A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Gabriel Kross]

 

 

I'm the joat doctor, not her. I confirm my role, she's not done so.

 

I'm allowing for the possibility only. I'm never risking the game on trusting her.

you're risking the game by not trusting her.

 

How?

 

you're mafia so I will not explain it to you. If Pizza is truly thinking about it he should see what I'm trying to say

[Askthepizzaguy]

You're not getting through to me with vagueness or subtlety.

 

If you have a point, make it loud and unambiguous. I'm tunneling now, only a sledgehammer can break me out of this tunnel.

 

But it's a good tunnel. It leads to victory and no other action does.

[Sooh]

 

 

 

I'm the joat doctor, not her. I confirm my role, she's not done so.

 

I'm allowing for the possibility only. I'm never risking the game on trusting her.

you're risking the game by not trusting her.

 

How?

 

you're mafia so I will not explain it to you. If Pizza is truly thinking about it he should see what I'm trying to say

 

uh... the "You're mafia so I won't speak to you" is lame. What if I'm not?

 

Also what's the big deal about explaining it? It's not like I'm the only one reading your response.

[Gabriel Kross]

You're not getting through to me with vagueness or subtlety.

 

If you have a point, make it loud and unambiguous. I'm tunneling now, only a sledgehammer can break me out of this tunnel.

 

But it's a good tunnel. It leads to victory and no other action does.

fine if you want it blunt for mafia, I was saying you trust Hallia and you can protect yourself while making sure Leelou and Hallia survive

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hallia's claim came under pressure, and we already have a bulletproof investigator and 2 protections per every three nights from me.

 

I don't believe her claim and she did not die.

 

I am allowing for the possibility only due to the sheer number of scums and that we can still get her if we lynch scums from here on out.

 

But I will never risk the game on her sayso.

[Askthepizzaguy]

 

You're not getting through to me with vagueness or subtlety.

 

If you have a point, make it loud and unambiguous. I'm tunneling now, only a sledgehammer can break me out of this tunnel.

 

But it's a good tunnel. It leads to victory and no other action does.

fine if you want it blunt for mafia, I was saying you trust Hallia and you can protect yourself while making sure Leelou and Hallia survive

 

 

If I could protect myself I'd just protect Leelou and myself.

[Gabriel Kross]

Hallia's claim came under pressure, and we already have a bulletproof investigator and 2 protections per every three nights from me.

 

I don't believe her claim and she did not die.

 

I am allowing for the possibility only due to the sheer number of scums and that we can still get her if we lynch scums from here on out.

 

But I will never risk the game on her sayso.

"from here on out" yet you're still blindly voting me lol

[Askthepizzaguy]

Mercy rule at this point.

 

Above all the game should be fun.

 

I'm not going to continue this, EP. If I can't persuade anyone else to follow me then that's all there is to it.

 

See you in postgame. Shake hands.

[Gabriel Kross]

for the record mafia wouldn't controll the vote either this is the point in the game where they should start aiming at each other. Especially Tina's team. If tina's team doesn't kill one of the opposing mafia they have no chance at wining this game due to shear numbers difference. This is why the other team should be aiming at tina's team, to keep their number above her team's 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Mafia's best strategy is to eliminate town first, especially with the numbers they have now.

 

Weakening while both teams are under vote pressure loses. Both mafia teams should vote united, if they cared to win.

 

I'm not saying that because I like it, I'm saying that because its true and village needs to watch like a hawk for that kind of collaboration before end of round.

[Gabriel Kross]

Mafia's best strategy is to eliminate town first, especially with the numbers they have now.

 

Weakening while both teams are under vote pressure loses. Both mafia teams should vote united, if they cared to win.

 

I'm not saying that because I like it, I'm saying that because its true and village needs to watch like a hawk for that kind of collaboration before end of round.

not true, in this case Tina's team has to even the numbers or they automaticaly lose endgame. 

[Gabriel Kross]

 

Mafia's best strategy is to eliminate town first, especially with the numbers they have now.

 

Weakening while both teams are under vote pressure loses. Both mafia teams should vote united, if they cared to win.

 

I'm not saying that because I like it, I'm saying that because its true and village needs to watch like a hawk for that kind of collaboration before end of round.

not true, in this case Tina's team has to even the numbers or they automaticaly lose endgame. 

 

^this is basic math folks.

[Cass]

So, here's what happened: 

 

 

Sooh (2/8): Dice, Thane

Eternal Phoenix (5/8): Pizza, Talya, White Knight, Andrej, Hallia

AH (3/8): EP, Sooh, Seph

 Not Voting (4/14):

AH, Alannalynn, Cass, Leelou

 

 

 

unvote

 

[v]Sooh[/v]

 

 

 

Sooh (4/8): Dice, Thane, White Knight, Cass

Eternal Phoenix (4/8): Pizza, Talya, Andrej, Hallia

AH (3/8): EP, Sooh, Seph

 

Not Voting (4/14):

AH, Alannalynn, Leelou

 

 

 

 

 

Official Vote Count Six:

 

Sooh (4/8): Dice,  Thane, White Knight, Cass

Eternal Phoenix (4/8): Pizza, Talya, AndreJ, Hallia

AH (3/8): EP, Sooh, Seph

 Not Voting (3/14):

AH, Leelou, Alannalynn

 

Deadline is at 9:30 AM EST on 5/22/2015.  With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

 

hey WK there's the vote count I see no confirmation of your claimed role #lawyered

 

 

 

Except my vote's on Sooh instead of you this phase and I wasn't the one to switch my top two reads for Scum...

Not sure what to make of this tbh. I'm actually happy with my vote on either at this point, so WK'S doing me a favour?

not having voted herself, but not being worried her vote was stolen.... like it was agreed to try and clear WK in his role.

 

 

 

 

Cass.... can you show me where you voted?

 

I'm on mobile sorry Thane.

If you're talking about the vote on Sooh, the point is I haven't voted yet but my vote is counted in the vote count against Sooh, and appeared at the same time as WK voted.So I assume his claim is true, still no idea on alignment though given Sooh is currently 2nd on my list.

 

 

I'd be unhappy if someone would take my vote and vote someone i wouldn't want them to vote.... Cass makes it seem like she doesn't mind

 

I'll keep my vote on Sooh, Cass is next.

Thane, how many times have I ever taken anything personally or acted overly upset in a thread? I pointed out the fact that my vote had been placed by someone other than myself, and in case you missed it, there were italics in my observation. These convey as much emotion as you're ever likely to get from me in a game like this, I don't really know what else you're looking for?

 

You say you'd be upset, and are making a big deal of me not making it a bigger deal - but that's a weak and rather reaching link and I don't really see what else you'd expect me to do here, or what motive you -as Town- would have for suddenly linking me as scum based on this, because somebody else stole my vote.

 

You're happy to leave your vote on Sooh, but you're gonna vote me next over WK, who you think is scum for stealing my vote?

 

If I've understood that correctly it puts more suspicion on you than me for being his potential partner imo, and Pizza's peek on you aside, you've been playing more scummy than I've ever seen you, since the beginning of the game.

[Thane Vakarian]

so, here's just a little idea of mine.... This is a mutliball game, right? Does that HAVE to mean there are 2 mafia teams, or can it be a larger mafia team with one or two independant parties?

 

I could totally see Gollum as a third party, not caring about good or evil, but only about the Ring.

 

Or am i just being silly?

[Cass]

Stoopid mobile posting.

 

"I'll keep my vote on Sooh, Cass is next." is the end of Thane's quote there, everything after is me.

[Gabriel Kross]

we assume that it's 4v4vtown setup we got a 3v4v7 then. Town lynched makes it 3v4v6 2 town die at night makes it 3v4v4 Mafia team 1 is dead to rights no matter who is lynched next. Now if mafia team 2 loses 1 at night and a town dies. They can consolidate and lynch a townie. However then it's down to night kills to see who wins, and luck. if team 2 shoots a team 1 at the same time it keeps the mafia status quo in team 2's favor the game can't go down to even number mafia otherwise no lynches could be made it would be split votes and be 5050 chance.

 

so, here's just a little idea of mine.... This is a mutliball game, right? Does that HAVE to mean there are 2 mafia teams, or can it be a larger mafia team with one or two independant parties?

 

I could totally see Gollum as a third party, not caring about good or evil, but only about the Ring.

 

Or am i just being silly?

no that'd just be a standard advanced game. Tina was specifically on the Fatherless Mafia team.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

So, here's what happened: 

 

Sooh (2/8): Dice, Thane

Eternal Phoenix (5/8): Pizza, Talya, White Knight, Andrej, Hallia

AH (3/8): EP, Sooh, Seph

 Not Voting (4/14):

AH, Alannalynn, Cass, Leelou

 

 

unvote

 

[v]Sooh[/v]

 

 

Sooh (4/8): Dice, Thane, White Knight, Cass

Eternal Phoenix (4/8): Pizza, Talya, Andrej, Hallia

AH (3/8): EP, Sooh, Seph

 

Not Voting (4/14):

AH, Alannalynn, Leelou

 

 

 

 

Official Vote Count Six:

 

Sooh (4/8): Dice,  Thane, White Knight, Cass

Eternal Phoenix (4/8): Pizza, Talya, AndreJ, Hallia

AH (3/8): EP, Sooh, Seph

 Not Voting (3/14):

AH, Leelou, Alannalynn

 

Deadline is at 9:30 AM EST on 5/22/2015.  With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

hey WK there's the vote count I see no confirmation of your claimed role #lawyered

 

 

 

Except my vote's on Sooh instead of you this phase and I wasn't the one to switch my top two reads for Scum...

Not sure what to make of this tbh. I'm actually happy with my vote on either at this point, so WK'S doing me a favour?

not having voted herself, but not being worried her vote was stolen.... like it was agreed to try and clear WK in his role.

 

 

 

 

Cass.... can you show me where you voted?

I'm on mobile sorry Thane.

If you're talking about the vote on Sooh, the point is I haven't voted yet but my vote is counted in the vote count against Sooh, and appeared at the same time as WK voted.So I assume his claim is true, still no idea on alignment though given Sooh is currently 2nd on my list.

 

 

I'd be unhappy if someone would take my vote and vote someone i wouldn't want them to vote.... Cass makes it seem like she doesn't mind

 

I'll keep my vote on Sooh, Cass is next.

Thane, how many times have I ever taken anything personally or acted overly upset in a thread? I pointed out the fact that my vote had been placed by someone other than myself, and in case you missed it, there were italics in my observation. These convey as much emotion as you're ever likely to get from me in a game like this, I don't really know what else you're looking for?

 

You say you'd be upset, and are making a big deal of me not making it a bigger deal - but that's a weak and rather reaching link and I don't really see what else you'd expect me to do here, or what motive you -as Town- would have for suddenly linking me as scum based on this, because somebody else stole my vote.

 

You're happy to leave your vote on Sooh, but you're gonna vote me next over WK, who you think is scum for stealing my vote?

 

If I've understood that correctly it puts more suspicion on you than me for being his potential partner imo, and Pizza's peek on you aside, you've been playing more scummy than I've ever seen you, since the beginning of the game.

 

i'm equally convinced that all three of you are wolves. It's nothing personal. It's currently more likely that Sooh would be lynched, so that's why i'm not moving my vote. The order in which to lynch the three of you doesn't matter that much to me.

 

 

still you

 

[Cass]

Also I just got 'in trouble' for being antisocial. .. Back tonight

[Thane Vakarian]

wow, that thing got botched.... sorry

[Gabriel Kross]

we assume that it's 4v4vtown setup we got a 3v4v7 then. Town lynched makes it 3v4v6 2 town die at night makes it 3v4v4 Mafia team 1 is dead to rights no matter who is lynched next. Now if mafia team 2 loses 1 at night and a town dies. They can consolidate and lynch a townie. However then it's down to night kills to see who wins, and luck. if team 2 shoots a team 1 at the same time it keeps the mafia status quo in team 2's favor the game can't go down to even number mafia otherwise no lynches could be made it would be split votes and be 5050 chance.

 

so, here's just a little idea of mine.... This is a mutliball game, right? Does that HAVE to mean there are 2 mafia teams, or can it be a larger mafia team with one or two independant parties?

 

I could totally see Gollum as a third party, not caring about good or evil, but only about the Ring.

 

Or am i just being silly?

no that'd just be a standard advanced game. Tina was specifically on the Fatherless Mafia team.

taking this, you can afford to lose me, because the mafia can't afford not to shoot each other at this point, since the town can still be lead wrong during the day

[Askthepizzaguy]

we assume that it's 4v4vtown setup we got a 3v4v7 then. Town lynched makes it 3v4v6 2 town die at night makes it 3v4v4 Mafia team 1 is dead to rights no matter who is lynched next. Now if mafia team 2 loses 1 at night and a town dies. They can consolidate and lynch a townie. However then it's down to night kills to see who wins, and luck. if team 2 shoots a team 1 at the same time it keeps the mafia status quo in team 2's favor the game can't go down to even number mafia otherwise no lynches could be made it would be split votes and be 5050 chance.

 

so, here's just a little idea of mine.... This is a mutliball game, right? Does that HAVE to mean there are 2 mafia teams, or can it be a larger mafia team with one or two independant parties?

 

I could totally see Gollum as a third party, not caring about good or evil, but only about the Ring.

 

Or am i just being silly?

no that'd just be a standard advanced game. Tina was specifically on the Fatherless Mafia team.

 

Is that what "Fatherless" meant?

 

Thanks for clarifying both that, and your guilt, and that there are indeed two mafia factions.

[Gabriel Kross]

 

we assume that it's 4v4vtown setup we got a 3v4v7 then. Town lynched makes it 3v4v6 2 town die at night makes it 3v4v4 Mafia team 1 is dead to rights no matter who is lynched next. Now if mafia team 2 loses 1 at night and a town dies. They can consolidate and lynch a townie. However then it's down to night kills to see who wins, and luck. if team 2 shoots a team 1 at the same time it keeps the mafia status quo in team 2's favor the game can't go down to even number mafia otherwise no lynches could be made it would be split votes and be 5050 chance.

 

so, here's just a little idea of mine.... This is a mutliball game, right? Does that HAVE to mean there are 2 mafia teams, or can it be a larger mafia team with one or two independant parties?

 

I could totally see Gollum as a third party, not caring about good or evil, but only about the Ring.

 

Or am i just being silly?

no that'd just be a standard advanced game. Tina was specifically on the Fatherless Mafia team.

 

Is that what "Fatherless" meant?

 

Thanks for clarifying both that, and your guilt, and that there are indeed two mafia factions.

 

it's common sense

[Askthepizzaguy]

Shoot, mercy rule.

 

I'd better walk away before I'm tempted again.

[Gabriel Kross]

remember I tried saying I was mafia to get lynched

[Gabriel Kross]

guys I'm mafia vote me.