Belichick - Mafia Eternal Night

BFG · July 25, 2015

I think we no lynch today and hope Zander makes it on thread tomorrow. I don't really like that option since the thread is stalling anyway, but I don't know if there's a 'good' alternative.

If Zander's town and doesn't show/vote I don't see a way for town to win as things stand.

BFG · July 25, 2015

Lol timing, I'll hang around and talk to Sili some more. Hope Zander shows up.

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

Looks like we wait a night.

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

Bad dice.

BFG · July 25, 2015

It was a joke. >_>

All wolves have to die for a town win.

Not a joke. A test.

Because GOOD is DUMB!

Talya and Zander are officially welcomed to my village pile.

???? I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying that just because they sheeped a stupid idea that they're town?

Also, I'm curious where you people find these gifs lol

Ok so Talya already flipped mafia, I don't think that means Zander has to as well.

Are you saying that just because they sheeped a stupid idea that they're town?
Pretty much. They saw a mathematical solution that resulted in a game solve and just went with it. Scum would be like - step back. What? They can't win like this, right?

Also, I'm curious where you people find these gifs lol
There are these two great sites worth checking out. Not sure if you've heard of the but one is www.google.com and the other is www.yahoo.com.

I remember lots of movie quotes. So I googled "good is dumb." That easy.

Well technically we have to kill all the wolves, as Shad and Andrej pointed out, I believe.

Second part: only responses I can think of require words that violate DM's code of conduct. Though now that I think of it, everything's probably giffed at this point. Meh

@Talya: Same, but I think I said last game that Andrej as town isn't always town town. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Well technically we have to kill all the wolves, as Shad and Andrej pointed out, I believe.
Doesn't make Talya or Zander less Town.

I'll trust you on Talya then, I can never read her; it's extremely frustrating. As for Zander, I have no doubts he's town.

What does your test say for Shad and Andrej though?

Remains neutral (sort of) on Talia, but firm town on Zander

Yates's test pretty null for me personally. Not really alignment indicative for him even if it was a little hokey.
Still confirmed Yates is weird. Neither Zander nor Shad have been mafia before, so he can't know how either would play based on that, nor what their responses would be as town/mafia.

Disagree.

There's no way scum Zander [or Talya] hops in the thread, sees my post, and just runs with it rather than going in to his QT to say, "WTF Guys?! Is he right? Can we not win this?"

You're right about Shad. I have no idea how he would react. All I know is he didn't bite. So it means nothing for him because he took the time to figure out the hole in my logic. And that is NOT alignment indicative. Which is what I said. Means nothing for him or AJ. Clears Zander and Talya FOR ME.

You can disagree but I don't care what you think [and I don't mean that in a disparaging way]. I won't be voting for or viging Zander or Talya all game.

I suppose I just don't take much stock in your test, which is fine. Guess it doesn't really matter though.

Ftr, getting town reads on Zander, Shad; town leans on Yates, Andrej; everyone else is null/undecided

Yates's test pretty null for me personally. Not really alignment indicative for him even if it was a little hokey.
Still confirmed Yates is weird. Neither Zander nor Shad have been mafia before, so he can't know how either would play based on that, nor what their responses would be as town/mafia.

Disagree.

There's no way scum Zander [or Talya] hops in the thread, sees my post, and just runs with it rather than going in to his QT to say, "WTF Guys?! Is he right? Can we not win this?"

You're right about Shad. I have no idea how he would react. All I know is he didn't bite. So it means nothing for him because he took the time to figure out the hole in my logic. And that is NOT alignment indicative. Which is what I said. Means nothing for him or AJ. Clears Zander and Talya FOR ME.

You can disagree but I don't care what you think [and I don't mean that in a disparaging way]. I won't be voting for or viging Zander or Talya all game.

I suppose I just don't take much stock in your test, which is fine. Guess it doesn't really matter though.

Ftr, getting town reads on Zander, Shad; town leans on Yates, Andrej; everyone else is null/undecided

Its like Alanna can see directly into my soul!!!!

Meh

Unfortunately I can, Zander. Thoughts on other players?

Theres not much to go on but Im feeling good On Yates. Finding him way more into the game and he's just Yatesing.(tm pending)

Like AJ tone much better

Alanna is always mayor in my town!

Only one kinda pinging me in the least is Talya can't quite put my finger on it.

Not sire if Laine 'read' here is a joke or serious :/

i find all the football talk quite distracting..... must be me, i guess.

I doubt we'll see either Verb or Pral this weekend (verb is never on and Pral doesn't do D1 i guess).

No real suspect from my part at the moment, but i'll try to check a bit more tomorrow.

*hands more booze around*

it's weekend after all

Verb/Pral thing here probably in response to Darthe mentioning everyone had checked in except them.

Second mention of no suspects? No reads at all?

for the moment, Zander is the only one i trust here. I can always Vig him if he betrays me in another game.

As for Verb and Pral, they'd be 0 info lynches. Would be nice to wreck some wolves without too much town casualties this game, and we'd need to gather info to do so, right?

I'll be coming and going this weekend, depending on how the kids want to spend their time *nods*

I don't get the bolded at all

Well who would have figured on July 4th nowhere would be open? I really really wanted Asian food of some sort but all closed. At least I have booze. I'll just make a pizza

Thane always pings a little. I would feel bad lynching him though after Star Wars

???

I know this is mentioned a lot

Why? He was scum in Star Wars
He's pinging but not the same way. I wasn't even sure he was mafia last game until I got the guilty read, so there's that. I'm less sure this time, but could probably use more time to see.

(would feel bad even if scum because I don't like pushing the same lynches-- makes me feel like a terrible person lol)

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

first name that immeadiately popped to my mind was thane.

id probably go with that instinct but note that it was instinct

Are you sounding off thanes name because i am in the thread, or has something tilted you?

BFG · July 25, 2015

It's 3am, this isn't happening tonight

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Just rereading for overall summarizing, wanted to get a feel for the topics that have been brought up in the game so far

pg 1-2 all rollover from the last game

pg 2-6 I'm getting voted (Shad, Hally, Yates) for disliking normal things; this is where Shad comes in with his town read of BFG after Andrej asks

pg 6-8 Sports talk??

pg 7-9 Vig talk: holding +ev for town (started by Yates/AJ)

pg 10 a lot of spam

pg 11-13 Yates and his "no lynch" plan that he clears Zander/Talya for; really don't like Thane's post #260, which Andrej and Zander point out as well; I mention he's pinging but differently than in Star Wars; Also don't like the post quoted below

pg 14-15 July 4th, revisiting Shad's reasoning

for the moment, Zander is the only one i trust here. I can always Vig him if he betrays me in another game.

As for Verb and Pral, they'd be 0 info lynches. Would be nice to wreck some wolves without too much town casualties this game, and we'd need to gather info to do so, right?

I'll be coming and going this weekend, depending on how the kids want to spend their time *nods*

I'm all for clearing Zander already, but why bring up Verb and Pral like we're going to lynch them? They haven't even made a post yet in the game. Feels like a weird thing to mention. Second sentence in the underlined is odd too, it seems like you want an info lynch more than a wolf lynch. But you bring up Verb and Pral as if they're on the table.

<3 Shad

I'm so down

LEAVE ALANNA ALONEEEEEE

Thank youuuuu

@Laine - Disappoint because you're bashing on my favorite beverage
Maybe a little bashing. I also don't like chocolate ice cream, tomatoes, oranges (they make my skin break out), cherries, watermelon, and an assortment of other random things including people and going outside.

This plus bacon and anything smoked or grilled and you have listed my favorite things. Die, scum.

I LOVE BACON

Mostly the things I don't like are because of consistency or acidity. Thinks like oranges and tomatoes literally give me rashes. Anything too seedy also makes me squirmish

obviously crawling for town cred

unvote vote LAine

Dice how is that helping at all? Do you have actual points to make?

goodmorning all *has coffee and distributes where necessary*

Alanna: i tend to ping all the time, it has gotten me mislynched quite a few times. But it's how i play. If someone townreads me D1, that player is suspicious to me.

BFG: Happy to see you! Very nice entrance. I noticed you saw me mentioning Verb and Pral and me not wanting to lynch them. I don't, they need to play first. As far as lynching goes: the prime suspect would give most information, and personally i don't feel like there's a lot of diffirence between lynching a likely wolf and an infolynch. After all: you lynch suspects to get to a wolf, all the time.

Dice: wow, didn't think you would be in. and some post it is.... interesting.

goodmorning all *has coffee and distributes where necessary*

Alanna: i tend to ping all the time, it has gotten me mislynched quite a few times. But it's how i play. If someone townreads me D1, that player is suspicious to me.

BFG: Happy to see you! Very nice entrance. I noticed you saw me mentioning Verb and Pral and me not wanting to lynch them. I don't, they need to play first. As far as lynching goes: the prime suspect would give most information, and personally i don't feel like there's a lot of diffirence between lynching a likely wolf and an infolynch. After all: you lynch suspects to get to a wolf, all the time.

Dice: wow, didn't think you would be in. and some post it is.... interesting.

Thane already getting BFG and me mixed up ITT?

Just a light fos for now Thane, give me some good reads?

^ this was going to be my second point. I feel like I sometimes understand Andrej. Other times I want to kick him in the head.

That's not very nice.

Roll over feelings from Star Wars. Deal with it.

alanna: i did? oh..sorry... been another sleepless night and my brain's not working the way it should. I'll try not to post before i had a large dose of coffee in the future.

i'll try to get something out today, depending on wether or not my kids will let me.

Whatcha thinking Andrej?

Like I said, mostly a hunch. I don't really understand his progression on BFG or the explanation he provided.

It also seems that he's more off topic than not (he isn't the only guilty one of this) but there have been places in the game where I feel like opportunities were there to make observations and he didn't. For instance, the Yates test and the Thane posts a few of us have commented on. I don't remember him saying anything about these and instead he's telling us about his house. Which is great and all but doesn't catch wolves.

Chatty because football and awesome explosions outside and I know some of you now.

Wolf Thane in Star Wars literally repeated the same four observations he made in the first 24 hours up until the moment he was lynched, while taking every opportunity to push things off topic. He's already put out as much meaningful content as he did that entire game, and that's pretty promising. I think if he's town it will become pretty obvious with time.

Talya's reaction to the no vote argument was promising. She seemed to take it seriously and hop on board. I can't give Zander a pass for it. I think there's a decent chance he thought it was an obvious joke just like I did and played along. I mean even if the rules did permit Yates' approach, it's not like we'd be granted a free win. They'd be modified accordingly. I think if Zander took it seriously he'd have investigated and seen that it was wrong, so null on his reply.

Yates test looks great for Talya because I think she sincerely bought it.

So basically anyone who is NOT a 9ers fan is obv wolf imo!!!

Dice how is that helping at all? Do you have actual points to make?

ooohh did I just touch a nerve? Im thinking I did.

You didn't hit a nerve Dice, it's just that I already received three votes for not liking things, and then you hop in on a vote when we're actually discussing the game in the thread, when you could be adding to what we're saying. That looks worse on you than on me, imo.

no harm done

dice feels ... snipy/agressive ? Not sure what to make of that.

lets look at this. Have I been here? No. Is that my first post on return? YES. Could it have been a joke while i was catching up? YES.

Did you react badly? YES.

Dice feels hungover and tired Thane. Dice was joking and Alanna bit him Thane. So Dice got annoyed and more sure he may have found scum Thane

If it counts for anything I've been drinking all night. Your entrance and timing were poorly done Dice

interesting. I mentioned it because it's quite unusual for you to do things like that (in my opinion). We'll see where this will lead *nods* not bad, dice, not bad.

So what DO you think Dice?

after your reaction i think you are mafia

for the rest its been mostly fluff tho I took note of AJs gut and Yates test.

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

I think we no lynch today and hope Zander makes it on thread tomorrow. I don't really like that option since the thread is stalling anyway, but I don't know if there's a 'good' alternative.

If Zander's town and doesn't show/vote I don't see a way for town to win as things stand.

We lynch Zander, hope wolves don't have a bullet, and reevaluate at f3.

BFG · July 25, 2015

I think we no lynch today and hope Zander makes it on thread tomorrow. I don't really like that option since the thread is stalling anyway, but I don't know if there's a 'good' alternative.

If Zander's town and doesn't show/vote I don't see a way for town to win as things stand.

We lynch Zander, hope wolves don't have a bullet, and reevaluate at f3.

I dunno, technically it's now night. If Zander doesn't show Day 8 then I don't see much of a choice. But mafia almost certainly have a shot left :/

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

I think we no lynch today and hope Zander makes it on thread tomorrow. I don't really like that option since the thread is stalling anyway, but I don't know if there's a 'good' alternative.

If Zander's town and doesn't show/vote I don't see a way for town to win as things stand.

We lynch Zander, hope wolves don't have a bullet, and reevaluate at f3.

I dunno, technically it's now night. If Zander doesn't show Day 8 then I don't see much of a choice. But mafia almost certainly have a shot left :/

Is there a world where you don't vote me over Dice?

seph · July 25, 2015

It is night.... sorry guys, I fell asleep like thirty mins before deadline lol.

BFG · July 25, 2015

I think we no lynch today and hope Zander makes it on thread tomorrow. I don't really like that option since the thread is stalling anyway, but I don't know if there's a 'good' alternative.

If Zander's town and doesn't show/vote I don't see a way for town to win as things stand.

We lynch Zander, hope wolves don't have a bullet, and reevaluate at f3.

I dunno, technically it's now night. If Zander doesn't show Day 8 then I don't see much of a choice. But mafia almost certainly have a shot left :/

Is there a world where you don't vote me over Dice?

No

Dice was the one that took the time to re-evaluate Zander Day 5

He could have voted Zander yesterday if mafia, I'd probably followed

Laine had none m/m interaction in as much as I can read these things.

Mostly I've liked his posting.

If he was mafia he could have won twice over by now

I'm not sure I vote Zander over you atm

This is now the third time I've felt you or Thane aren't expecting a final shot, although I can't find the other posts that made me feel that right now. There are two quotes in the stuff above where Thane seems to chainsaw defend Laine against Dice... Laine has some strange interactions with Thane as well, including the permanent null read, which is Talya's early read as well, and the SW comment...

Day 2 there was something I thought from Laine that didn't feel m/m with Zander, and the stuff that makes me doubt him is ~probably down to his absence.

I also trust Dice's instinct over my reads at the moment, since my reads have been massively off all game :sad:

I will finish rereading though. Make your cases?

BFG · July 25, 2015

EBWOP *at the moment 'no'

BFG · July 25, 2015

If you're town, kind of really need you to fight at this point! If you're mafia carry on :)

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

Kind of tempted to let this town lose.

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

Anyway. Dices instincts have always been rand. It seems this time he is saying thanes name as a sound off. Its moronic to take him seriously.

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

I am 50/50 wolf has a shot. I dont have enough info. Wolf is 90% zander. If dice was a wolf most of the time he would vote zander (if he had a shot). That he did not means he is town or he does not have a shot.

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

So basically i know that if we lynch zamder either the game ends or there is a day 8 unless dice is uh playing very safe. *shrug

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

Excuse me a day nine... Not eight

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

So what DO you think Dice?

after your reaction i think you are mafia

for the rest its been mostly fluff tho I took note of AJs gut and Yates test.

More t/t interaction.

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

Good morning Talya, BFG

Talya, I pointed out a few of Thanes posts, but haven't commented on liking any of them, other than conversation. I'm okay leaving him in null still until I can read him better.

@BFG: Zander and Shad are acting the same as usual, so I'm pretty comfortable reading them both as town. I really don't see either as being mafia here; I feel like there would be a change in their play that I haven't seen as of yet.

Yates and AJ are just gut, I suppose, not really sure on them but I'm leaning that way from their interactions I've seen in the thread.

i get the feeling that we're still missing a few players..... hopefully they will get in before DL

i contemplate voting Yates... he rands wolf way too often, so it'd be an excellent D1 guess imo

According to the CCSOWH if Yates looks towny D1 ignore him if not,,,,,,,,lolololol

Yates actually looking more towny thus far then in SW imo.

Agreed. Need more time to figure him out though. Remember, if he claims mason, we lynch him immediately.

I don't like Thane's comment

This is the first post you say you don't like his comments

Unfortunately I can, Zander. Thoughts on other players?

Theres not much to go on but Im feeling good On Yates. Finding him way more into the game and he's just Yatesing.(tm pending)

Like AJ tone much better

Alanna is always mayor in my town!

Only one kinda pinging me in the least is Talya can't quite put my finger on it.

Try! Odd comment from no where



for the moment, Zander is the only one i trust here. I can always Vig him if he betrays me in another game.

As for Verb and Pral, they'd be 0 info lynches. Would be nice to wreck some wolves without too much town casualties this game, and we'd need to gather info to do so, right?

I'll be coming and going this weekend, depending on how the kids want to spend their time *nods*



Well who would have figured on July 4th nowhere would be open? I really really wanted Asian food of some sort but all closed. At least I have booze. I'll just make a pizza

Thane always pings a little. I would feel bad lynching him though after Star Wars


So he pings a little but would feel bad after SW game Why. He was wolf there, why would you feel bad here

Shad - can you explain the town read on BFG?
On a phone so I can't easily quote right now, but it's all on page 4. Basically similar to Yates' approach to Talya and Zander--I created an opportunity for what I felt would be a towny observation and she took the bait. She pointed out something that I noticed but that I don't think the average scum player would.
Which was what - that I hadn't been asking questions as you suggested?

I can see what Shad is saying here makes sense.

I'm using my iPad (did I say I got one....*giggles*) so doing this in parts not as easy as I thought

On phone.

My notes are talya is likely distancing after talking strategy with zander. You can see how zander nudges her a few pages before this and now she does the same to him and laine.

Laine is pairing wolves and towns to avoid spew. I know i have more info than u bfg but its true. U snd talya then zander and shad

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

Quotes snipped because of DM limits :/

<snip>

Ya im a slow starter day 1 as well. Not a lot go on. atp. Bolded made me sad but its Alanna she gets a pass on this...lolololol. Dont remember if I played with Hallia before. Gonna go back and re read to see if I pick up on anything.

I'm not getting a scummy vibe from Yates (yet) seems more involved and seems to be having more fun compared to Star Wars atp fwiw,

Talya seems to be into it but no real read on her yet.

Also liking your tone so far as well.

Need people to pick it up.

My summary of D1 thus far...

It was AJ that first mentioned about not vigging n1.

However I now think you are also towny

[v]No lynch[/v]

No open the beers (and vodka)

Ebwop...Now dog!

Where did dog come from...off to eat something sugary

Yates, you know that's not gonna fly - right?
We can do it by not making a hammer lynch every day...so what is the difference

1. In the event of a draw wolves win by default.

2. Wolves have no nightly kill.

3. Mafia Role PM:

Darthe - You are Otto Graham, Wolf 1x Vigilante. Once , during the night phase of the game, you may submit a kill on a single individual. Your team wins by eliminating all members of the town from the game.

There are 10 Town.

There are 3 wolves.

Wolves get 4 kills.

If we no lynch all game and never use our vig shots we win 6-3.

[v]No lynch[/v]

Game is solved.

Yates not just a man with a pretty face and no pants!!!

[v] No Lynch [/v[

Yates GOAT

lolololololol

Yates, you know that's not gonna fly - right?
We can do it by not making a hammer lynch every day...so what is the difference

That's true but also more consequential versus actively choosing to not play in a sense.

I mean - yeah - it auto wins for town but I don't think that was Darthe's intent when he put this together.

I agree that is probably not what he intended. But we can still be lazy and win.

ebwop

[v] Yates [/v]

Lol I fell for it...need chocolate.

Thanks Shad. Back to work then

[unvote]

Lol I get that pic...unfortunately

Not sure what you meant by "the Under" assumed some American Football talk..so didn't get it..

so he copied you then?

Not sure what you meant by "the Under" assumed some American Football talk..so didn't get it..

so he copied you then?

I handed him the rock and he carried it.

This isn't a sports metaphor it's a gambling question. Zander wanted to know how many kills there would be N1. He set the bar at 5 and wanted to know if it would be OVER five or UNDER five. I suggested that if we learned anything from the last game, it should be UNDER five. In other words, I'm suggesting people don't go nuts with their N1 shots. AJ didn't copy me so much as agree.

Now that makes more sense. Not a gambling person, but I get it now. Thanks

Tbh, I still like the look of AJ as town lean

Not a Jets fan and Jets ownership is obviously terrible at football BUT...

This was cool.

New York Jets owner Woody Johnson is an extremely rich man, but he's also very generous with his money.

Johnson attended a ceremony on Wednesday in which Army Sgt. Adam Keys, who was wounded by improved explosive devices five years ago in combat in Afghanistan, was given a "smart home" in Annapolis, Md., that allows him to live independently. Johnson gave $1 million to build the houses for Keys and Army Sgt. Bryan Dilberian, who was also wounded by explosive devices in combat. Dilberian's home is being constructed in Staten Island, N.Y.

USA! USA! USA!

+1

Amazing, that someone should do that, wish there were more like him

<snip>
Well technically we have to kill all the wolves, as Shad and Andrej pointed out, I believe.

Second part: only responses I can think of require words that violate DM's code of conduct. Though now that I think of it, everything's probably giffed at this point. Meh

@Talya: Same, but I think I said last game that Andrej as town isn't always town town. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

I had him as wolf last time to begin with, but he was third party, seems a little calmer. Although when hybrid, might make him different. At present it's a little slow.

Unfortunately I can, Zander. Thoughts on other players?

Theres not much to go on but Im feeling good On Yates. Finding him way more into the game and he's just Yatesing.(tm a can't quite put my finger on it.

Zander, this is what Talia posted between your reads, and your interaction. I'll admit she posted more than I remembered, I'd still like a reason of possible :)

tbh shes still null i just find the tone "Now Dog" :"We can still be lazy and win" but mostly my gut. my gut served me pretty well thus far and im learning to trust it. its D1 with not a whole lot going on. Chances are there a wolf (s) in the little to non posters according to the CCSOHW and one (some) posting. Just making.

Backtracks awkwardly from nudging. Bfg come on see what im seeing. Zander is new he wants to create distance but he doesnt want to lynch talya. He realizes a lot of eyes are on scum... ppl are talking about them so he tries to divert focus to low posters instead of talya.

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

This is not the hyper aggressive zander from sw. -___-

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

Literally impossible for thane to be a two shot wolf here with tslya. Thane would have won yhe game if he had a billet by getting talya to hammer zander. Instead thane cfds talya.

Zander pribably didnt have a choice but to bus and i dont recall talya fighting hard. Zander is the only person who might have a bullet. Lets murder him. And then we can lose to dice if im wrong.

Sili Quirrels · July 25, 2015

Wolves have a shot left.... I just looked at who died from an nk and 4 have.

Thane killed hallia. We lost our other viges eatly.

Lynch zander and win pls. U know im not a wolf with a bullet now. i dont believe dice has a bullet or talya would have hammered

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