A few setup questions for ya Wes: Can we see the order of operations for action resolution? I’m interested in how some interactions work. For instance, when an ability is passed along is passing it a targeted action? If so, does this give the psychic the alignment of the player who passed an ability to them? Will an individual spared by the apportioner be aware that they’re marked for death? Siren nullifies actions but would a watcher who viewed the player making said action still see it attempt to fire off? Are players allowed to reveal where they sent abilities and generally role claim? If a day kill is performed will it reset the trains for the day? If not, could it reduce majority in a way that causes a hammer? is there any avenue to convert a symp to full mafia? If I pass an ability to a player who is killed on the night I passed it to them, is it gone forever? I think I see a loop wherein the doc/bunyip protect the psychic and as their roles are passed along they announce in thread who they’ve passed to. So long as they both live and there aren’t enough ways to mess with them, this functionally clears a player or two every night. on role 18 you misspelled anti-doctor the second time you typed it.

🙂 that’s good insight. man I hope I get town next game

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❤️ I appreciate the confidence, I'll fake it to keep from disappointing.

Oh I’m not pretending that is old hands are actually more talented, just that our experience gives us some leeway they’ve not yet earned. I’m very impressed with Gud Heavy and Teph. But they won’t let a new recruit, even one with perfect aim, run an army.

As a wolf I perceived multiple new players being upset about the topic of their newness as useful. i did use it somewhat, but there’s a kernel of truth in both sides of the argument. It’s good we’re discussing this outside of the game. No one should be biased against new players because they’re new. On the flip side, a new player doesn’t have a technical understanding of the game, doesn’t know the other players, and hasn’t developed a style that others know how to read. This means that when I (who have played with this group for ten years) say something others may give it more weight than a new player saying the same thing. People know I know what I’m talking about. They may contextually disregard something a new player finds suspect because they’re know how I speak, and that’s not something the new player can easily understand. There may be a conversation sparked off of that which the new player is fundamentally out of the loop on. And without knowing that new players alignment, it may be impossible to have an open discussion of that disparity in the game thread. on the flip side. A new player may be able to get away with freedoms experienced players cannot. No one will ever give me a window to explain myself if I say I misunderstood a setup for instance. Experienced players aren’t going to give in on this point because they know they’re right. It’s part of the disconnect newer players don’t get because of their inexperience ironically. The best solution to it is what Heavy just did, play a good game. No more new player pass, but also we’re now past that convo for next game.

Town will win a game if they stop spending their days on NAI behavior. New players have a different perspective, and I tried to weaponize that since it was such a hot topic but got crushed by that perspective being too good (even though it still worked out in spite of me?) Last game Ithi used lists against y’all. The game before that mechanical discussion was “bad” somehow and we used that. town are paranoid, uninformed, trying to solve. what makes a wolf a wolf is that they can’t help knowing that they are one, and knowing their teammates are. Let’s get back to the fundamentals of measuring sincerety, insight, progression, logic, and intent.

Yeah that came out worse than I meant it. Sorry about that too heavy. If it’s any consolation I think it got me lunched. Also, I was baffled that they lynched you. Your game was very quality, and I thought I’d screwed things up for my team by spewing you hard.

It is slightly wolfy but what would the town alternative be? Letting it ride would be seen as wolfy in hindsight.

I owe an apology to EP. I was upset with you and said some things I shouldn’t have. Disappointed in myself for that man, hope someday we play another game together and we both have fun in it.

I’m good with it being released, for sure

Hate to tell you this mate but we predicted that

Team effort fwiw, ty for the game key and gg to my teammates and to all players

Lololololol gg gl all

Today has been such a headache. I’m right too much for y’all to give me so little credit, so going back to the bases here. Lynch SD, resolve from there.

vote sd There may be a way to coordinate the jail keep, doc, and vig together so that we almost guarantee another day even with a mislynch.

Scratch that, better question. Ignore Wes for a moment, slip or no slip or whatever that’s not the play for today. I get that you’re voting there, but it’s the wrong pivot. We need all voters on the same person. who is your most confident wolf read?

Turin what are you seeing irt the past 5 pages? Do you get the heavy read?

unvote That slip sits wrong with me. Wes doesn’t make that mistake.

I think you’d really like us to talk about something else. But I’ll humor it. What plan? PR claims? It’s mylo, town needs what it can get. If the doc can self protect I’m even more for it, but I get if they don’t wanna do similar.

Town!Darthe thinks town!Wes would try and find a nontown! Player for town! To lynch. Maybe approaching the game like the oracle from the matrix isn’t the strongest look boo. I got down in the mud to duke it out. You want me to think you’re town, then fight. My job is to turn these stones over.

I don’t give a fig if people *want* to believe me. Aggro town is still town even if someone dislikes it. None of which is the point. You just went from “Darthe is my top wolf” to “Darthe join us for the win“. You’re aware I’m town.

Omgus saved for a whole RL day later? What, was I looking to split up my own town core proposal and undermine my own reads I started the day with? Failure to have a real argument.

God that’s worse, he acknowledged I’m town there. I’ve never seen you make a mistake like that Wes.