[Basic/Standard] A Wind in the Door Mafia - GAME OVER, TOWN WINS

[csarmi]

 

Anyway, so far Tina looks the most townish - don't see her playing rash as scum.

Wat? Where do you see "rash?" I see a "look I'm being serious and solvey!" throwaway vote.

  

For it to be rash it's implicit that Sili is a townie also

Did you just SLIP UP you scummioso

Busted!!

Tina spewed town.

[Babar Hasan Khan]

Here is what's going on.

 

Yates holstered his RB and tried to kill me outright. Risks being viewed and gives an extra clear but lulls us into a fake confidence (when we still miss the last needed clear to pocket the game). Its a long shot but town is supposed to mislynch now and tonight he can be sure I be protecting Sleeper. He blocks Sleeper. Kills me. And talks him through two more days.

Yes its a long shot but in a bad situation. And with us gone he would actually stand a chance.

 

[unvote]

[V]Yates [/v]

 

What I said before... Plus he is the only one I see capable of pulling this through here as Mafia.

i dont think there is any roleblock mafia in the game left.... otherwise mafia would have definately blocked and killed you in N3 or atleast roleblocked sleeper... there was not need to play the fake confidence card since night kill in N3 was probably the last and the most important chance for mafia to win........ i know everyone thinks that the last mafia will not be the godfather since it would make that team strong.. but with an innocent child in town team, a gf could exist... if it is the case they would not prefer to kill sleeper at all since his views would be useless and could possibly vindicate gf. so that would make only you the priority target...

 

anyway with 8 players left in the game (no survivor and 3 confirmed towns, one cleared by cop, and one mafia) we should just lynch through unconfirmed roles... the only way the mafia would win would be to get mislynches and night kills all the way to D7 (very very unlikely)

 

i would still prefer to vote Manbat over Yates.

[Babar Hasan Khan]

 

Cory and sili are villagers based on their first posts

Boom already getting started.

  

CORY I AM EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEMELY EXCITED

I AM READS TO WIN

THEY SHOULD MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT US CRUSHING WOLVES

  

Anyway, so far Tina looks the most townish - don't see her playing rash as scum.

Monstr and Tina are always town here. Always.

 

?? how can u conclude this on a two weeks old post

[csarmi]

Monstr

Csarmi

Pral

Tina

Need two more villager for QUICKEST SOLVE OF ALL TIME

  

 

 

 

Cory might be scum

Likelyhood?

30-40% max

I just dislike when he goes full aggro to start and disagrees with me on basic stuff

Cory explain the Tina read cuz it's bad juju over here

What I left for Mish:

There are a lot of people I am good at reading at in this game: Monstr, Csarmi/Dice, Tina, Hallia off the top of my head. So we should have a good foothold to get into the game and start narrowing down suspects.

I already am pretty confident Monstr is a villager. In context with our recent games I think that intro is much more likely to come from villager!monstr, but if we get to Day 2 I'll have a 100% read on him after that.

Csarmi still too early but trending good and am going to give him leeway. With space he can be a really obvious villager. Being tied to dice should make it even more obvious.

Tina opening with an FOS of Sili is not only something I don't really disagree with, it's also something that I think Tina is much more likely to do as a villager. She's very self-conscious as scum and tries not to make waves. If she WERE mafia she almost never votes a bro there, so you can cross off a Mafia team with Tina and Sili from the board completely. But I think she's just more than likely town, like csarmi I should know her alignment by the end of Day 1.

I have a lot of mental tricks for how to read Hallia.

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Come @ me bro. I'll bury you if I have to.

QFT.

[csarmi]

 

 

Cory and sili are villagers based on their first posts

Boom already getting started.

 

  

CORY I AM EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEMELY EXCITED

I AM READS TO WIN

THEY SHOULD MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT US CRUSHING WOLVES

 

  

Anyway, so far Tina looks the most townish - don't see her playing rash as scum.

 

Monstr and Tina are always town here. Always.

?? how can u conclude this on a two weeks old post

Dunno. Re-living the moment.

 

But.

 

Pral's observation is valid. Pral is also GOAT like that. Pral flipped town.

 

Monstr speaking to Cory is pure heartfelt towning joy. Moreover, if there was a pretending there, Cory of all people would have caught it. Think about you playing RL mafia with someone you know in and out. Would they be able to lie like that into your face without you catching it? Would they risk it?

[Babar Hasan Khan]

the only thing i have in my notes about Tina is that she has been really really good not to get a single vote against her since the game started.

 

D1: votes on tina 0

D2: votes on tina 0

D3: votes on tina 0

 

no one in the game has gone after her as a mafia.... i am guessing cause there was no reason too.. i went to her posts once more... there is no slip, no claims and no strong stance against anyone.... so there is also no reason for me to suspect her a mafia but that doesnt mean she is townish... the only reason i am inclined towards her being town only because there is a lack of scumminess.

 

She seems to be really good player to be actively involved in the game and not to attract any real heat on her. 

[csarmi]

 

No, that wasn't defending. And as far as I'm aware defending someone early when you know them isn't a scum tell.

 

Sili by the way. Or SQ. But most call me Sili.

 

 

And defending yourself with a "scum-would-never-do-that". *Shakes head*

 

 

No, that wasn't defending. And as far as I'm aware defending someone early when you know them isn't a scum tell.

 

Sili by the way. Or SQ. But most call me Sili.

 

 

yeah this kinda boils down to a "scum wouldnt do this" argument. Thus    baguette

 

*high five*

 

Greeting, everyone!  Been out of mafia a while but here goes...

I have to admit this should be amusing to watch you try to read someone you've never seen before… commence!

 

 

There are a lot of new players in this game that I can´t meta read. But to be fair, my memory is so bad that I can´t meta read people that I have played years with.

 

I already have two villagers and one sort of confident villager

Feelsgoodman.gif

 

 

I´m one, right?

 

 

 

Anyway, so far Tina looks the most townish - don't see her playing rash as scum.

 

Wat? Where do you see "rash?" I see a "look I'm being serious and solvey!" throwaway vote.

 

Yeah, I don't see her doing that as scum. She is extra careful when she is scum.

 

I´m trying to change that but I´m rarely mafia.

 

 

Anyway, so far Tina looks the most townish - don't see her playing rash as scum.

 

Pral found my third villager :)

 

I knew it. Not that it clears you, but you always know if I´m town early. 

 

Monstr

Csarmi

Pral

Tina

Need two more villager for QUICKEST SOLVE OF ALL TIME

 

 

Tell me about Manbat. (=Moster?)

 

Before someone asks why I'm grumpier than usual today

I woke up feeling like a train wreck and work today turned into a series of "hey can you do this over the weekend?"

And I would much rather plan my mash game than do work this weekend

But now I feel guilty and anxious about it

 

 

Weekends are for relaxing, not working. :(

Posts like thiz is why Cory read Tina as town.

 

She gets no votes cause i think she's been a consensus townie since D1. I have even protected her N1!

 

Anx yes Err d1 posts are very telling on a reread.

[Babar Hasan Khan]

 

 

 

Cory and sili are villagers based on their first posts

Boom already getting started.

  

CORY I AM EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEMELY EXCITED

I AM READS TO WIN

THEY SHOULD MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT US CRUSHING WOLVES

  

Anyway, so far Tina looks the most townish - don't see her playing rash as scum.

Monstr and Tina are always town here. Always.

?? how can u conclude this on a two weeks old post

Dunno. Re-living the moment.

 

But.

 

Pral's observation is valid. Pral is also GOAT like that. Pral flipped town.

 

Monstr speaking to Cory is pure heartfelt towning joy. Moreover, if there was a pretending there, Cory of all people would have caught it. Think about you playing RL mafia with someone you know in and out. Would they be able to lie like that into your face without you catching it? Would they risk it?

 

ok i do not know cory that much to blindly trust his reads on D1.... all that i am saying is that we should give more wait to recent days compared to D1.... yes Prals first observation on day 1 may seem valid and he did flip town... but a VT town.... how does his first post still carry such a strong wait 2 weeks after?? 

 

dont get me wrong.... there might actually be valid reasons for you and others to think manbat is town.... all i am saying is that i do not understand the fact that the only reason is based on what cory or pral thought in D1 with no real information... there has to be more

[csarmi]

That's where you are wrong. D1 is the most important part in a reread.

 

Town have least infoemation possible (easier to act natural).

 

Mafia don't know who to push yet. There are landmines everywhere.

 

Think about it this way: the biggest gap between town and wolf knowledge and all is at gamestart. VERY important to reread that.

[Babar Hasan Khan]

 

 

No, that wasn't defending. And as far as I'm aware defending someone early when you know them isn't a scum tell.

 

Sili by the way. Or SQ. But most call me Sili.

 

And defending yourself with a "scum-would-never-do-that". *Shakes head*

 

 

No, that wasn't defending. And as far as I'm aware defending someone early when you know them isn't a scum tell.

 

Sili by the way. Or SQ. But most call me Sili.

 

yeah this kinda boils down to a "scum wouldnt do this" argument. Thus    baguette

 

*high five*

 

Greeting, everyone!  Been out of mafia a while but here goes...

I have to admit this should be amusing to watch you try to read someone you've never seen before… commence!

 

There are a lot of new players in this game that I can´t meta read. But to be fair, my memory is so bad that I can´t meta read people that I have played years with.

 

I already have two villagers and one sort of confident villager

Feelsgoodman.gif

 

I´m one, right?

 

 

 

Anyway, so far Tina looks the most townish - don't see her playing rash as scum.

Wat? Where do you see "rash?" I see a "look I'm being serious and solvey!" throwaway vote.

 

Yeah, I don't see her doing that as scum. She is extra careful when she is scum.

 

I´m trying to change that but I´m rarely mafia.

 

 

Anyway, so far Tina looks the most townish - don't see her playing rash as scum.

Pral found my third villager :)

 

I knew it. Not that it clears you, but you always know if I´m town early. 

 

Monstr

Csarmi

Pral

Tina

Need two more villager for QUICKEST SOLVE OF ALL TIME

 

Tell me about Manbat. (=Moster?)

 

Before someone asks why I'm grumpier than usual today

I woke up feeling like a train wreck and work today turned into a series of "hey can you do this over the weekend?"

And I would much rather plan my mash game than do work this weekend

But now I feel guilty and anxious about it

 

Weekends are for relaxing, not working. :(

Posts like thiz is why Cory read Tina as town.

 

She gets no votes cause i think she's been a consensus townie since D1. I have even protected her N1!

 

Anx yes Err d1 posts are very telling on a reread.

 

i still dont get it... may b i m missing something here.... as i said before the only thing i see is lack of tough stance on suspecting anyone.... that leaves me to also believe that she is the most townish of the remaining players.... i dont think we are disputing this fact here.

[csarmi]

 

hey salami. i'm counting on your wacky intuition to solve the game lol.

 

 

gonna need an explanation on the lol at the end. . .

 

Usually dingus starts like this.  First post is all posturing, then he warms up and town tells like mad.

 

 

. . . since the follow-up posts are immediately a different tone

Sleeper GOAT.

 

To follow my last thought: D1 has the most players and especially the most players we already have flips info on.

[Babar Hasan Khan]

That's where you are wrong. D1 is the most important part in a reread.

 

Town have least infoemation possible (easier to act natural).

 

Mafia don't know who to push yet. There are landmines everywhere.

 

Think about it this way: the biggest gap between town and wolf knowledge and all is at gamestart. VERY important to reread that.

hmm.... ok.... i will then have to reread day 1 with that in mind.... it was the longest day of the game (more then half of the posts) errrrrr

[Babar Hasan Khan]

 

 

Err could you analyse D1 with focus on HallyYates stances and actions?

k checked over my notes... here is what i have on him so far..

 

 

on D1 Lenlo, Sili and DiceCsarmi have a townish feeling for Yates,

Jmm, Manbat and Pral have a mafiaish feeling for Yates,

 

Cory initially suspects Yates to be mafia but in the end a towny.

 

D1 he has voted against Lenlo, Sili and Err, 

D2 he has voted against Sili (after cop investigation reveal) and Err

 

he has voted for no lynch twice

 

 

P819.... is yates soft claiming a cop?? 

 

D1 Yate reveals his character name and links it to the main character

 

D1 Yates soft claiming doc??

 

D1 Cory and Yates Standoff: Yates seems townish

 

D2 Yates is super super suspicious of Err

 

P2066... is yates soft claiming a cop??

 

P2167 Yates suggests lynching Err again as a possible candidate

 

P2177  Yates :  'we are an angel... no you claimed special character so u cant be VT!!'    a contradictory statement

 

 

Weird way you keep track of things.

 

May I see your full set of notes? No editing, just paste in.

 

sure... i hope i dont mess up the editting again

 

 

Sili suggests to town tell in the beginning of the game to track mafia faster, dice sort of disagrees

Tommy hard claims scum (roleblocker) ????

 

Manbat voting Sili after toms roleblock claim

 

Sili reads on me as village even tough i have not said much so far.

 

Tommy hard claims Survivor claims Sleeper Service is one of the two wolves.

 

 

Post 582 sleepers tally

 

 

references to VT game, Krak game, POG, VS, discoworld, Des reference, doc who, Firefly… check them

 

mish asks for tomms character

 

@csarmi @ post769 uncalled for

 

Yates is claiming cop role?? post 819

 

jmm kind of stuck on yates first post for being suspicious of her (post 830)

 

after yates reveiled his character manbat voted for sili when i thought he would go after Leno, jmm, Pral or Yates,

#976 manbat bomb?

 

Soft claim vig P1284

 

Tom all over the place… votes for everyone except tina…. His suspicion list also excludes her… interesting.

 

@ corry and Yates stand off:

Cory pushing yates for lynch. yates didnt crack under pressure. possibly both corry and yates town?.

Yates character reveal looks real

jmm and manbat casually also started suspecting yates over things that are very innocent. potentially making grounds for there lynch vote on yates look legit later on???

 

after yates revealed his character. manbat changed his vote for sili... he should have voted for leno, jmm, Pral or Yates, based on his suspicion list..

mafia for manbat?? Vote him?

 

 

csarmi – cop?? post 1579 again in post 1713

manbat lynch not likely…. Deadline close… other candidates?

#1874 deadline moved to Monday

 

p1914 there is also the third claim by DiceCsarmi of something

 

p1935 sleeper going after csarmi after his solf claim as jail keeper

 

Csarmi un-necessary claiming with no real pressure

 

Yates is super super suspicious of Err

 

p2066 yates claiming a cop

 

p2068 sleeper gets to peek people? Cop?? who did u peek in N1 ??

 

p2081 sleeper never said he peeped silli in N1.... so why does he think that if sili flips town, sleeper will be mafia??

 

p2100 sili protected tonight?? casually unvotes Err

 

p2136 dice votes sleeper?!?!?!?!?!?!?

 

p2158 i was expecting this reply to come from sleeper

 

p2159 how did sleeper know u were a cop????

 

p2167 yates suggesting possibly lynching me again

Sleeper inpects sili as mafia… reread sili

Sleeper flips mafia… roleblock…. More than one roleblock??

p2171 all king of wrongs

best tom lynch day 3/ day4 no questions asked… could be fake claim

 

p2177 yates: we are an angel... no you claimed special character so u cant be VT!!

 

Tomm flips mafia…

 

Tomm and sili seems to be similar lynch trains at time… 

[Babar Hasan Khan]

apart from that i had the voting list and suspicion list

[Babar Hasan Khan]

i have not written notes for night 3 and day 4 yet..

[Babar Hasan Khan]

oh and there were some hand written notes too

[Babar Hasan Khan]

i think i m going to vote now... since tomorrow is a working day here... but will checkin before the deadline from the office.

 

Vote Manbat

[monstrman]

Lol at voting me still.

 

Glglgl village prolly wins no matter what and this is why I said I don't really care to put in the effort to clear myself because people like err are going to tunnel me all game anyway.

 

Not coming back except to check if lynlynched or won. If I survive the night I'm voting then dipping again.

 

Games in your guys' hands now I'm done putting in work.

[csarmi]

I am Meg Murry, and you are all very very bad. I have a little brother named Charles who is dying or something and I'm really concerned about that, so I get to peek people (word).

 

Sili is NOT TOWN. Tom is ALWAYS doing whatever benefits Sili. Err is ~ never a wolf because Sili wanted that mislynch. I'm next going to re-read day 1 and see who else Sili and chiefly Tom insisted upon preserving. 

 

This also makes my d1 wolf list 1 for 2 (sorry Pral), and indicates strongly that jmm is ALSO not a wolf because Tom and Sili seem to want to preserve that little nugget too.

 

Sili gets very salty about villager reads on low posters, which is why he cares about me being "stagnant."

 

If you don't save my life tonight you're abysmal.

Ahha

[csarmi]

Lol at voting me still.

Glglgl village prolly wins no matter what and this is why I said I don't really care to put in the effort to clear myself because people like err are going to tunnel me all game anyway.

Not coming back except to check if lynlynched or won. If I survive the night I'm voting then dipping again.

Games in your guys' hands now I'm done putting in work.

What do you think about Err? And stuff.

[Niniel]

You might be right about a gf.

 

I think that i will stay on Monstr but could be willing to change to Yates/Hally. Not sure if I can get on before dl. When is it? I have family coming over soon.

[csarmi]

Monstr what do you think about Err's progression? Also talk to me about Yates.

 

Get your backside back here. For the sake of the Correh that was tragically taken away from ua N1.

[csarmi]

I am not lynching monstr ever Tina.

 

Deadline is close. Pick Hally or pick Err.

[csarmi]

Deadline is 10am in whatever timezone Tress has. I think.

[Niniel]

Okay. I'll trust you. Monstr can wait for tomorrow if Yates is. town. Don't get too hung up. On Cory's reads.

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] Yates/Hally [/v]