2p core.  Who else can find their way on the good guys list?

     

    Yeah, unvoting makes sense...

     

     

    5 hours ago, Darthe said:

    Cory on your reread can you find out of clov is a wolf?  Assuming you’re not, two of him, AJ, and voodoo basically have to be.

     

    So we went from one of Cory/AJ with me clear to two of me/AJ/Voodoo have to be.  This is where things fall apart for me, and not just because I know my alignment.  Unless you were overstating your confidence on the Cory/AJ polarity, my reaction to seeing one person hardclaim in a "X or Y is almost assuredly mafia" isn't "Okay, X or Z"... it's "well, X is probably mafia" and you know, trying to resolve that.  I don't remember seeing anything where you've worked to resolve AJ since that point.

     

    5 hours ago, Darthe said:

     But why?

     

    This was to someone questioning voting me, I believe Leelou

     

    4 hours ago, Darthe said:

    She will, but we aren’t voting Cory.  Clov/AJ is a good fight to spectate and that storms brewing nicely.

     

    Again, how confident was the Cory/AJ dichotomy... because unless I greatly misinterpreted your confidence, or you were just lying about it, I'd think you'd feel a hell of a lot less confident in having someone you would presumably be scumreading thunderdoming someone you said was cleared a few hours ago.

     

    4 hours ago, Darthe said:

    Hmm if it’s clov voodoo leelou can that team resign and crown me for this post?

     

    This might have just been spitballing/tinfoil, but in one hour we went from "Clov and Leelou likely villagers, one of Cory or AJ mafia" to "neither of Cory and AJ, but two of my strongest townies are now mafia candidates" even though only one of your two previous candidates was resolved.

     

    So yeah, I have some concerns about your slot based on this afternoon/evening, even without considering your possible world is contingent on me throwing a vote on my teammate whose done little more than express concerns about me.

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