Still no reason to believe Dice and DPR aren't the town roles they claim. Ithi seems more town every page that goes by. I still think Verb is putting in too much effort to not be town, when there are multiple other people who aren't posting much. He could have hid out among them and avoided nearly all the attention. It's a little unnerving that be was one of the only people town reading both mislynches so far. I had Nyn as town based on her early game, then RL stuff got in the way. So I don't want to read too much into her play since then. My original reason to suspect Key went out the window with the Heavy flip. But the fact remains that she says little of substance in those long posts. Would vote here without a problem. Nothing about Tigraine has changed. The Heavy lynch was almost a forgone conclusion with how heavily he'd been sussed from the beginning, so it would have been very simple for her teammate (if scum) to jump on that train at any time and hope for the best.

I made a joke just after nightfall about an Australian YouTube channel I really like and DPR went straight to personal insults. Pissed me off quite thoroughly.

Oh am I allowed to play now without "making it weird?"

Fine, I'll leave you people alone since you clearly don't want me around. See you at daybreak.

Are we interrogating Dice about being Aussie? @dicetosser1Are you or are you not familiar with the YouTube channel Primitive Technology?

Sigh. That isn't what I was hoping for.

Guess I'll go mow the lawn while we wait for Darthe? IDK what else can even happen until we get the flip.

Welp I checked and yes.

Has Tig been around since DPR moved his vote?

Meanwhile I think this is why he's still alive. Scum decided to get cute and use him as a touchpoint for town infighting. It isn't like he can hurt them while the roleblocker is still alive.

Is #4 also meant to encompass the mafia getting greedy? Meaning they shot without their strongman in the hopes of saving it and WIFOMing the doc into protecting elsewhere but it didn't work. I don't think it matters in the end. We have to solve this game the old fashioned way.

That's just it. She posts sometimes but I can't remember a single thing she's even done this game except get on my butt for my D1 case against her. She seems to be coasting and waiting for us all to kill each other.

Or at least considering voting him. I'm pragmatic enough not to bother with an off train hero vote at the deadline.

I don't believe that. I still think Key is mafia. And DPR is off my WTL list for mechanical reasons only, not reads. If it weren't for his claim I'd be voting him.

Welp, you all saw him force my hand. Vote Zander Actually though. I wouldn't mind a Tigraine lynch but Heavy is equally sus and his flip is higher equity in the solving-the-game department. Vote Heavy

Is the bold in reference to me post-sub? You didn't make a clear distinction between Turin's actions and mine since taking his place. If it is about me, some clarification would be nice, or examples. I'd like to think I've given good explanations for each read I've "walked back." Both of my other scum reads in the scum lean section. That just makes me more confident that two of the three of you are mafia. Bit of a pot-kettle thing here. This reads list is the first time I recall you posting about anyone other than DPR, Ithi, me, or Tigraine the entire game. You're wrong here. Dice claiming cop only buys him a day if he's lying, because the real cop can then counterclaim. That gets one of them lynched immediately, and if the real cop is the one lynched then Dice is dead meat the following day. So it's two days max.

When town wins, dead town members win with them. I get that you don't want to die, but DPR is right about people paying more attention to your cases once they have confirmation that you're town. And that street cred is directed at future games. At the time I was primarily directing my post-hammer ire at DPR and Ithi, the ones who had really driven my mislynch. DPR has since claimed a town role and nobody has bothered to counterclaim, so I have to put him in the "do not lynch" pile. Ithi, as you can see from my various read lists, made her way up to null by helping get Ed, then has read more town over the course of D3 to me. More importantly, bringing up D1 wagonomics is an interesting choice. D2 wagonomics would be more valuable IMO, or even a comparison of the two. Smells of distraction.

Thanks, that actually does answer my question. I read that to mean you thought the roleblocker dying would mechanically solve the game. If it's more about play style then it makes so much more sense.

Well since you asked. Laying aside all tone discussion, there are three things. First, your reads on people are almost exclusively mirroring of others. For example, you started town reading me just after Verbal did, and you started heavily sussing DPR just after I went after him. Second, you've used a pity-based emotional appeal twice now to try and push heat off of yourself. That self-vote was one. Third, knowing your alignment for sure, whichever way it is, solves several other people for me and makes winning this game more likely.

Bad puns aside, Zander's position is very close to my state of mind also. I'd like to see either Heavy or Tigraine be the lynch today. Heavy's flip does more to help me solve other people, so I'm slightly more interested in him today. Bookmarking this for myself. If Tigraine dies and flips scum, DPR gets a push in the direction of town on my list (independent of the claimed Hider role). It doesn't seem likely for a teammate to fake this kind of thing, where she admits to fishing for his approval on a case.

So... you made an angleshooty case on me, saw it wasn't going anywhere, and decided to pivot to the next competing train to save yourself? How exactly? Lynching a mafia member in general would go a long way to solving this game of course. But why the roleblocker specifically? The only downstream effect I can see from the RB dying is that Dice dies the following night with no doc to protect him.

Bad puns = wolfy behavior obv

Also why oh why would anyone use TurinMarsh to refer to my current player slot when Turineyes is right there?

I skimmed along yesterday (and got busted by my wife for reading the game during church) but I'm gonna catch up for real now. At least on the most recent 10 pages or so. Most of what happened on Saturday was a big waste of time thanks to all the WIFOM about Turin. What's caught my eye so far: The quotes in this spoiler are a really good look from Ithi. She was initially taken in by Tigraine's whole Turin thing, then considers it and comes to the conclusion that it isn't worth lynching over. That's a pro-town move. As scum, it would be soooo easy to take the excuse for another mislynch, especially if Tig or Heavy happens to be also scum. It would take pressure off them. I'm moving Ithi from null to town lean based on this.