A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Gabriel Kross]

I sewed seeds of fear when I was asking to die. I had 2 mafia on my train and 1 jumped off scared. Ask yourself why would people jump off of a lynch of a claimed vanilla town, when it's so much easier to prove them truthful by just finishing them off. 

[Thane Vakarian]

Cass.... can you show me where you voted?

[Gabriel Kross]

I called WK out on his shenanigans of a fake claim too and where'd he go?

[Cass]

Ok. I'm out with bestie for the rest of the afternoon/evening. Will try and skim on mobile occasionally/catch up before bed but we have an early start tomorrow and it's her last day here so I'll be scarce.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza, your WIM to lynch EP is actually unsettling. I honestly can't tell if it's legit or wolfy at this point just based on tone.

 

How can you be so confident that you're right?

 

Follow the progression

 

1) I mildly suspect Alot

2) He replaces out, is immediately replaced over less active folks (THIS IS A METAGAME ARGUMENT, I'm sorry.... ignore it for lynching purposes)

3) EP dies and replaces in for Alot

4) He says his list being the same as when he was a mason 12 seconds ago makes him a villager (?)

5) He says he's innocent, don't lynch him, hints he's Ecthelion I (????) because that means jack all.

6) He hastily claims vanilla townie when I don't believe he's a valuable village power based on such a meaningless namedrop.

7) I ask for support lynching him, he says he'll quit mafia forever due to inactivity (!?)

8) I get no vote support to lynch him.

 

9) I roleblock him, one less murder

10) How difficult it was to get vote support today

11) Mafia are bussing others on their team to protect EP, the easiest villager in the game to lynch (so he says) but I've pointed out the resistance

12) He dares you to lynch him after we just lost a townie.

 

 

There's no tomorrow. There is no "Askthepizzaguy will find scums now if I am lynched".

 

WE LOSE.

 

WE LOSE THE GAME.

 

He's bluffing because it's losing him the game, not us.

 

I'm not certain, but just blocking a murder should have been enough. There's so much to this case that I'm exasperated that it's not resulting in a turbo lynch.

[Gabriel Kross]

My role is what it is, and I have been scum hunting, and I even called out both of EP's counterwagons as likely being scum AND stated several reasons why both are scum.

 

I can't reverse from that, I don't intend to.

 

I WANT town to lynch both of them, after EP is lynched. Please do so in a timely, orderly fashion. Please do not waver. Please do not forget.

 

EP is the one I stopped from murdering last night. EP is the one who name-dropped like it meant anything, before hastily claiming VT. EP is the one who is playing head games.

 

EP is the one who is clinging to his mason's list.

 

EP is the one advancing the argument if you lynch him it will "Confirm" everyone on his list as scum.

 

As if his suspicions while being a MASON weren't enough? His list being quite similar to then?

 

That's why he's guilty- he is not thinking like a townie.

you didn't stop me from murdering anyone buddy, but whatever makes you feel better. I just want a good night's sleep

[Askthepizzaguy]

No villager should ever threaten to self-vote when it loses village the game.

 

He's bluffing always call that bluff it's scummier than me blocking a darned MURDER. It's evidence you can literally see!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Note that through all of this, he hasn't called for me to be lynched in quite a while.

 

He's spewing that he knows I am a villager in doing so.

 

If I did this to any villager here, they'd vote for me and argue why I am scum.

[Gabriel Kross]

 

Pizza, your WIM to lynch EP is actually unsettling. I honestly can't tell if it's legit or wolfy at this point just based on tone.

 

How can you be so confident that you're right?

 

Follow the progression

 

1) I mildly suspect Alot

2) He replaces out, is immediately replaced over less active folks (THIS IS A METAGAME ARGUMENT, I'm sorry.... ignore it for lynching purposes)

3) EP dies and replaces in for Alot

4) He says his list being the same as when he was a mason 12 seconds ago makes him a villager (?)

5) He says he's innocent, don't lynch him, hints he's Ecthelion I (????) because that means jack all.

6) He hastily claims vanilla townie when I don't believe he's a valuable village power based on such a meaningless namedrop.

7) I ask for support lynching him, he says he'll quit mafia forever due to inactivity (!?)

8) I get no vote support to lynch him.

 

9) I roleblock him, one less murder

10) How difficult it was to get vote support today

11) Mafia are bussing others on their team to protect EP, the easiest villager in the game to lynch (so he says) but I've pointed out the resistance

12) He dares you to lynch him after we just lost a townie.

 

 

There's no tomorrow. There is no "Askthepizzaguy will find scums now if I am lynched".

 

WE LOSE.

 

WE LOSE THE GAME.

 

He's bluffing because it's losing him the game, not us.

 

I'm not certain, but just blocking a murder should have been enough. There's so much to this case that I'm exasperated that it's not resulting in a turbo lynch.

 

it's not a bluff I asked Leelou to double vote me when that was all I needed before I pushed my own train home.

[Thane Vakarian]

guys, stop bickering... you see Cass is scum with WK, right?

[Cass]

Cass.... can you show me where you voted?

I'm on mobile sorry Thane.

 

If you're talking about the vote on Sooh, the point is I haven't voted yet but my vote is counted in the vote count against Sooh, and appeared at the same time as WK voted.

 

So I assume his claim is true, still no idea on alignment though given Sooh is currently 2nd on my list.

[Gabriel Kross]

Note that through all of this, he hasn't called for me to be lynched in quite a while.

 

He's spewing that he knows I am a villager in doing so.

 

If I did this to any villager here, they'd vote for me and argue why I am scum.

actually I never called for you to be lynched, because you are not on my list. I always follow my lists.

[Askthepizzaguy]

OMGUS is village's best weapon and he's not using it for appearance sake.

[Gabriel Kross]

guys, stop bickering... you see Cass is scum with WK, right?

yes but it disorganizes who I thought was on teams with each other I can't figure out which one is on the wrong side in my list.

[Gabriel Kross]

OMGUS is village's best weapon and he's not using it for appearance sake.

hey buddy head out of rear and scum hunt. stop using the fear factor. I proved that lynching me will never happen. now trust me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

EP, you are wasting your time arguing with me.

 

Talk to them. I'm not budging on you. You had your chance to convince me for two days. Your defenses only reinforced the read. It's past the point of no return after threatening to self-vote and defeat village intentionally as if there would be a chance for village to recover tomorrow after such a mislynch.

 

You forgot what the tactical situation for village is because you're NOT village.

[Askthepizzaguy]

"proved that lynching me will never happen"

 

Are you saying scums already control the vote? That's all that could ever possibly mean.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Call his bluff, scums do not control the vote.

 

Village, stand with me!

[Gabriel Kross]

"proved that lynching me will never happen"

 

Are you saying scums already control the vote? That's all that could ever possibly mean.

no I'm saying that mafia fear the repercussion so much that they won't kill me it would take every town member including myself to vote me. to kill me excluding the fact that Talya is still on my train from when she burried it early.

[Askthepizzaguy]

We might be close to that point. Threshold is 8 votes to lynch.

 

But if we're close, the scum team of four and four, if so, would make 7 votes after losing one.

 

Only if the mafia teams stood united today could they control the vote, and Leelou has a double vote!

[Thane Vakarian]

So, here's what happened: 

Sooh (2/8): Dice, Thane
Eternal Phoenix (5/8): Pizza, Talya, White Knight, Andrej, Hallia
AH (3/8): EP, Sooh, Seph
 
Not Voting (4/14):
AH, Alannalynn, Cass, Leelou

 

 

unvote

 

[v]Sooh[/v]

 

 

Sooh (4/8): Dice, Thane, White Knight, Cass

Eternal Phoenix (4/8): Pizza, Talya, Andrej, Hallia

AH (3/8): EP, Sooh, Seph

 

Not Voting (4/14):

AH, Alannalynn, Leelou

 

 

 

 

Official Vote Count Six:
 
Sooh (4/8): Dice,  Thane, White Knight, Cass
Eternal Phoenix (4/8): Pizza, Talya, AndreJ, Hallia
AH (3/8): EP, Sooh, Seph
 
Not Voting (3/14):
AH, Leelou, Alannalynn
 
Deadline is at 9:30 AM EST on 5/22/2015.  With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

hey WK there's the vote count I see no confirmation of your claimed role #lawyered

Except my vote's on Sooh instead of you this phase and I wasn't the one to switch my top two reads for Scum...

Not sure what to make of this tbh. I'm actually happy with my vote on either at this point, so WK'S doing me a favour?

 

not having voted herself, but not being worried her vote was stolen.... like it was agreed to try and clear WK in his role.

 

 

Cass.... can you show me where you voted?

I'm on mobile sorry Thane.

If you're talking about the vote on Sooh, the point is I haven't voted yet but my vote is counted in the vote count against Sooh, and appeared at the same time as WK voted.

So I assume his claim is true, still no idea on alignment though given Sooh is currently 2nd on my list.

 

I'd be unhappy if someone would take my vote and vote someone i wouldn't want them to vote.... Cass makes it seem like she doesn't mind

 

I'll keep my vote on Sooh, Cass is next

 

 

guys, stop bickering... you see Cass is scum with WK, right?

yes but it disorganizes who I thought was on teams with each other I can't figure out which one is on the wrong side in my list.

 

here's what i think: i honestly don't give a [censored] who is on which team. A wolf is a wolf and needs to be put down

[Gabriel Kross]

Also I did a brief skim back, I didn't see a vote from Cass so I'm fine with WK and Cass being on opposing mafia teams still in my list

[seph]

I am going to bed in a Second and there is no way I will be on by deadline.

I'm going to have to move my vote for it to be useful

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's openly nakedly bull, EP. If you're a villager there is no possible recourse for village!

 

I'm their last power, as far as I can even tell, and it won't matter, the scums will control the vote.

 

Only if village had some kind of secret weapon to cause a nightkill would this setup even be balanced!

[Cass]

guys, stop bickering... you see Cass is scum with WK, right?

*headdesk*

 

I already said I'd be more willing to believe Leelou was Town over WK at this point if their roles are true and balancing each other out - How does this link me with him as Scum now?

 

I am Town, people.

 

The question for me now is what does WK adding my vote to Sooh instead of Alot/EP2 mean? Which of those three are more scum than Town here?

 

All I can do for now, we're heading out.