[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[seph]

Me too

... I couldn't post all day, but I have a post written up I need to post.

 

Could you do me a favor and unvote for now?

[csarmi]

Just hammer them. They are wolf.

[csarmi]

Not unvoting Seph. I am pretty sure they are mafia. So sure that i will disregard your request. Sorry.

[seph]

Plz just unvote them. After my post we can decide.

Everyone is calling them a wolf for yesterday.... well everyone but two people....

 

Unvote then read my post please

[seph]

You can move it back after if you feel like it

[csarmi]

What do you think of my points?

 

I think it is as simple as only them. Off chance they got a partner with good play or an sk.

 

Yates/Sili cant be sk. They cant be wolf either. See the Verb post i quoted. Sili played town and i saw yates townish mostly. Their claim and breadcrumbs been bad but i have nothing else against them.

[csarmi]

[unvote]

[csarmi]

I wanna see how much time we have tho.

[seph]

LOOK AT DAY 1 ..
Sili is the obvious mafia on laine besides leelou, but people gave him a pass for some reason. He has been able to coast.
yates/sili are not town. if its wolf or cult... but there is no way in my mind they can be town

[seph]

thank you. let me go to the other room and post it.

[seph]

Aj and wombo have played a solid town game, and until the doc incident I haven't really thought that they were scummy at all.

Here is the thing, heart is good at accepting a ml. Almost as good as thane, but everyone here thought heart could of been scummy. we followed aj because we believed him. now I am asking you all to follow me, i believe THERE ARE 2 scum left. and I do not think eld and tayla are scum.

I pushed Eld because I know he is going to be the easiest to ml with his day 3 play. as I said earlier, yates pretty much jumped on it. YAtes/sili have no reason to not be reading aj as scum. everyone should unless you know his alignment....Dudes just pushed a doc lynch.... and yates and sili don't bat a eyelash towards him. THEY SHOULD WANT TO VOTE HIM, OR FIGURE OUT IF HE IS TOWN. not just say LOL doc lynch dudes town.

I could be wrong but in that case just vote wombo tomorrow. 

 

The Reasons I don't believe wombocombo scum is in there play. I loved there day two and I actually cleared them, and tayla as well.They were a main force to sooh's lynch, and I know Aj is like me, he won't bus as scum until it is a HAVE to. 

I played on a wolf team with him, and he alone got me out of a situation, and kept our whole team safe. He is prideful like that. 

Yes his push on heart was a bit much, but if he was a commuter I see why, and I would have pushed just as hard. look at his play, yes it is aggressive but he means every word of it.

He thought she was the last scum, and you can tell.

 

 

Guys there are 2 scum left. There is no doubt in my mind, otherwise This game would not be balanced. and I think rules out wombo

taylas day 2 play is not something she could not replicate as scum. I said 90% earlier, but I don't ever lynch her this game.

 

Eldrick- He has played a weird game, but it has been a town game. He actively asks questions even if the response is going to be... your scummy. Look at the last game, the airbender game and how he interacts with his scum mates.  everything is more thought out. I only lynch him after yates/sili  / wombo/   eldrick   I have wombocombo and yates here through poe. But I think wombocombo is town.

 

yates- has pretty much been scummy all game besides day 1. He came in ranting about how he would be clear day 3; his interaction with aj was really weird, especially how he backed off day 2 I beleieve.

Yates- Trys to spin Alanna's views to clear him?? It was obvious who she viewed, but yates kept putting out the idea that it was him. -EV

 

I just thought about this while the site was down.

yates wasn't clear and said alanna should view him. suprise suprise alanna died that night.

 

Yates says that I SHOULD know what his claim is RIGHT BEFORE he hammered sooh, which didn't harm him because she wanted a replacement. also I died that night. I forgot about this but yates knew I was a pr which is why the doc hunt worked. he quoted me when I said I am going to figure this game out. 

Every single person in the game, thought it was over the top, except yates beacuse I said it last game when he mentored me. I also think he was the only one who noticed my doc crumbs.

 

 

yates asks for a mass claim... I feel like a idiot for going with this, though it outs him now. 

 

Right now everone thinks aj is scum.... well everone besides who? the masons. yates was after aj day 2. backs off before he loses the thunderdome. But now when aj and wombo pull a stunt like lynching the doctor. THEY SHOULD HAVE TO CONVINCE EVERYONE OF US THEY ARE NOT SCUM.

yates and sili ignore him, there is only one way in my mind they do not go after him, or at least participate in figuring him out. UNLESS THEY KNOW HIS ALIGNMENT.

 

 

If you look back when I pressured sili. ITS the EXACT same tone when he fake claimed cop in american gods. He was obvious scum on his day 1 vote here. but sheeples, alanna and darthe cleared him for it being a scum wouldn't do that. and he has coasted. Sili knows his volume is a tell... but the problem with his volume is it lacks engagement. THIS is his town tell, town sili engages way more than this game .When I did my seer cover horribly I might add. town sili would jump on this vote me and pressure me. It is how he works, instead he defends me? and talks about me and aj for like 50 pages.

 

 

Sili basicly outed them day 5, and yates comes in with a lolcat saying I will never play with sili again.

 

 

 

I am doing all of this from memory, because the site is still down. So I will copypasta this when I can. this just doesn't add up. yates fighting the 5 mafia. his play this game has been so different its ridiculous. sili bad day1 vote. actively trying to use sooh to clear him. 

The poor mason play. There day 5 information in general after me and zander called them out???

 

 

 

I am not saying there is no way wombo isn't scum. I am saying you have a better chance in finding the scum in the so called masons. I would bet hamsters they flip non town. My gut is telling me to go here, so I will not lynch wombocombo today. There is 5 mafia... I do not think tayla and eldrick are mafia and if you lynch them I burn this village to the ground with rage. and fire of course.

 

put the puzzle pieces together. I realize eld and aj are pouring fuel on the puzzle, lighting it on fire and dancing around it... but this is the way to go. This is more than just a gut feeling. QUIT THE I AM NOT LYNCHING THE MASON.... THEY ARE NOT MASONS. show me where they have shown it. you can't becuase they thought it up too late.

 

I know I messed up in the last game. and I am not going to lie, I am going to be thinking about that forever. BUT I want to win this, and I promise you I am not going to let this be a repeat. I really want and need the town to follow me here. I need my village.

 

DICE, and NOTBOB I need you two especially. lynching here wins the game, more often than lynching wombo. If by an off chance I am wrong then you can follow your plan tomorrow. I have been bullied out of my idea once I am not going to let it happen again.

 

 

I spent like a hour typing this, and have literally been thinking about this game non stop. 

[csarmi]

I wont have thw time pr energy for another pass through thw thread however so make your post a good one. I will consider it but i find my vote moving be very unlikely. Been quite satisfied with my read last evening. Everything seemed to click into place.

[seph]

HERE LET ME PUT WOMBOCOMBO CONS
Pushed doc lynch....

its a big con but DOES NOT deserve to be lynched before sili/yates. we win more often then not going this route

[csarmi]

Seph do me a favour and check Wombo progression on Leelou D1. Then check their interactions with the rest of the mafia at D1. Conside4 that Verb/Lee/Womb are RL friends. Check this and tell me what u think.

[csarmi]

The doc push is just a desperate icing on the cake for me. They push that lynch there as villa never btw (they know quite well how to optimize town chances).

 

I will be back later.

 

Oh and shoq me what they did this game. Apart from "hey gaiz its easy just lynch x, y and z" why u gonna habe to make it so complicated...

[seph]

also yates was pushing that leelou always puts a scum mate in bot 4. for quite awhile. 
then ignores aj/wombo when he does something like that????


so I am checking how wombo portrays leelou?

[seph]

The doc push is just a desperate icing on the cake for me. They push that lynch there as villa never btw (they know quite well how to optimize town chances).

 

I will be back later.

 

Oh and shoq me what they did this game. Apart from "hey gaiz its easy just lynch x, y and z" why u gonna habe to make it so complicated...

if that is the case WHY isn't yates or sili pushing them. or at least trying to figure there alignment. IT MAKES NO SENSE

[csarmi]

also yates was pushing that leelou always puts a scum mate in bot 4. for quite awhile. 

then ignores aj/wombo when he does something like that????

 

 

so I am checking how wombo portrays leelou?

 

Yup. I don't want to influence your take too much. Let's talk about it after you check it. Try to read it in context if possible. I know... work.

[csarmi]

 

The doc push is just a desperate icing on the cake for me. They push that lynch there as villa never btw (they know quite well how to optimize town chances).

 

I will be back later.

 

Oh and shoq me what they did this game. Apart from "hey gaiz its easy just lynch x, y and z" why u gonna habe to make it so complicated...

if that is the case WHY isn't yates or sili pushing them. or at least trying to figure there alignment. IT MAKES NO SENSE

 

 

You mean why Yates/Sili are not pushing Wombo? No idea. Shall I read through day3-5?

[seph]

Think about it.. it's up to you.

I need to read up to 3 again.

But read where zander and me were pushing sili.

Read day 3 with aj and womb.

 

And I would say read the interaction with aj and yates day 2 I believe?

[csarmi]

Good points Seph, I'll check this stuff if I get the chance. For now we're agreed that Eldrick needs NOT be lynched right?

[csarmi]

@Wombo - put your vote off Eldrick please. We ain't lynching them. Seph is right that it's either you guys or the Sili/Yates pair - and surely not him.

[csarmi]

@Wombo - put your vote off Eldrick please. We ain't lynching them. Seph is right that it's either you guys or the Sili/Yates pair - and surely not him.

[WWWwombat]

Not fully caught up, but Salami, you disappoint me.

 

You should be my biggest defender here, but you are a prisoner of your expectations.  We need to cooperate for a wolf lynch.

 

I have only been trying to achieve a town win.  My fate is in the town's hands.

[csarmi]

Same for Dice please.

 

I'm not willing to lynch outside Wombo/Yates today, that's for sure.