Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[Eldrick4221]

I'd also like to point out that somewhere along the way I apparently moved Sili to town. I guess once I got past the vote changes at the beginning as just him being him, I didn't have a problem with him anymore.

[Niniel]

Did an iso of Verbal´s posts. I get that he missed a lot being away the first weekend but I expected him to start playing more on D2. Nothing of what I have seen looks like mafia hunting. Poking at Cory, then backing down, poking at Mish, then backing down (not that any of that seemed serious from the beginning either). Now he will be gone another weekend. 

 

I´ll move Verb down to red. 

 

 

Will soon answer Leelou.

[Eldrick4221]

As a whole, though, I haven't had a problem with Lenlo. I'm wary of him, and will gladly help if other people see what I'm seeing. But I think Verb is the better choice today. I'm just thoroughly unimpressed with his game so far. He's a good player, and should be solving the game by now.

 

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[v]Verb [/v]

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

Ok JS. Thank you for responding and clearing that up.

 

Lenlo, it's bugging me that even though you are still mentioning that I'm your top scum pick, you aren't pushing a case to convince other people. I pushed for you to explain, and you're avoiding it.

 

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[v]Lenlo[/v]

I still think Lenlo is town. But can't really say this vote is worse than ocicat, so I guess the best we can say about your record is it is fully entropic. -_-

I voted lenlo because of how he is going about his read of me. When I asked him why he was scum reading me, he just brushed it aside. He didn't answer until I pressured with a vote.

 

I also don't like that he pointed out where I was on Cory's list, if he was going to be looking elsewhere, like he said he would.

 

It's reminding me of when Notbob kept pushing for my lynch, even though he wouldn't explain why. It's not the same situation. Lenlo at least is giving reasons.

 

And I still think Ocicat is scum. He hasn't been as bad as he was mid Day 1, but he hasn't convinced me to change my read either. Why do you think he's town?

 

I pointed something out that made me 90% confident he was town or loki. it's somewhere in my iso, and i imagine i will come across it again during my reread.

[Sili Quirrels]

As a whole, though, I haven't had a problem with Lenlo. I'm wary of him, and will gladly help if other people see what I'm seeing. But I think Verb is the better choice today. I'm just thoroughly unimpressed with his game so far. He's a good player, and should be solving the game by now.

 

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[v]Verb [/v]

oh! so now everyone hops on the verb train after i've pursued other avenues. lol.

[Eldrick4221]

Oh.It might just me being paranoid, but when JS suggested Loki was a nexus, it made me wonder if JS was Loki. Nexus didn't even occur to me, and it fits, I mean REALLY fits, the theme.

[Eldrick4221]

 

As a whole, though, I haven't had a problem with Lenlo. I'm wary of him, and will gladly help if other people see what I'm seeing. But I think Verb is the better choice today. I'm just thoroughly unimpressed with his game so far. He's a good player, and should be solving the game by now.

 

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[v]Verb [/v]

oh! so now everyone hops on the verb train after i've pursued other avenues. lol.

 

I said Day 1 I was gonna give him time. I did, and he didn't impress :P

[Eldrick4221]

Did an iso of Verbal´s posts. I get that he missed a lot being away the first weekend but I expected him to start playing more on D2. Nothing of what I have seen looks like mafia hunting. Poking at Cory, then backing down, poking at Mish, then backing down (not that any of that seemed serious from the beginning either). Now he will be gone another weekend. 

 

I´ll move Verb down to red. 

 

 

Will soon answer Leelou.

And you're not voting him because?

[Sili Quirrels]

this message is for loki.

 

 

 

town is down three power roles. we don't know how many we have left, but if too many of us die mafia will come for you. therefore i think it is in your best interest to help us. you needn't kill scum, but failing scum, try to cross off players who are in our poe. I believe this to be in our mutual best interest.

 

[Eldrick4221]

Grr. Spoilers again. I sooooo wanna know what you're talking about.

[Niniel]

 

Did an iso of Verbal´s posts. I get that he missed a lot being away the first weekend but I expected him to start playing more on D2. Nothing of what I have seen looks like mafia hunting. Poking at Cory, then backing down, poking at Mish, then backing down (not that any of that seemed serious from the beginning either). Now he will be gone another weekend. 

 

I´ll move Verb down to red. 

 

 

Will soon answer Leelou.

And you're not voting him because?

 

 

Because I´m voting Oci. Still only have one vote. 

[Eldrick4221]

Oh. Lenlo. Critique to your playing style. When you posted Talya's ISO, I didn't know you also had comments in the spoilers until they were commented on later. I skipped the spoilers on my initial read, because I assumed they were just her posts, and I wasn't current yet.

 

In the future, please make this more clear. I am just now getting to these.

[Eldrick4221]

Responding now to your question about her response to her thinking Sili's and Sooh's early interactions were 'staged'

 

I don't see it as an overreaction. Her answer was short too. She just also explained how she plays, which I found insightful, and helped explain why she said what she did.

[Eldrick4221]

^@ Lenlo if that wasn't obvious.

[Sili Quirrels]

Grr. Spoilers again. I sooooo wanna know what you're talking about.

Kill Verbal/Celeste tonight Eldrick, if you have that power that is.

[Sili Quirrels]

In exchange I won't point out how insincere your post was.

[Niniel]

Did an iso of Leelou and will try to do my best to say why I think she is mafia. It´s nothing new (at least not much) but since it doesn´t seem to be clear. 

 

 

1. Leelou voted Cory because he said mafia might have had a qt for days. When Verb asks if it was a possible TMI she agreed. It´s a week vote. She agrees with that later when she says she was just trolling him.

 

2. Then she unvotes him after asking Verb if Cory is town or not. 

 

3. She said she wanted to clear Cory early. 

 

4. Later she said to me that she unvoted him because she has figured out how to read Cory.

 

So it was a week vote from the beginning. She says she has now figured out how to read Cory but in fact she relied on Verb reading him. And then she cleared him. That easy. (I don´t think was even a good read since Cory has acted that way earlier as non town but I´m not sure Leelou played that game.)It sounded fake from the beginning to the end.  

 

 

After this she followed Cory on Pral because she dislikes inactives. Her vote stayed because his list was meh and later she disliked that he wasn´t voting. Many voted Pral so I can´t hold this against her.

 

But she mentioned being happy voting me as well. When Cory asked what she thought of me she said that she had just been skimming but something felt off about me. Since I was the only one focusing on me it really looks like an omgus. 

 

Today she says that she dislikes that I don´t vote her and that I just arbitrary decided she is scum. Which is not true. Has she focused on anyone else today, someone that hasn´t suspected her? No. 

[Niniel]

 

 

Wonderful photo. Happy anniversary!

 

@ Tina I'm not getting the strong towny vibe I got from you in another game, and that's disappointing. You haven't done anything scummy either, though, so I still have you as null. I don't get the feeling from you of trying to solve the game, just relying on "catch up posts", so that's a point against you.

 

I don´t know how to describe my own playstyle, I guess others will do it better, but I will give it a try.

 

1. I´m unfortunately often inactive in some part of the game in a lot of games that I play (maybe half of them?). That has to do with me having a mental illness. If too much happens in rl I can´t cope with a game as well. I always say that this shouldn´t be used against me or as a defense, because it is what it is.

 

2. Earlier I was more quiet as mafia. I have tried to change that but I think I have become more quiet as town instead. :(

 

3. In those game that I´m not very active I post my catch up posts, say who I think is scummy and then vote. 

 

4. When I have more time I try to quote stuff to show better why I think as I think.

 

5. I rarely ask people question in the way that I try to trick people or making smart moves. I´m really not that intelligent. lol I´m more straight forward. This is what I think and then people need to say why I´m wrong.

 

 

Ehm... am I correct? That is how I see it anyway. 

[Eldrick4221]

In exchange I won't point out how insincere your post was.

 

I was sincerely annoyed at spoilers being used for private information. Commented on this already.

[Niniel]

Mostly a copy of my old but moving Verbal down. 

 

Mish

 

Tress

 

Taborline

Sili 

 

Eldrick - I need to take a look at Eldrick. His behaviour today made him look town but I haven´t any memory about what he did yesterday.

Talya - I had a town read on Talya yesterday but need to look her up again because I don´t remember much about what she did in the later part of yesterday. 

Snow - Just like Talya. 

Lenlo - Because everyone seems to town read him. And I haven´t seen anything scummy. 

 

 

Sooh - I have really no memory of her posts what so ever. Update: Too neutral - D1 uncertaintly or trying to stay in the middle? 

 

 

Oci - The one I want to lynch the most. 

Leelou 

Wish/Celeste - I should take a look at their list once again.

Verbal

[Niniel]

 

In exchange I won't point out how insincere your post was.

 

I was sincerely annoyed at spoilers being used for private information. Commented on this already.

 

 

Yes, those are just silly. 

[Niniel]

Time for lunch. I´ll try to post more later. Depends on bf. 

[Eldrick4221]

Don't have an issue with your playstyle, Tina. We all have our own approach to the game, and reasons for said approach.

 

There have been games in the past that you were obviously town to me. This isn't one of them.

 

I do like what you noticed about Leelou, though. Put together like that, it sounds like she knew Cory's alignment...

[Leelou]

Did an iso of Leelou and will try to do my best to say why I think she is mafia. It´s nothing new (at least not much) but since it doesn´t seem to be clear. 

 

 

1. Leelou voted Cory because he said mafia might have had a qt for days. When Verb asks if it was a possible TMI she agreed. It´s a week vote. She agrees with that later when she says she was just trolling him.

 

2. Then she unvotes him after asking Verb if Cory is town or not. 

 

3. She said she wanted to clear Cory early. 

 

4. Later she said to me that she unvoted him because she has figured out how to read Cory.

 

So it was a week vote from the beginning. She says she has now figured out how to read Cory but in fact she relied on Verb reading him. And then she cleared him. That easy. (I don´t think was even a good read since Cory has acted that way earlier as non town but I´m not sure Leelou played that game.)It sounded fake from the beginning to the end.  

 

 

After this she followed Cory on Pral because she dislikes inactives. Her vote stayed because his list was meh and later she disliked that he wasn´t voting. Many voted Pral so I can´t hold this against her.

 

But she mentioned being happy voting me as well. When Cory asked what she thought of me she said that she had just been skimming but something felt off about me. Since I was the only one focusing on me it really looks like an omgus. 

 

Today she says that she dislikes that I don´t vote her and that I just arbitrary decided she is scum. Which is not true. Has she focused on anyone else today, someone that hasn´t suspected her? No. 

 

To the bold - I did not. Go back and look at that sequence again. Before Verb even posted I had said Cory was town. 

 

To the underlined - I'm reading up now, but I've said a few times over and over again I won't really be around until Sunday. I ISO'd you on Friday when I had 5 mins since you only had 23 posts. 

[Sili Quirrels]

No where did I say the spoiler was private above. If eldrick was serious about looking for loki as he was at the start of the game, he would have opened the spoiler and read, but instead he pretends to not have read it to avoid suspicion. Maybe he thought, 'if I don't open this then how can I be loki?' I would not be shocked.

 

Anyway, I don't want to risk a lynch for loki, unless he or she outs themselves, so nothing has changed in this regard, but please note that I seriously suspect eldrick is a third party.

 

Moving onward,

 

Tina, why in god's name are mish and tress above me?