Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Eldrick4221]

 

Pral are you around to talk later if I catch up first?

I'm around too :(

I might not be 'later' though.

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Pral are you around to talk later if I catch up first?

I'm around too :(

 

I might not be 'later' though.

 

Lol, if you have questions ask away :)

 

I'm pretty happy with my read on you, while I'd like to determine Prals

[Eldrick4221]

Oh i thought you had questions lol.

 

Current reads list? Or at least a current wtl?

[Eldrick4221]

I would also like to determine pral's :/

[Eldrick4221]

I'm not much of a direct question person lol. I'm more of a "point out what I notice and see what people think" kinda guy.

[Eldrick4221]

Unless something doesn't make sense ofc

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I asked Darthe, but question goes to everybody.

 

If you are wrong about your top scum read, and you accidently mislynch them, who do you think is scum?

 

We will have one more shot if we are wrong today.

This is tricky to answer:

 

At the moment I'm happy with my read on you/Zander

 

Dice would be my next best guess of town, but I wish I was more confident

 

That leaves me with Pral, Darthe, Cass

 

I probably have Pral as the most likely town in the three

 

I'll explain as best I can in a minute

[Eldrick4221]

So I never did get back to sleep this morning. My body is realizing that I only slept 5 hours lol

[BFG]

Oh i thought you had questions lol.

 

Current reads list? Or at least a current wtl?

Incoming, still incomplete though :/

 

But Cass, Darthe, (Pral)

[Eldrick4221]

Of course incomplete. That's why I said current :P

[Eldrick4221]

What's the (Pral) mean?

[Eldrick4221]

Ignore my last post. I missed you responding to my question and get it now.

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Sorry back soon

[Eldrick4221]

This is tricky to answer:

It's not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to make you think considering the gravity of being wrong. It's easy to mislynch when you are sure the person is town. It's designed to put the blinders aside from who you are stuck on as being scum and consider them as town.

[Eldrick4221]

 

This is tricky to answer:

It's not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to make you think considering the gravity of being wrong. It's easy to mislynch when you are sure the person is scum. It's designed to put the blinders aside from who you are stuck on as being scum and consider them as town.

FTFM lol

[Eldrick4221]

I guess it's time to zzzzzzzzzzz

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Working week in Oman is Sunday to Thursday, so I'll be in and out as I need to set up training facilities for tomorrow (and review material etc)

[BFG]

 

 

This is tricky to answer:

It's not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to make you think considering the gravity of being wrong. It's easy to mislynch when you are sure the person is scum. It's designed to put the blinders aside from who you are stuck on as being scum and consider them as town.

 

FTFM lol

 

Fair

 

At the moment I would need a very good reason to reconsider you/Sooh/Zander

 

So if Cass flipped town I'd be looking at Pral/Dice, if Darthe flipped town then I'd be looking at Pral (Cass/Dice never m/m)

 

But I'm conscious of the fact that I'm still lacking context for a majority of the game and am worried that I'm missing something crucial in the missing stuff :/

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Dice who do you want to lynch today and why and who is their Scum partner and why?

 

my gut is still screaming pral but im a little shook on it as it was proven i was wrong in my thinking

 

im not sure right now tbh because of it

 

 

 

Dice who do you want to lynch today and why and who is their Scum partner and why?

And if you lynch them and are wrong, how will you deal with LYLO tomorrow?

 

Who would be scum if your top scum is wrong?

 

 

 

if its lylo tomorrow we should lynch darthe now.

 

if i was wrong id probably lynch zander

 

When you say proven wrong do you mean after my quick Pral ISO? What's your read on me at this point?

[BFG]

 

I don't think Darthe is town. Only ones I have any confidence in being town are Zander and Dice.

 

Cass and Pral are more likely scum than Darthe is, but I'm not against lynching him. If one of those is town, I'd sub Darthe for them.

Setting up future lynches isn't really a new angle, and I'm not surprised to see it here.  Makes me think that whichever way Eldrick wants to go we should go the other way today if it truly does come down to cass/laya.

 

Given you're reading Cass as town, why would you ever consider lynching her?

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@Cass either Shad's clearing a teammate or he's defending town, I can see Shad doing either, in many ways he's a tactical player

 

Why are you ignoring everyone's questions to you except Zanders?

[BFG]

ISO'd BFG

 

 

 

Ok, I've read maybe 60% of the threadMarshRandomSockZanderPralCassDartheDiceI can't necessarily explain any of them very wellSooh is outside the mafia range I have for her, but that's difficult to judge fairly as they've been under pressure for most of the game and it's messing up my read. Eldrick seems to have no filter, but I'd have to look through old games to see if that means anythingZander's paranoia looks good for himI think if Pral/Shad were m/m that Pral would have voted with his read Day 1I remember a lot of questions from Cass but no opinions? I don't remember much from Dice or Darthe outside their pushes on Zander/Sock

These are the reads that she starts with. I played with BFG as hydra last game and she is not fixed on her reads. She thinks and rethinks all her reads over and over again and it is apparent in her posts.

 

In this game, she is very very confident that zander is town and doesn't even have any doubts regarding it. In fact, many of her posts also depend on him being town. Even with sooh, there is one post where she justifies her read on her.

 

All through her game, she focuses only on the null or scum part of the above read and I find that troubling.

 

 

Finn what I know about her, this doesn't look like town BFG.

 

I don't know that either Zander or Sock are town and I've questioned both on the few things that don't make sense to me. But I'm at a point where I need a really good reason from my null, light reads (regardless of whether that's because they become obvious town so the POE shifts or a compelling case (that isn't just Eldrick says odd things sometimes)) to really reconsider Zander/Sock, as for the confidence, mostly driven by the difference between Day 1 and Day 3, by the time I joined Sooh was outside the mafia range I have for her (continued), Zander was outside the mafia range I have for him for the past year (it's been a long time since Matrix/Belichick/Besshydragame now), I don't know what Eldrick's range is, but he's not outside the town meta I have for him (albeit that's out-dated)

 

I don't understand why me trying to resolve my POE is troubling for you?

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Eldrick where does Zander say anything about not wanting reads lists from anyone??? He's been pushing for Cass to come into thread?

Posts like these are what I am talking about. I see no posts where she is trying to figure him out or something. Doesn't seem like town BFG to me

 

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Ok?

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Ok, went through Darthe ISO - he is very, very passive the entire game. Doesn't take a strong stance, tunneling on Sock since the start of the game. Scum Darthe doesn't like to let the game go on its own but wants to steer the lynches. I don't see that intention here. Either he is trying to intentionally change his playstyle or he is bored town. I am thinking latter.

 

Similar observation regarding Sooh. She gets less motivated as scum as the game goes on. This game, she is quite active throughout the game and still intent on solving it. Previous read is stronger now.

 

Cass - While my mind says she logically cannot be scum, I don't like the pushes on sooh and me. Seems to be the easier way to go as scum since the other options are harder. Plus, thinking over it, my logic goes for a toss if she is actually the traitor who cannot co-ordinate with Shad

 

BFG is a conundrum. I don't think I can or ever have read her just by going through her posts. Need some good sense of seeing her votes before getting a read on her. Unfortunately, that is lacking in this game. So, I don't know

 

Dice is also a null. I haven't seen anything off in his posts but not seeing the same motivation I have seen in him as town. I need to ISO him properly. But, Nyn came across as town to me.

 

That leaves Zander who I have talked much so far. There is definitely a wolf in zander/BFG/Dice and I think it is Zander. If cass flips scum, that would clear Zander because I don't see them as w/w at all.

 

The problem is there is only one day of voting pattern that we can analyse effectively and even in that the push was mainly focused on one or two. I am not very confident of my reads frankly

 

 

 

 

Zander (1) - Dice

Sock (1) - Darthe

Not Bob (5) - Marsh, Zander, Random, Shad, Sock

Sock (1) - Not Bob

 

Not voting: Pralaya, Amega, Cass, Calder

 

7 to lynch

The closest alternate train was Sooh, which doesn't exactly say much.

 

So what is your current POE? Zander/Dice/me or Zander/Dice/me/Cass?

[BFG]

Because she assums zander as town and her every post is in that same tone. I haven't seen BFG that fixed on any read

because in that post I wanted Eldrick to explain something he said?