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OFF THE LUNCH MENU

 

MANBAT
TOMMY
TINA

PRAL

ERR

HALLIYATES

 

NOT ON THE MENU BUT MAYBE WE'LL SNEAK INTO THE KITCHEN AND MAKE IT OURSELVES

 

DICE/CSARMI

JMM

 

DISHES

 

LENLO

SILI

 

HOUSE SPECIAL $5.99 WITH DRINK

SLEEPER SERVICE

Posted

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Sili (1) - jmm

Tommy (3) - Tina, Lenlo, Sarmtosser

Pral (2) - Sleeper, Manbat

Manbat (2) - Pral, Err

Err (2) - HalliYates, Sili

Sleeper (2) - Tommy, CorMish

 

Not voting (0)

 

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, December 10 @ 8:30 PM MST

Countdown Link: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141210T2030&p0=197&msg=DAY+ONE+DEADLINE&csz=1

 

MOD NOTES:

* Mish will be unavailable from now until Thursday, December 11

Posted

Err's first major contribution this game:

 

 

 

I following player have suspected others for  Villagers or  Mafia  during the course of day 1

 

 

1. dawnflower8 :

 2. jmm :

 3. Sili Quirrels : Csarmi, Manbat, Err

 4. CoryMish : Tina, Monstr, DiceCsarmi, Pral, Tina, DiceCsarmi,DiceCsarmi, Tommy, DiceCsarmi, Tina, DiceCsarmi,  Tommy, Cory, Tommy, jmm,  Tina,  Tina, DiceCsar, Monstr,  Tommy

 5. Err :

 6. Manbat :Cory, Sili, Cory, DiceCsarmi, Tommy,  Tommy, Tommy,

 7. Sleeper :

 8. DiceCsarmi : Pral,  Cory,  Tommy,

 9. Tommyrod : Monstr, Sili, Salami, Pral, CoryMish, Pral,  Pral,

10. Pralaya : Tina,

11. TinaHel : Sili,  Sili, DiceCsarmi

12. HalliaYates :

 

 

err... let me repaste it

 

 

I following player have suspected others for  Villager or  Mafia  during the course of day 1

 

 1. dawnflower8 :

 2. jmm :

 3. Sili Quirrels : Csarmi, Manbat, Err

 4. CoryMish : Tina, Monstr, DiceCsarmi, Pral, TinaDiceCsarmi,DiceCsarmiTommy, DiceCsarmi, Tina, DiceCsarmi,  Tommy, CoryTommy, jmm,  Tina,  Tina, DiceCsar, Monstr,  Tommy

 5. Err :

 6. Manbat :Cory, Sili, Cory, DiceCsarmiTommy,  Tommy, Tommy,

 7. Sleeper :

 8. DiceCsarmi : Pral,  Cory,  Tommy,

 9. Tommyrod : Monstr, Sili, Salami, Pral, CoryMish, Pral,  Pral,

10. Pralaya : Tina,

11. TinaHel : Sili,  Sili, DiceCsarmi

12. HalliaYates :

 

 

the last post have been edited to add colors

 

 

my tally for votes do not match with the moderator... so please correct me if i am wrong.

 

dawnflower8 :

 2. jmm :  DiceCsarmi, manbat,

 3. Sili Quirrels : Tina,  Tommy, Silly, CoryMish,

 4. CoryMish :

 5. Err :

 6. Manbat :  DiceCsarmi,  Tommy,

 7. Sleeper : Tommy

 8. DiceCsarmi :  TommyDiceCsarmi,  Tommy,  Tommy,

 9. Tommyrod : CoryMishTommy,, DiceCsarmi, CoryMish

10. Pralaya :  Tommy,

11. TinaHel :

12. HalliaYates : Sili

 

 

now for personal commentary..... since i have not played with most of you my take on things is slightly different then the general consensus in the game so far. 

 

CoryMish (mostly cory) has spent time in claiming/declaring almost 1/3 of the players as villagers (tina, monstr, dice, pral, and a repetition of these claims again and again). and has only gone after Tommy as mafia. This may come from the fact that he has played with these players extensively and knows how they play to make what i consider strong claims especially when he is talking about his town reads.

 

 

Tommy's play has been almost opposite to that of corry. He has spent most time throwing mud at others for being mafia (monstr, sili, salami, pral, corymish, pral) then giving town reads on anyone. then there is a fact of multiple claim roles (mafia/roleblocker then survior). He has been all over the place..... and all that in day one... pretty exiting for me :) i thought he was towny first trying to push people into speaking more and get more information. then i thought he was mafia after the role claim. and now back to town after the 2nd claim. i think this night things could be decided between him and the sleeper guy.

 

 

for the others..... i found the quite a few things very very suspicious.

 

on page one Silli suggested to town tell in the beginning of the game to track mafia faster, Dice was the only one who sort of disagreed with the idea while not attracting a lot of attention. for which i think he is slightly mafiaish. but i think i got a little side tracked with the debate between him and tommy without getting more out of it

 

 

@manbat.... i did not find in any post where you come out against silly as mafia and yet you vote for him out of the blue and couple of people follow you (tommy, cory)... its weird its not in the vote count... i have to check that one again.

 

 

@silli with my initial two posts i wouldnt even consider myself as villager. and since i have not played with you before i do not know where you get the idea that i m town???? FYI i am a guy :P

 

 

having said all this .... now i can focus on the vote between sleeper/tommy pair. am playing the game first time with a survivor role in the game to wikiing it right now

 

 

Err as a wolf some time ago in Cthulu game:

 

here is a summary that i have always found useful... let me know if i missed something,

 

DAY 1:

 

Err:                 

Ishy:                 

Jack:                Lily

Lily:                  Andrej, Quibby, Zanube, Xthrax

Quibby:            

Leelou:                        

Des:                 

Verbal:             Wombat,

Andrej:             LeelouJack, Ishy, Err, Jack,

Zanube:           Xthrax,

Wombat:          Jack,

Xthrax:            Des, Andrej, Verbal, Leelou, Jack, Lily, Wombat, Jack, Andrej, Jack,

 

Not counting Quibby’s initial vote on Jason

 

P.S. Post edited to correct for the bold mishap after coping from MS Word.

edit second time to correct for a mistake, 

 

 

@AJ: let me tell u in detail y i went after you.... when i was reading the posts i found X to be scummy and wanted to place my vote for him but also didnt put a L2 vote on him thinking things were going too fast.... when Lily said the same thing i was thinking, i related to that.... and you pushing her a little to vote irrespective of the remaining lynch votes came off as scummy.... then you yourself said that so many votes on X so soon was kind of suspicious while still going after lily... this made you look more scummy to me... so i am still leaning scum on you. 

 

@ des: you seem to be scum hunting more then throwing random mud around... so i m leaning a little town

 

@ lily: even tough i related to you in D1.... i still kind of have a null read

 

@ jack: you are my second most likely on my scum list.... AJ and you seem to be on the opposite team so i realize i m wrong about one of you. 

 

 

 

 

here is a summary that i have always found useful... let me know if i missed something,

 

DAY 1:

 

Err:

Ishy: 

Jack: Lily

Lily: Andrej, Quibby, Zanube, Xthrax

Quibby: 

Leelou: 

Des: 

Verbal: Wombat,

Andrej: LeelouJack, Ishy, Err, Jack,

Zanube: Xthrax,

Wombat: Jack,

Xthrax: Des, Andrej, Verbal, Leelou, Jack, Lily, Wombat, Jack, Andrej, Jack, 

 

Not counting Quibby’s initial vote on Jason

 

P.S. Post edited to correct for the bold mishap after coping from MS Word.

edit second time to correct for a mistake,

It is irrelevant who X voted for as he was vanilla town and it was day 1. He'd have no knowledge as to who was scum or town.

 

well i think its relevant... and will become more so when we have more red(scum)/green(town) colors as the game continues 

 

 

 

 

 

@X: the reason that des originally for mentioning the C word (used 3 time so far by you and once by Quibby). It had to do with the fact that he and also i believed that it might be a trigger word to activate something worst like a SK (which is in line with the theme of the game). All your defense does not mention this fact that may be u just didnt think it was a trigger word instead it comes out as over defensive. These are pretty much what makes u look scummy (a lot). 

the only reason that i am not voting for you at this moment is that if you were a scum u wouldnt like to activate a other killer on the loose and also because you got 5 votes building up on you within 24 hours of the game being started (even tough you were kind of asking for it). 

 

I don't think a SK mechanic trigger is possible in a basic game. Not that it could not happen. I have heard that it is more likely to happen in advanced mafia games.

 

well this wouldnt be the first time when i would have come under fire for speculating on the game... even as early as day 1.... but i still do believe that a good thing to do.... and i m going to continue speculating.... and so here goes... 2 mafias, 1 godfather, 1 cop, 1 doc, 1 more role (SK?, miller?, etc)

 

 

 

if AJ turns out to be scum then based on the voting pattern either Lily or Wombat would be his teammates

 

 

 

 

@AJ: let me tell u in detail y i went after you.... when i was reading the posts i found X to be scummy and wanted to place my vote for him but also didnt put a L2 vote on him thinking things were going too fast.... when Lily said the same thing i was thinking, i related to that.... and you pushing her a little to vote irrespective of the remaining lynch votes came off as scummy.... then you yourself said that so many votes on X so soon was kind of suspicious while still going after lily... this made you look more scummy to me... so i am still leaning scum on you.

 

@ des: you seem to be scum hunting more then throwing random mud around... so i m leaning a little town

 

@ lily: even tough i related to you in D1.... i still kind of have a null read

 

@ jack: you are my second most likely on my scum list.... AJ and you seem to be on the opposite team so i realize i m wrong about one of you.

Agree with AJ read.

 

Desp seems scummy to me.

 

Lily I have a town read. Like 70%

 

Why do you feel that about me? You didn't give a reason.

 

well.... firstly because when u said we should lynch AJ and if he flips town or scum that would still make X equally scummy.... if u truly believed that then you should have voted for X at that time instead of AJ.....secondly looking at your voting pattern it seems opportunistic to me... you voted 6 times last night... especially you hoping between AJ and X.. thats y i think that if AJ turns out to be town then u are a scum.... 

 

des looks townish to me

 

 

 

 

 

THOUGHTS PLEASE

 

This is extremely strong work and may make me abandon my read on Err entirely.

Posted

Tommy's play has been almost opposite to that of corry. He has spent most time throwing mud at others for being mafia (monstr, sili, salami, pral, corymish, pral) then giving town reads on anyone. then there is a fact of multiple claim roles (mafia/roleblocker then survior). He has been all over the place..... and all that in day one... pretty exiting for me :) i thought he was towny first trying to push people into speaking more and get more information. then i thought he was mafia after the role claim. and now back to town after the 2nd claim. i think this night things could be decided between him and the sleeper guy.

 

you realize I'm the dude who has been saying you are town the entire game, as opposed to basically everyone else? 

Posted

wait why am I being voted, is it for making tons of reads that make sense, or for making tons of reads that make sense AND being sexy?

 

Fear / laziness

Posted

 

Err's first major contribution this game:

 

 

 

I following player have suspected others for  Villagers or  Mafia  during the course of day 1

 

 

1. dawnflower8 :

 2. jmm :

 3. Sili Quirrels : Csarmi, Manbat, Err

 4. CoryMish : Tina, Monstr, DiceCsarmi, Pral, Tina, DiceCsarmi,DiceCsarmi, Tommy, DiceCsarmi, Tina, DiceCsarmi,  Tommy, Cory, Tommy, jmm,  Tina,  Tina, DiceCsar, Monstr,  Tommy

 5. Err :

 6. Manbat :Cory, Sili, Cory, DiceCsarmi, Tommy,  Tommy, Tommy,

 7. Sleeper :

 8. DiceCsarmi : Pral,  Cory,  Tommy,

 9. Tommyrod : Monstr, Sili, Salami, Pral, CoryMish, Pral,  Pral,

10. Pralaya : Tina,

11. TinaHel : Sili,  Sili, DiceCsarmi

12. HalliaYates :

 

 

err... let me repaste it

 

 

I following player have suspected others for  Villager or  Mafia  during the course of day 1

 

 1. dawnflower8 :

 2. jmm :

 3. Sili Quirrels : Csarmi, Manbat, Err

 4. CoryMish : Tina, Monstr, DiceCsarmi, Pral, TinaDiceCsarmi,DiceCsarmiTommy, DiceCsarmi, Tina, DiceCsarmi,  Tommy, CoryTommy, jmm,  Tina,  Tina, DiceCsar, Monstr,  Tommy

 5. Err :

 6. Manbat :Cory, Sili, Cory, DiceCsarmiTommy,  Tommy, Tommy,

 7. Sleeper :

 8. DiceCsarmi : Pral,  Cory,  Tommy,

 9. Tommyrod : Monstr, Sili, Salami, Pral, CoryMish, Pral,  Pral,

10. Pralaya : Tina,

11. TinaHel : Sili,  Sili, DiceCsarmi

12. HalliaYates :

 

 

the last post have been edited to add colors

 

 

my tally for votes do not match with the moderator... so please correct me if i am wrong.

 

dawnflower8 :

 2. jmm :  DiceCsarmi, manbat,

 3. Sili Quirrels : Tina,  Tommy, Silly, CoryMish,

 4. CoryMish :

 5. Err :

 6. Manbat :  DiceCsarmi,  Tommy,

 7. Sleeper : Tommy

 8. DiceCsarmi :  TommyDiceCsarmi,  Tommy,  Tommy,

 9. Tommyrod : CoryMishTommy,, DiceCsarmi, CoryMish

10. Pralaya :  Tommy,

11. TinaHel :

12. HalliaYates : Sili

 

 

now for personal commentary..... since i have not played with most of you my take on things is slightly different then the general consensus in the game so far. 

 

CoryMish (mostly cory) has spent time in claiming/declaring almost 1/3 of the players as villagers (tina, monstr, dice, pral, and a repetition of these claims again and again). and has only gone after Tommy as mafia. This may come from the fact that he has played with these players extensively and knows how they play to make what i consider strong claims especially when he is talking about his town reads.

 

 

Tommy's play has been almost opposite to that of corry. He has spent most time throwing mud at others for being mafia (monstr, sili, salami, pral, corymish, pral) then giving town reads on anyone. then there is a fact of multiple claim roles (mafia/roleblocker then survior). He has been all over the place..... and all that in day one... pretty exiting for me :) i thought he was towny first trying to push people into speaking more and get more information. then i thought he was mafia after the role claim. and now back to town after the 2nd claim. i think this night things could be decided between him and the sleeper guy.

 

 

for the others..... i found the quite a few things very very suspicious.

 

on page one Silli suggested to town tell in the beginning of the game to track mafia faster, Dice was the only one who sort of disagreed with the idea while not attracting a lot of attention. for which i think he is slightly mafiaish. but i think i got a little side tracked with the debate between him and tommy without getting more out of it

 

 

@manbat.... i did not find in any post where you come out against silly as mafia and yet you vote for him out of the blue and couple of people follow you (tommy, cory)... its weird its not in the vote count... i have to check that one again.

 

 

@silli with my initial two posts i wouldnt even consider myself as villager. and since i have not played with you before i do not know where you get the idea that i m town???? FYI i am a guy :P

 

 

having said all this .... now i can focus on the vote between sleeper/tommy pair. am playing the game first time with a survivor role in the game to wikiing it right now

 

 

Err as a wolf some time ago in Cthulu game:

 

here is a summary that i have always found useful... let me know if i missed something,

 

DAY 1:

 

Err:                 

Ishy:                 

Jack:                Lily

Lily:                  Andrej, Quibby, Zanube, Xthrax

Quibby:            

Leelou:                        

Des:                 

Verbal:             Wombat,

Andrej:             LeelouJack, Ishy, Err, Jack,

Zanube:           Xthrax,

Wombat:          Jack,

Xthrax:            Des, Andrej, Verbal, Leelou, Jack, Lily, Wombat, Jack, Andrej, Jack,

 

Not counting Quibby’s initial vote on Jason

 

P.S. Post edited to correct for the bold mishap after coping from MS Word.

edit second time to correct for a mistake, 

 

 

@AJ: let me tell u in detail y i went after you.... when i was reading the posts i found X to be scummy and wanted to place my vote for him but also didnt put a L2 vote on him thinking things were going too fast.... when Lily said the same thing i was thinking, i related to that.... and you pushing her a little to vote irrespective of the remaining lynch votes came off as scummy.... then you yourself said that so many votes on X so soon was kind of suspicious while still going after lily... this made you look more scummy to me... so i am still leaning scum on you. 

 

@ des: you seem to be scum hunting more then throwing random mud around... so i m leaning a little town

 

@ lily: even tough i related to you in D1.... i still kind of have a null read

 

@ jack: you are my second most likely on my scum list.... AJ and you seem to be on the opposite team so i realize i m wrong about one of you. 

 

 

 

 

here is a summary that i have always found useful... let me know if i missed something,

 

DAY 1:

 

Err:

Ishy: 

Jack: Lily

Lily: Andrej, Quibby, Zanube, Xthrax

Quibby: 

Leelou: 

Des: 

Verbal: Wombat,

Andrej: LeelouJack, Ishy, Err, Jack,

Zanube: Xthrax,

Wombat: Jack,

Xthrax: Des, Andrej, Verbal, Leelou, Jack, Lily, Wombat, Jack, Andrej, Jack, 

 

Not counting Quibby’s initial vote on Jason

 

P.S. Post edited to correct for the bold mishap after coping from MS Word.

edit second time to correct for a mistake,

It is irrelevant who X voted for as he was vanilla town and it was day 1. He'd have no knowledge as to who was scum or town.

 

well i think its relevant... and will become more so when we have more red(scum)/green(town) colors as the game continues 

 

 

 

 

 

@X: the reason that des originally for mentioning the C word (used 3 time so far by you and once by Quibby). It had to do with the fact that he and also i believed that it might be a trigger word to activate something worst like a SK (which is in line with the theme of the game). All your defense does not mention this fact that may be u just didnt think it was a trigger word instead it comes out as over defensive. These are pretty much what makes u look scummy (a lot). 

the only reason that i am not voting for you at this moment is that if you were a scum u wouldnt like to activate a other killer on the loose and also because you got 5 votes building up on you within 24 hours of the game being started (even tough you were kind of asking for it). 

 

I don't think a SK mechanic trigger is possible in a basic game. Not that it could not happen. I have heard that it is more likely to happen in advanced mafia games.

 

well this wouldnt be the first time when i would have come under fire for speculating on the game... even as early as day 1.... but i still do believe that a good thing to do.... and i m going to continue speculating.... and so here goes... 2 mafias, 1 godfather, 1 cop, 1 doc, 1 more role (SK?, miller?, etc)

 

 

 

if AJ turns out to be scum then based on the voting pattern either Lily or Wombat would be his teammates

 

 

 

 

@AJ: let me tell u in detail y i went after you.... when i was reading the posts i found X to be scummy and wanted to place my vote for him but also didnt put a L2 vote on him thinking things were going too fast.... when Lily said the same thing i was thinking, i related to that.... and you pushing her a little to vote irrespective of the remaining lynch votes came off as scummy.... then you yourself said that so many votes on X so soon was kind of suspicious while still going after lily... this made you look more scummy to me... so i am still leaning scum on you.

 

@ des: you seem to be scum hunting more then throwing random mud around... so i m leaning a little town

 

@ lily: even tough i related to you in D1.... i still kind of have a null read

 

@ jack: you are my second most likely on my scum list.... AJ and you seem to be on the opposite team so i realize i m wrong about one of you.

Agree with AJ read.

 

Desp seems scummy to me.

 

Lily I have a town read. Like 70%

 

Why do you feel that about me? You didn't give a reason.

 

well.... firstly because when u said we should lynch AJ and if he flips town or scum that would still make X equally scummy.... if u truly believed that then you should have voted for X at that time instead of AJ.....secondly looking at your voting pattern it seems opportunistic to me... you voted 6 times last night... especially you hoping between AJ and X.. thats y i think that if AJ turns out to be town then u are a scum.... 

 

des looks townish to me

 

 

 

 

 

THOUGHTS PLEASE

 

This is extremely strong work and may make me abandon my read on Err entirely.

 

 

and what i am saying is that you are being very selective.... how about the following as a towny??

 

 

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#3148130[basic] The Matrix - Game Over

photo-thumb-31677.jpg?_r=1418245932 Posted by Err on 02 February 2014 - 01:22 AM in DM Mafia Games

Day1:

AndrejTgelm,

Tina:Golden,Despo

Basel:

Darthe:Andrej,

Yates WolfbrotherKronos LucienaTina,

nervositee:DespoAndrej,Luciena,

XthraxAndrej,

Krakalakachkn:

TheodoraDespoTglems,Basel,Despo,

ErrVosAndrejDespoDarthe,Darthe,Tina,Basel,Tglems,Andrej,

Tglems: Golden,Theo,Xthrax,Err,Despo,Golden,Andrej,Vos

Despothera:

Goldeneyes:Darthe,Vos,Tina,Andrej, Tglems

 

 

Day2 (before theos reveal):

Andrej:

Tina: Err, Despo,

Basel:Golden,vos,Theo

Darthe:

Yates WolfbrotherKronos Luciena:

nervositee:

Xthrax:

Theodora:

ErrBasel, Darthe,Despo,

Despothera:Andrej,Tina,

Goldeneyes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Day2 (after theos reveal):

Andrej:

Tina: ErrDespo,

Basel:Golden,Vos,Theo

Darthe:

Yates WolfbrotherKronos Luciena:

nervositee:

Xthrax:

Theodora: Golden,Basel,Despo,Tina,Vos,Err,Xthra,

ErrBasel, Darthe,Despo,

Despothera:Andrej,Tina,

Goldeneyes:

 

Day3 (before golden said lets switch):

Andrej:

Tina:

Darthe:

Yates WolfbrotherKronos Luciena:

nervositee:

Xthrax:

Err: Andrej,Despo,Vos,

Despothera: Xthrax,

Goldeneyes:

Posted

Don't have the fear, and don't be lazy. I'm just totally ABC villaging this game, no idea what anyone's problem with my posts actually is. 

 

np

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Lenlo[/v]

 

 

Posted

...

 

cory it's the first day of a vanilla game, if you could clear me I would by definition be terrible at the game and you already know I'm not so, by extension, you know you can't clear me before the game even starts

 

for that matter I've gotta say, if Yates had any GOOD POINTS in your yelling match, they were each time he sort of implied that it's a little early for POE

 

being that nothing has happened and your reads are on people who are barely posting

Posted

...

 

cory it's the first day of a vanilla game, if you could clear me I would by definition be terrible at the game and you already know I'm not so, by extension, you know you can't clear me before the game even starts

 

for that matter I've gotta say, if Yates had any GOOD POINTS in your yelling match, they were each time he sort of implied that it's a little early for POE

 

being that nothing has happened and your reads are on people who are barely posting

 

Death to all two-way players

I for one welcome our new UAW overlords

 

We can vote Lenlo tho

Posted

I don't think Lenlo is a wolf, so I am not voting for Lenlo. I think pral is probably a wolf, I don't even think anyone disagrees, so I will continue voting for him.

 

Err just CAME AT YOU by saying, in his broken html way, that he does the charts in both roles. WHAT SAY YOU TO THAT?

Posted

I already said that he does that and he already recognized that I said that he does that

 

I would expect you to know that if you read his post :confused:

Posted

and for my impulsive/obsessive list making habbit.

 

When i first played mafia online (http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-game-over-theo-wins/)  i saw BFG do it and it was really helpful in figuring things out especially in the end if not in D1.

 

so i picked it up... and made list for every other game i played

- as towny (http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/87219-basic-the-matrix-game-over/)

- then as mafia (http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/88035-basic-call-of-cthulhu-mafia-mafia-victory/page-22?do=findComment&comment=3184819)

 

and again in this game.... and i will keep doing it irrespective of the vote outcome in few hours.

 

as cory pointed it out in post 1071, i do it either way

 

looks like you are being SELECTIVE

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