[Advanced]Lost mafia - Game over - Sili, SK wins!

[Sili Quirrels]

it's something about that impartiality combined with fake engagement that i find very wolf-like, and part of me is picking up just that from you and darthe and besie.  And Turin is something different but I should get off my ass and start doing research now.

[Lenlo]

 

 

correction  i went halli seph went besie and shad unvoted   all too late

Yeah, because her timing was just that bad. 

 

Even if it wasnt, what do you want me to do? Consolidate on two people I dont want to lynch today? You say Celeste wasnt getting lynched yet at EoD she was 1 vote away from being in the rand pot.

 

 

if the lynch you want isnt happening? then yes

 

Then theres our differences. 

First off, this is a majority game. Theres little need to consolidate except to stop a random. Its not like my vote was going to stop the lynch.

Second, with the first point in mind. Kiv was leading and was going to be lynched until at the last second she moved. Your whining at me for not consolidating and securing a lynch when she went out of her way to make it a random lynch. In a majority game.

 

Its a stupid argument.

[Shad_]

An unexpected late vote shift for reactions can be productive but not when there is literally no time for reactions.

 

This is why it was bad play as town.

 

It's obviously bad play as a wolf because it puts you in the spotlight for no bloody reason when Hallia could have easily been mislynched on D2 anyway.

 

It's just bad play.

 

Is it scummy or not?

[Lenlo]

An unexpected late vote shift for reactions can be productive but not when there is literally no time for reactions.

 

This is why it was bad play as town.

 

It's obviously bad play as a wolf because it puts you in the spotlight for no bloody reason when Hallia could have easily been mislynched on D2 anyway.

 

It's just bad play.

 

Is it scummy or not?

It was a horrible play regardless of alignment, I believe ive said this before.

 

But I found her list, her reason for voting Kiv, her "Consolidation" beforehand wolfy as well. Which is why this also comes off as wolfy.

[Lenlo]

Shes also playing the inexperienced player card in terms of her town game, yet at the same time playing the experienced wolf card. You cant play both. Yeah, so youve never towned before but youve been on the receiving end of good towns. You know what to do, what to look for how to spot wolves because your supposedly an experienced one.

 

You dont get to play both the experienced and inexperienced cards at the same time.

[Shad_]

Can you show me where she pulled an inexperienced card?

[Lenlo]

Can you show me where she pulled an inexperienced card?

Ill attempt to find quotes, yes.

[Shad_]

Who are your villagers Lenlo?

[Shad_]

 

Can you show me where she pulled an inexperienced card?

Ill attempt to find quotes, yes.

 

If you can even reference whereabouts I can dig it up. There's a 15-20 page chunk of this game that is not registered in my brain.

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People who never expressed interest in voting Kiv, like me and Turin, did not cause Hallias lynch. Thats like saying the doc caused the NK because the protected the wrong person.

 

No, of the people on Hallias train I dare say Besie is one of the most accountable as she had been voting Kiv, had secured Kivs lynch effectively, but then said no.

You could have moved your votes.

 

Im not saying that you are but this line of reasoning we can argue balls and strikes over all day,

Could have, but I made it very clear I wasnt voting Kiv. Made that clear hours before hand. No one could reasonably expect me to move. Besie though had been voting him for hours. 10 seconds before deadline? Unvote go random. Its not just the unvote Z its the timing.

Sure. Blame me for Hallia's VT flip.

 

I trusted her VT claim. Are hou ignoring Kiv's? Do you think he's lying?

You trusted Her VT claim? So you unvote Kiv? Or are you saying to trusted Kivs claim, which was an expected claim btw I dont know why you believe it when its something you should have been expecting him to say the entire time he was being run up.

 

I dont understand why a VT claim is so easy for you to just trust. You went from lynching him to trusting him completely in 1 second flat.

This.

 

I don't get at all how you went from sussing people to trusting them from a VT claim, the most common fake claim by far.

 

 

Probably inexperience.

 

 

 

 

 

He isn't. Who's the other mason?

Thane

I'm cool with that.

 

One of Bessie or Zander is probably a wolf this game btw.  The thing Bessie did at EoD is directly anti-town and her post about affecting her town game to be like her wolf game is actively memorable to me. 

 

 

 

Yes... I thought we'd sorted this out beginning D1. I know how to wolf. I've only wolved up till now. I'm not sure how to town. Apparently, it kinda sucks.

 

Zander knows what I'm like as wolf - he's been there everytime. He has more experience than any of you to know the difference when he sees it.

 

I am town. Imo I prolly won't be NK'd by the scum cause I'm an easy lynch. I might be vigged, if there's one out there that thinks I am scum (you'd be wrong).

 

Hmm... Not as explicit as I thought she had done. Thought she had used it more, but on looking back it wasnt entirely her so its not as bad as I thought.

 

This was the most egregious one I could find though. I ask her why she could believe a VT claim so easily, claim inexperience.

 

In the second one though she says "I know how to wolf. I've only wolved up till now. I'm not sure how to town. Apparently, it kinda sucks.", which is basically the inexperience card.  As I said not as bad as I thought it was, but its still there. Might be some I missed cause I was using key words to search through for rather then rereading every single one of her posts.

[Lenlo]

 

 

Can you show me where she pulled an inexperienced card?

Ill attempt to find quotes, yes.

 

If you can even reference whereabouts I can dig it up. There's a 15-20 page chunk of this game that is not registered in my brain.

 

I just ISOed her then used CTRL+F

 

My villagers? You, Thane, kinda feel good on Sili. Kind feel good on Turin. I felt good about Kiv because of his relation to Bess but hes dead now. Seph I have no idea what to think. Dudes done some work but he was so hyper and just excitable I didnt know what to think. Dice im questionable about.

[Shad_]

Hmm... Not as explicit as I thought she had done. Thought she had used it more, but on looking back it wasnt entirely her so its not as bad as I thought.

 

This was the most egregious one I could find though. I ask her why she could believe a VT claim so easily, claim inexperience.

 

In the second one though she says "I know how to wolf. I've only wolved up till now. I'm not sure how to town. Apparently, it kinda sucks.", which is basically the inexperience card.  As I said not as bad as I thought it was, but its still there. Might be some I missed cause I was using key words to search through for rather then rereading every single one of her posts.

hmmmmyeah, I remembered reading a post earlier that came off to me like she was saying "I'm a great townie" and sort of rolling my eyes because she'd never towned before, which was why I asked. I don't know that it amounts to much though. It's kind of striking in that post how confident she is on Zander's alignment though.

[Lenlo]

Shes overall been really sketchy in how shes played her def. Shes buddying/depending on Zander and trying to get people to follow his read of her. Her treatment of her "Newb town" status in relation to her wolf abilities and such. That EoD

[Lenlo]

 

Hmm... Not as explicit as I thought she had done. Thought she had used it more, but on looking back it wasnt entirely her so its not as bad as I thought.

 

This was the most egregious one I could find though. I ask her why she could believe a VT claim so easily, claim inexperience.

 

In the second one though she says "I know how to wolf. I've only wolved up till now. I'm not sure how to town. Apparently, it kinda sucks.", which is basically the inexperience card.  As I said not as bad as I thought it was, but its still there. Might be some I missed cause I was using key words to search through for rather then rereading every single one of her posts.

hmmmmyeah, I remembered reading a post earlier that came off to me like she was saying "I'm a great townie" and sort of rolling my eyes because she'd never towned before, which was why I asked. I don't know that it amounts to much though. It's kind of striking in that post how confident she is on Zander's alignment though.

 

I can try to find that post as well if you want, the one where she says shes a great townie.

[Shad_]

So many things I need to reread. 

 

Looked at Penny again and I'm still exactly null on her.

[Shad_]

Something about you hasn't felt quite right to me for a while now, but I can't really put my finger on it and you've been heavily engaged and to be honest you're making a good bit of sense.

 

I'd rather lose to wolf!you here than to scum sitting on their arses skating by, at any rate.

[Shad_]

Zander should resolve Nyn's slot for us today.  Hopefully.  Going to be a bit trickier than usual because if scum he has a full phase of town memories to work with but I still think I'll have a good grasp on that slot before EoD.

[Lenlo]

Something about you hasn't felt quite right to me for a while now, but I can't really put my finger on it and you've been heavily engaged and to be honest you're making a good bit of sense.

 

I'd rather lose to wolf!you here than to scum sitting on their arses skating by, at any rate.

Im not a good wolf, dont worry.

 

Can you explain or point out some posts that havnt felt right to you? Id like to work that out so it doesnt become a problem later on. Were both here at the same time right now afterall.

[Shad_]

Darthe and Penny need to step up and they're probably both aware of it.  Nulls only live so long as there are scummy people about.

[Shad_]

 

Something about you hasn't felt quite right to me for a while now, but I can't really put my finger on it and you've been heavily engaged and to be honest you're making a good bit of sense.

 

I'd rather lose to wolf!you here than to scum sitting on their arses skating by, at any rate.

Im not a good wolf, dont worry.

 

Can you explain or point out some posts that havnt felt right to you? Id like to work that out so it doesnt become a problem later on. Were both here at the same time right now afterall.

 

 

It's not individual posts.  Something in the totality of it felt missing and I dunno, maybe it's that you seem so overly focused on a handful of suspects and it hasn't felt like you've engaged the rest of the player base as much as I'd expect.

 

I mean obviously you're here talking to me now and to be frank I feel slightly better about you for it.

[Lenlo]

 

 

Something about you hasn't felt quite right to me for a while now, but I can't really put my finger on it and you've been heavily engaged and to be honest you're making a good bit of sense.

 

I'd rather lose to wolf!you here than to scum sitting on their arses skating by, at any rate.

Im not a good wolf, dont worry.

 

Can you explain or point out some posts that havnt felt right to you? Id like to work that out so it doesnt become a problem later on. Were both here at the same time right now afterall.

 

 

It's not individual posts.  Something in the totality of it felt missing and I dunno, maybe it's that you seem so overly focused on a handful of suspects and it hasn't felt like you've engaged the rest of the player base as much as I'd expect.

 

I mean obviously you're here talking to me now and to be frank I feel slightly better about you for it.

 

Well, to be frank, a good bit of the player base either isnt around during my timezone or at all.

[Shad_]

Also keep in mind my game has been something like gangsta on a cocaine high finds out he's a cave man who just got bludgeoned over the head, wakes up dizzy and jumps back in with all the same wim but half the awareness.

[Lenlo]

Like im taking summer courses and have a job, so my schedules abit weird.

[Shad_]

Well, to be frank, a good bit of the player base either isnt around during my timezone or at all.

Yeah, a lot of people have had bouts of inactivity and I'm not one to talk.

[Shad_]

Like even Eldrick is posting at half his norm and that #1 post count fire was his norm for so long.