This is weird. You have Dice as wtl after his cop claim with no cc. Yet you have Rand as town solely (imo) due to him unvoting the cop. If Dice is mafia, mafia Rand could also UNVOTE him. I'm not saying that is that case. I'm saying that you don't make sense. It's like you just discounted all of EoD with the exception of moving Ithi down(blahblahblah defending). You kept Key town. You kept Dice wtl. Despite his cop claim it seems. You kept DPR wtl. You moved Rand to Top Town using weird logic. BTW, your claim that too much of my posts were defending Ithi is just not true. That's 2013 meta and it doesn't apply here. I think you threw it out hoping people would remember the back then and just go with it. If you think I'm lying about the last, prove it.

This makes no sense. Dice isn't going to get copped if he's not the cop. He's gonna get voted tomorrow. Unless the real cop thinks he actually is town playing a dangerous game. I don't understand why you are treating Dice as both the un cc'd cop and a person of interest. Either you believe or you don't. If you didn't believe you should have just kept your vote on and lynched him and took the heat. That you didn't means your not committed to him being mafia. Logic says you need to accept him as town until additional evidence changes that. That you then only can see Key as potentially his teammate is also Olympic level mental gymnastics. Finally, making an exception for Key from the lynch All Ironeyes voters is sketchy as heck.

This sounds like mafia that KNEW Ironeyes would flip town.

I would say the chance of Ironeyes being the target is small (1/12, 1/9 if mafia are excluded). It is possible but an SK still wants to kill mafias, especially the RB and strongman. First. Due to the probability of multiple townies dying tonight, we should all try to give our thoughts. That way the rest of the town can see where we are knowing we're town. Second, and this could be incorporated in the list, indicating who we would doc, cop, shoot, hide behind. The Doc may not matter as the Strongman can kill thru the doc protect. If everyone does it, it gives mafia more to think about and maybe they make a mistake or just do something sub optimal. Oh, and you can't choose yourself for any action. That should go without saying but yeah.

This is to Ironeyes, his town read. He doesn't really say anything about Heavy but seems to be setting up DPR to look bad if Heavy flips mafia. I think Verb is likely mafia, and I also think his flip makes Heavy more likely mafia, as well as Key possibly. That's a bit of a stretch tbf so I will have to look into that further.

This is to Heavy. It is the softest dis towards Heavy but also one of the last things that he has posted regarding him.

Verb doesn't mention Heavy at all in this post other than to say he is unlikely w/w with Ironeyes (his big town read). I mean if Marsh is town like he has been advocating, doesn't that make Heavy look worse? Verb doesn't seem to be even considering that possibility.

Looked at Verbs post and still don't see how he had Heavy as town. He kinda avoided talking about him even when he was a pertinent part of conversation. I'm gonna look for a couple of quotes.

I'm waiting to hear from Darthe about some setup questions but I think town needs to be active on this night and provide a much cover as possible for our power roles. Also, everyone should try to make there own read lists with reasoning so we get as much info as possible from a night where up to 3 townies could die. Like, if I'm the cop... etc There are 4 roles that can help us tonight. We need to do what we can to let them work. Yes Turin talking setup and mechanics, blah blah blah. I don't care. I'm pretty sure Darthe said it was okay.

Quoting VC with about 2hrs to DL... My take on EoD focusing on VOTING. I think Verb and to a lesser extent Ed look bad from this, provided Dice is actually the cop. Ed because imo he never made a real vote ( I saw his Tigraine vote as a joke), and left never to return with tied trains on confirmed townie (Ironeyes) and the un cc'd cop claim (Dice). Verb looks much worse to me. He voted Dice to even the trains with imo bad reasoning. He could have voted Heavy and still tied the trains. I think that would have made more sense. His town read (IRONEYES) was advocating for a Heavy lynch. It would have been more likely to result in Ironeyes not being lynched. Additionally, he popped in immediately when Dice asked about him. To me it looked like he was watching, content to have townies in a tie. I will have to look at where Verb has Heavy and his progression during the day.

Idk. I could go with any of those.

Funnies

Time to rest. Getting sleepy.

Nyra, so she's a she. Meditation or examination??

Not sending Flicker off on his own. Let's do it!!

@RandA lThor , not gonna quote your big post to make my reply. I disagree with your assessment of Nyn with regards to Dice. She didn't defend Heavy, she called out Dice for essentially picking low hanging fruit imo. Ironeyes did defend Heavy although he says he didn't mean to and now is voting him... they aren't the same. I would defend someone I thought town, but Marsh pretty much all along has said he thought Heavy was mafia and even proposed that theory that Heavy and Key are mafia together. So yeah, agree to disagree.

He didn't to my knowledge. I just looked in the OP here and the sign up thread. Nothing even about it. I dunno.

Hey Key, I figured out what you were asking about with regards to Heavy( I think). I was asking anyone that cared to answer, your response led me to consider other possibilities. I'm not sure either way but appreciate the response. About Dice's further posts, I don't really remember anything other than his misrepofme and then latching onto what I thought was an easy vote on Rand for joining late and making jokes with Nyn. I hope that I didn't miss anything else.

Sorry Key, I got lost in that multi quote. I think there was at least one question for me but I couldn't sort through all the posts. I think it was something about Heavy???

Keep going. Maybe there's a shortcut.

Can we get your reads Verb?

That is unfortunately Heavy under any real or assumed pressure. It is why I treat him as gently as I do. Zen Heavy can be a good townie. I find it amazing you have worked out this case to land on Key when others, myself included to an extent have suggested that while his posting can be sketchy, it isn't necessarily indicating his alignment. What troubles me most about him right now is how he has gone right to conceding his lynch as inevitable when he isn't even the leader at this point. That despite making claims of mafia on his train, he isn't trying to make a real case. Not even voting anyone presently.

That seems like a lot of assumptions when HEAVY has exactly 1 vote. I think??? This feels a lot like a big bus job. But it still makes no sense to me.

Aye Aye!

The QT thing is terrible reasoning. It was hashed out that QT is sadly dead. I hope that isn't your basis for Heavy is mafia. What is your basis for Heavy is mafia? You sounded really sure.