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[Basic/Standard] A Wind in the Door Mafia - GAME OVER, TOWN WINS

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Cory Caboose Spam Master

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Thread got villagery all of the sudden

 

 

 

 

Villager posts should just BE villagery without having to analyze them and think "hmm is this villagery?"

Monstr knows


Which wolf is he bussing then? :baalzamon:

Hate that icon

Reminds me of HeWhoShallNotBeNamed

 

 

It's better than:

 

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Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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Back from the weekend and took couple of days to read the entire game. The good news is that I have caught up completely (Thanks for keeping the game 50 pages in 5 days !)

 

First off, the town reads

 

TinaHel

 

As mentioned earlier, I don't see Tina play a risky move as scum. Her main play after that is asking people to kill the claimed survivor, which matches with what I have seen Tina play. Nothing that I have seen screams scum Tina, which is when she plays super-safe.She did say that she wis changing her game, but I don't see her change her playstyle that quickly.

 

CorMish (Cory/Mish hydra)

 

Both Cory and Mish have screamed town so far. Cory isn't as focused on lynching people D1 when he is scum compared to when he is town. Here, I see a lot of positive attempt to scum-hunt - PoE, baiting etc. I kinda read Mish but have not played with her for someitme. But, her posts again are direct and I don't see any subtle opportunism which is what makes her stand out as scum.

 

Next are the slight town reads

 

Lenlo

 

I totally see Lenlo going after the claimed survivor. He suspects me because of me being a low poster so far, but that is expected of him. His reposnses to those who questioned him have also come out as genuine. 

  

Sili

 

I played with him in a game hwere he was both town and scum and could kind of see the difference in his play. He mostly coasts when he is scum and play on the fact that the town are fighting each other. I don't quite see that opportunism here.

  

JMM, Err and Sleeper Service

 

I have not played with them and don't know how they play. So far, jmm being adamant about his playstyle and not changing it under pressure looks like town to me. 

 

Err's whole post looking at who is suspecting whom looked forced. Something like wanting to post something to look townish. Other than that, nothing much to comment on.

 

Sleeper Service has  a lot of posts and very straightforward. I can totally understand his vote on me. But, him going after me, jmm, sili looks like he is gunning for the easy lynches of the day. 

 

All the above are null and would need more time to read them fully.

 

Tommy

 

He has been shipping his votes from one person to another and I can totally see him doing that as town. He claimed survivor, which I would take with a grain of salt. I don't think lynching a survivor is a priority today because it would not give much information and the priority should be to lynch scum. Tommy was trying to hint a third party for a couple of times before he claimed survivor, which makes it seem like a planned move. Suspicious but not today's lynch.

 

Which brings us to the rest who are my scum leans

 

Manbat

 

He has had a lot of playful posts early in the game, too carefree for what I have seen in his town game so far. Again, he is not someone who I have played a lot with but some things seem off. He has been sheeping Cory and Tom in his votes so far and that stands out odd. Leanign scum here.

 

Sarmtosser (Dice/Csarmi hydra)

 

I definitely don't see csarmi go after a claimed survivor day 1. I can see dice doing it but definitely not csarmi. Dice posts also have some weird kind of aggressiveness that stands out - like this post subtly pushing Sleeper or his doggedness in lynching tommy here

 

HalliYates (Hallia/Yates hydra)

 

Yates whole argument with Cory was making a mountain of a molehill. Yeah, Cory suspected Hally on D1 but the whole build up by Yates seemed over the top. Also, he seems less annoyed that I am posting little and more defending me when others started suspecting me. That said, monstr/Yates talks seem w/w to me - like this response from monstr. I don't buy their claim yet - looks more like "if you kill us, you are going to be in trouble" claim.

 

Pral's list

Tommy what do you think of this in a vacuum?

 

How about in a nutshell?

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Spews Tina v

Cory v (you gon die)

Lenlo w possibly

Sili v possibly

One wolf in Err Hoya JMM and one of those is not like the others

I would yolo guess: Err v, Hoya v and JMM w

Tommy v, and I think it's extremely wolfy how lightly he's treating me considering how I have zero content

Manbat v

Guessing level 0 that he's waiting to push SalamiDice after I flip

Leaving Yates option open could mean w/v or w/w with that Monstr connection that is almost definitely a "fake villagery observation"

 

Bad post, it lacks both the depth and paranoja for deep wolves that I expect from him

 

Aligns more with his "gotta mention everyone in a balanced manner" scum game

 

Notice how all the notes are about the same size

 

That isn't specifically wolfy in itself but it's not villagery for analytics types who tend to go all-in on a crazy theory

 

Overall that post reads as "here's the current state of the thread" instead of "here's what I'm thinking"

Cory Caboose Spam Master

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I say this with complete admittance I do not read Pral well

 

He's near the end of my POE because A) his reads don't really make sense to me - weird that he has a sick read on Tina yet can't seem to get there with dice's posting (I think dice has been one of the purest posters in the game for the way he plays and his hammering on and in-thread reactions and pressing are all something he rarely EVER does as a wolf) and B) he's typically inactive and this sort of thing can lose games for villages later and considering I can't come-to on most of his reads I have little faith he'll get the job done when I inevitably go and C) because I'm an egoist and I think now that I'm the only one that can make that kind of sick read on Tina

 

I think him defending Survivor!Tommy is totally in his wolf range - IIRC the last I really saw of his wolf game was Twilight where he came into the thread super conciliatory and giving light clearance to villagers getting a good deal of heat. He plays the counter-intuitive "TMI villager" wolf game though I've heard he's progressed somewhat. I need to check into that SK game cause I heard he did something ~similar to what he did with Tina here in one of those by making an advanced early villager read or something

 

I don't think the wolves have a major thread presence in this game, I think they are actively hiding in the SLANK zone, but that's just gut instincts

Songstress Spam Master

Songstress

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OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Sili (1) - jmm
Tommy (3) - Sarmtosser, Tina, Lenlo
jmm (2) - Sili, CorMish
Pral (3) - Sleeper, Tommy, Manbat
Manbat (1) - Pral

Not voting (2): Err, HalliYates


With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, December 10 @ 8:30 PM MST
Countdown Link: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141210T2030&p0=197&msg=DAY+ONE+DEADLINE&csz=1

MOD NOTES:
* Mish will be unavailable from now until Thursday, December 11
* Remember you must unvote if you wish to change your vote.

Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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Spews Tina v

Cory v (you gon die)

Lenlo w possibly

Sili v possibly

One wolf in Err Hoya JMM and one of those is not like the others

I would yolo guess: Err v, Hoya v and JMM w

Tommy v, and I think it's extremely wolfy how lightly he's treating me considering how I have zero content

Manbat v

Guessing level 0 that he's waiting to push SalamiDice after I flip

Leaving Yates option open could mean w/v or w/w with that Monstr connection that is almost definitely a "fake villagery observation"

 

Bad post, it lacks both the depth and paranoja for deep wolves that I expect from him

 

Aligns more with his "gotta mention everyone in a balanced manner" scum game

 

Notice how all the notes are about the same size

 

That isn't specifically wolfy in itself but it's not villagery for analytics types who tend to go all-in on a crazy theory

 

Overall that post reads as "here's the current state of the thread" instead of "here's what I'm thinking"

 

These were all things that crossed my mind

Going to be hard defending you for once this game

Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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I have Yates as a villagery because of mechanics nonsense that I don't think anyone understands just YET but will become apparent later I think

With that said he could easily just have information from the moderator

 

The only other game I've played in by Tress there was a no character claim rule so I assume with that rule not here she has fake claims and potential flavor info for the wolves

 

It's sort of a "you'll know it when you see it" thing - just a reminder that slot is in no way clear.

 

If Pral is a wolf I think Lenlo could be his partner on absolute level 1 but I don't mind being on level 1 right now

Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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FWIW I don't know if he is but I really, really want jmm to be a villager

 

There was something about his double spoiler post that just made me feel he was a villager

 

Is that weird?

Cory Caboose Spam Master

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I have every thought in the world that Pral assumed Tommy would get lynched today and left him as a "middling villager" pre-flip and pushed elsewhere as a "I knew it!" sort of thing and an advance to go into tomorrow after I'm dead and can no longer hard defend dice

 

I actually suddenly really feel good about this

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