FWIW I don't think you need a high-end bourbon for this, but bourbon does better than a scotch or whisky because of the sweetness. Something on the smoother side like an Angel's Envy would be nice but Makers will always do the trick.

Godspeed good sir. Do you have a whipped cream dispenser? You'll never make a better whisky sour than mine, but it basically requires one. https://a.co/d/78KPKpP

Tbh that’s not stuff I wanna get into. It’s not available to all players so if there’s outside info that would color a view well have to accept it as a limitation of the format.

I’m just chatting. No motivations beyond understanding and fact finding. the day has to go to sd or Turin, and I don’t think it’s productive for peace to be in the options in lieu of my reveal, but otherwise this is all very up-front. its kinda nice actually, I’m not used to being so straightforward.

That post is framed weird. To clarify, I’m acknowledging a fringe thought and not my current opinion of Ithi’s alignment. I’m worried, but she’s not being considered nontown by me as of yet.

Simple answer is Ithi is a wolf protecting SD and heavy and semi-trapped in a cruddy mafia team, but I don’t wanna buy into my own paranoia. If you are a wolf, it’s your game to lose friend. I’d rather die on trying to make a town core with you than spend the next week arguing for one of the people who gets to survive to screw it up at Lylo anyhow

I’m legitimately baffled that we’re having this conversation too, fwiw. I thought you were a set and forget townie who I could toss a different opinion at and we’d talk it out. I dunno why it isn’t going that way, but discrediting my by saying Darthe gonna Darthe, or that I’m trying to darthe you, etc. is flat out gonna end poorly. Whether that be for you, me, or the game as a whole I dunno, but it isn’t ever in town!Ithi’s best interest any more than it is mine.

It does and is. We have no coroner (my bad), and we’re in an alien kitchen sink-y setup that’s got revival and other twists I’m sure. It’s a Wes game. Throwing away the pursuit of building a core is… not something I’d expect an experienced townie to do.

If you cared about someone not giving reads or being flaky you’d be on Ed’s ass.

😞 you’re harming my town read on you, and if you’re town I really don’t need that.

I see.

You could be right. but not responding to you doesn’t make him a wolf. not having a perfect memory of events doesn’t make him a wolf. antagonizing doesn’t either, though you’ve done far more of that this day than he has. so none of those count for anything. You’re too good at hunting for those to be what you’re spending your day on. More importantly, I’ve gifted the thread a higher probability shot at killing a wolf than any read. Why are you so dead set on dodging a 1 in 2 shot at a wolf?

Like there’s not some godly single post that I can point to and everyone’s going to bow before his towniness. thats not how the game works. but I’m looking at a player and I’m seeing some pretty difficult to fake posts, made nearly consecutively, in the same day.

May be a bit out of order here but these are all from today. A wolf doesn’t want to disengage from a person misrepping them as loudly as you are. He is frustrated here, clearly, and isn’t backing down on his points, so why does a wolf!peace both resist making accusations of you and simultaneously refuse to continue to engage? I’ll remind you that in posts below he both references that he thinks DPR threw in some curveballs on role matching alignments, and on wanting to jump on the Turin/sd match. He left himself a window here to chase you and didn’t take it. This is a pure attempt to solve. Remove peace and pretend dice said this, and how townie would you think it is? And it’s wrong about Ed/dice doing the revival from what I understand, which isn’t a mistake an informed wolf makes. I wouldn’t argue that he’s out of the loop as a wolf, as in your scenario he’d be very engaged for one. You’ll disagree on it but this read on heavy is strong and is a better consideration of the apportioner role. I’d be more inclined to agree if you thought this was TMI than if you think it’s just wrong. Heavy aside, the setup point about roles aligning with alignment in a no coroner game is again just smart play. It’s not an observation I think a wolf can state in thread easily without coming across as over-informed but here it’s pretty natural.

What am I missing here? The timing inaccuracy just means nothing to me, I do that all the time… as town.

Fwiw I love this post. I stand by my reads and don’t think I’m wrong on them, but I like seeing someone else I think is town who’s diametrically opposed to my viewpoints. That’s a very strong position. We should not be voting outside of Turin/sd today. That’s the piece I am most against. I’d feel the same way if someone else used the role and claimed, it’s not about me casting it but rather about the information gleaned from it. I do still see an unreasonable focus on peace. For the bad posts you can make that are so important to you, I read them and think they’re slightly worse than null. Similarly, he has strong posts that lean me the opposite way that you’ve ignored. I get it if you wanna murder that guy, but I’m asking you to set it aside for today. As for heavy, I don’t at all agree that apportioner is pro-town. It’s good for either team and it is stronger for a wolf. If that’s the basis of your pass I need you to step back and re-evaluate.

I’m not really worried about the slip, just highlighting it because it’s interesting in context. Admittedly, could be wrong there but I do think I’m leaning towards you as the wolf between you two. id like to see more from Turin, him and Ithi both tbh. unvote

Yeah that tracks, dice has great fundamentals and hasn’t alienated the newer players so I see why you’d be comfortable with him.

This post has me worried that you don’t understand the role claim. There’s no (logical) choice in accepting the claim. Its mod confirmed that the role was used, I claimed proactively before the role was realized to be used in the OP. and I’m not CCd. That’s as confirmed as anything you’ll ever see in a mafia game, short of an IC or mod error. This means that your only options regarding the Turin/SD wagons are to believe the ability results were compromised or to believe that one of them is a wolf. There are complex reasons to believe it wasn’t messed with, but suffice it to say it is improbable enough to not chase those ideas down unless we get better info to support that notion. Mathematically, a 50/50 to get a wolf is enough that in a high level game the players never go outside of those two options in a day. the TLDR here is that WIFOMing on the ability use or on lynching outside of those two is low level play. I’m not saying that as an attack. I’m saying it because I need you to not be a liability, and I want you to understand where your decision making above is flawed. I am trying to help the decision making above improve. On the plus, this does look very townie for you.

Oh did Ed claim the shot on heavy? I must’ve missed that. Cool beans, heavy’s a wolf so Ed is town.

Ithi if peace were town would you think SD was the wolf over Turin? Conversely if it is peace and Turin, who is their third?

So I’ve been called garbage twice, a disappointment, and told “I thought you were good” here. Obvious bait is obvious. If you’re content with losing every round you play that’s on you, but it deserves just policy lynching you and taking the handicap. I see nothing town aligned here, in motivation or process. Further, I think you’re skirting by on people who accept any slop you pump out, but it’s not in my interest to do so. tldr, we need to lynch heavy. Read this post, townies in this thread should’ve had called this one out by now but you’re all too content to let it slide by. Checks out, I’m cool with that. Not alignment indicating of itself but picking dice is. Why him? SD you’re too good at being a wolf to put this many x y z statements in your post. It’s sketching me out and I don’t wanna think you’re not town. Peace still looks town. It’s a big problem that he is the primary wagon over the gladiator choices. Speaks a lot to the poor coordination of our town and limited activity. Need those of you who are engaged to get with the program here, we’re doing the mafias jobs for them if they don’t have a core to pick apart. Chasing this down is fascinating. Are we assuming that a wolf! Bus driver would bus drive with themselves and another player? I think this is more likely just looking for an out. Again, peace making clear signals he is town. Ithi I ❤️ u and think you’re a town goat but your read on peace is completely biased headhunting. Get the bit out of your mouth and find me an answer more relevant to the solve, I’m not gonna watch you burn a lynch like this. This is just a wolf, we don’t need to go further. Wolf having a revival is fascinating, but this also is pretty clearing for whoever shot heavy d1. Cool by me, you’ve got time. Interested in seeing what you find. “I maintain I’m town” is different from “I’m town”. People misuse “slips” all the time, but this is a real one. vote sd

OK Ed, you're here and you've got good tone, but I need you to feed me boo. Can't ride along for three consecutive games man, it's not good practice. So gimme something. Hot takes. Reads. Favorite scene from TNG. Just feed me bby.

I picked these two based on a post of berf's from yesterday, as I said. Seeing the internal consistency here is a nice reinforcement though, and unforced on his part. Very natural posting, which to me says town. It was a greedy move, but I've got a core here. (myself), Berf, Ithi, the good guy between Turin (probably) and SD are clean Ed could be a deep wolf but I doubt it Peace I mostly am reading from Ithi interactions Gud/shad I don't have good takes on Wolves in (probably SD between turin/SD), Heavy. ^We lynch bottom up and we win this game.

These four posts together almost 100% sell me on SD/Heavy being a team. The only thing holding me back from shipping it is that SD highlighted the role as used up in the OP.