MAFIA KART WII [BASIC] - Mafia Sweep

[Sili Quirrels]

[v]zander[/v]

[Zander?]

actually im less confident hallia is a wolf right now just because hallia is known to put next to no effort into her town game as well, but ffs, this is pathetic.

 

lololololol

 

 

Laine is more passive. Less engaged. Focus of her posts seem bent to proving she is town or something.

 

Exam messed me up though so ill just itterate my reads later or something

 

I think Lainey's been pretty engaged much more so then others. 

 

And Town telling is pretty important for either role wouldnt you say?

 

 

 

All my reads have reasons as ive shown again and again and again zander. Youre being terribly silly.

 

You are correct you do have reasons, they are just dont make any sense to me and I disagree with them.

 

I dont know how Im being silly please explain?

[Sili Quirrels]

Ate is a wolf tell by the way. On the whole when its used as a placeholder it is.

[Sili Quirrels]

Whats the problem with disagreeing with reads zander. Explain?

[Sili Quirrels]

Like for 8 games or so my reads have been pretty spot on. Even though im messed up emotionally i can assess that if my reads do not make sense to you it is not my problem.

[Sili Quirrels]

And by the way since when does disagreement matter at all.

[Zander?]

Zanders a wolf.

 

 

I was being silly townreading him i bet. Ffs.

 

 

[v]zander[/v]

 

wait theres a term for this...

 

MOGUS?

 

No

 

SMOGU

 

No....

 

oh ya

 

OMGUS

[Sili Quirrels]

Check this game and last game and youll see a difference in how engaged she is. pretty sure anyway. Idk.

 

But i think thats where my head is at. I dont judge by volume. I judge by something more intrinsic like emotion and thought process.

[Sili Quirrels]

Well yeah. Youre being too erroneous to be town Z. Why are you suspecting me because you disagree with me. Thats backwards

[Zander?]

Whats the problem with disagreeing with reads zander. Explain?

 

Its not just disagreeing with the reads, its also youre reasoning behind them.

 

 

Ate is a wolf tell by the way. On the whole when its used as a placeholder it is.

 

Not saying its not just a wolf tell Town does it too.

 

I did it in Shad's game, and ive used it as Scum to try and make a case with it.

 

I dont think that in itself or it being the majority of the reason is valid especially when what its about is actually true.

[Sili Quirrels]

Its about half the reason. Maybe one third lol.

[Sili Quirrels]

Why does it matter if you disagree with my reasons zander? Huh?

[Zander?]

Like for 8 games or so my reads have been pretty spot on. Even though im messed up emotionally i can assess that if my reads do not make sense to you it is not my problem.

 

im sure they have.  I make pretty good reads too mostly.

 

Doesnt mean either one of us is right or wrong here.

 

So whats your point?

 

 

Well yeah. Youre being too erroneous to be town Z. Why are you suspecting me because you disagree with me. Thats backwards

 

Ive answered this already, and I havent even given you a Scum read becuase I know you think differently then I do.

 

Im trying to see why youre coming to those conclusions/reads and seeing if that makes sense to me.

 

I mean its my job to figure out everyone's alignment is it not?

 

I havent even read you as Scum yet Im just trying to see where youre coming from.

 

Youre being awfully defensive imo.

[Sili Quirrels]

This is so inane. Personality conflict oneoone but still it kills me inside. It does not in the slightest matter if you agree with my reasons. Do i believe them?

[Sili Quirrels]

Id say its pretty obvious that i do just from the skeleton of my posts and my eagerness to defend them but idk.

[Zander?]

Why does it matter if you disagree with my reasons zander? Huh?

 

Are you really asking me this?

 

Im trying to determine if reads are a push or genuine casing.

 

This is pretty basic stuff man.

 

People can be wrong, I dont have to agree with your reads to make me think youre Town but I have to understand where theyre coming from.

 

Youve flip flopped a lot this game and Im trying to make sense of it.

[Sili Quirrels]

Sorry z. Ill be on my feat after grub or sleep whichever comes first.

[Zander?]

This is so inane. Personality conflict oneoone but still it kills me inside. It does not in the slightest matter if you agree with my reasons. Do i believe them?

 

I dont know thats what im trying to figure out

[Sili Quirrels]

Of course uts genuine. U dont need to understand the logic to see that.

[Sili Quirrels]

U also didnt object to ate being a wolf tell so you clearly see where im coming from. Honestly dont understand anymire

[Zander?]

Sorry z. Ill be on my feat after grub or sleep whichever comes first.

 

Fair enough Im gonna watch my shows and try to sleep as well.

 

Not trying to be rude or harsh man just trying to figure things out.

 

Sorry if it came across that way, certainly wasnt my intention man.

[Sili Quirrels]

Red tears

[Zander?]

U also didnt object to ate being a wolf tell so you clearly see where im coming from. Honestly dont understand anymire

 

I know I didnt and I said that the first time you mentioned it.

 

But its not ONLY wolves that use it.  And that was a big part of your ISO/reasoning for voting Hallia.

 

I also dont have a problem with the AtE in this instance because I know Hallia was telling the truth about vacation.

[Sili Quirrels]

Shrug.

 

Will p go back to laine cause i thought through the pov of hallias post i objected to and laine responded like she was town.

[Clovdyx]

Let's do a Hallia iso in full.

 

 

His logic is terrible. He is certainly not on my town list.

this isn't in order, but let's put it like this, when hallia is conflating AtE with reads, it's a lazy way to make reads.

 

i assume she did the same for celeste though it goes unmentioned.

 

Awww, Calder hi Liz!

 

I don't think Calder does that as scum.

don't know what she's talking about to be honest. perhaps someone can fill me in. still this is obviously trivial analysis. strikes me as either tmi or posturing.

 

Oh my gooooosh. So many posts. -.-

 

Parts are making my eyes glaze on mobile, but Celeste's response to pressure is one thing that stood out to me, read as kind of defensive

lazy read. super easy to make as either alignment. insubstantive. means nothing.

 

I AM ON VACATION IN A PLACE WITH NO WIFI AND SPOTTY INTERNET. For some reason I thought we had longer before the start. I have said I can play as often as possible. That you're trying to use that to vote for me is silly.

AtE.

 

I think between her and Celeste, that Celeste looked scummier. I would lean slight town for now.

compares liz to celeste, and to paraphrase says celeste looks worse so liz is slight town.

 

only works this way if you are very confident celeste is a wolf because you are detecting spew.

 

this 'confidence' however is not clear in the statement. celeste looks like an easier catch, so she'll town read the other one.

 

Catching up, I have a town read on Seph and Darthe and Liz. Still scummy on Celeste. You don't believe me that I'm on vacation, I don't really care. I will ask for replacement since it seems to be unacceptable to some of you that I'm not CONSTANTLY here.

AtE. sounds exaggerated.

 

 

I would like to stay and play, but I dont want to be called a liar.

AtE

 

I don't know what you mean by posturing in response to her claim that Calder wouldn't do something as mafia (I think I remember some sort of discussion about it being related to the song, though that might have been somebody else).  I think her saying he would or wouldn't do anything is pretty ridiculous, given his playstyle, though I'm not sure how much they've played together.  I know Hallia was in his first game on the forum's, where he claimed scum - with her, actually, and I'm 99% sure she was in GnD.  

 

I think you're flat out wrong that she would need to have a strong read on Celeste to make that associative read if she believes that Liz looks better from the exchange.  If I'm reading you null, but I think somebody else made themselves look better than you did, that pretty much means I think they're at least PROBABLY town.  

 

Think you're reaching on at least calling a couple of those AtE, though I'm not particularly fond of them myself...

 

 

tl;dr majority of hallia's posts are AtE. Sometimes she mixes AtE with making reads. Her reads are insubstantive. One read in particular, on celste, is inconsistent with the notion a villager needs to find a villager because they're acting villagery, not because they're debating with someone you think is scummy.

 

 

 

tl;dr majority of hallia's posts are AtE. Sometimes she mixes AtE with making reads. Her reads are insubstantive. One read in particular, on celste, is inconsistent with the notion a villager needs to find a villager because they're acting villagery, not because they're debating with someone you think is scummy.

 

 

 

Yes it does matter.

 

And have you typically read Hallia well?

 

I dont recall your read on her in Frozen where you were Town and she was Scum.

 

Your reason for voting her wasnt that iirc.  Can you quote where she did this and you mentioning it at the time please?

 

Well you got your answer. Congrats.

 

Now accept it please. This is silly. Just because you don't get 'why' exactly doesn't mean I have a perfectly valid reason.

 

I am not asking you to weigh my read on zev. I mentioned my read out of the goodness of my heart.

 

I isod her. read. agree or disagree?

 

 

I dont like the answer.

 

No I wont.

 

You should have reasons for reads imo.  I mean were 40 pages in now,

 

I dont wanna sound rude so dont jump down my throat but I think your ISO on her is terrible.

 

AtE doesnt MEAN Scummy for sure.  Especially when you factor in what Penny said about her lying when shes mentioned this before the game. So some of us know its true.  Hallia is an emotional player and a person in general

 

Im not sold on Liz and Celeste being v/v atp I am sold on them not being w/w tho.  So I have np with Hallia's point there.

 

 

Sili has been giving reads for his reads pretty consistently IMO, so I'm not sure where you're going with that.  I'm not going to say his reasons have necessarily been the most concrete things, or even that I agree with them...but he's been pretty open about giving his thoughts.  I think at this point it's on you to decide if you think he's right or wrong, and if he's wrong, why he wrong?  

 

Your point about Hallia being an emotional player is pretty true, though, and I would expect Sili to know that.  I have to assume that they've played together a couple times by now, though I really have no idea if that's true or not.