[Basic/Standard] A Wind in the Door Mafia - GAME OVER, TOWN WINS

[Sleeper Service]

Sorry, haven't had a chance to really hard re-read yet. I'll get to that before Saturday. I'm tempted to say monstr sounds villager-y here, which means the game is nearly won.

 

I have conflicting instincts about HallyYates. I still feel like their claim was pretty BS when it happened, but I just don't understand the role possibilities on this site (clearly). They sound basically fine. 

 

Can someone make me comfortable that all the claims that lock clear people are verified and strong? I don't love the one about the mod spewing the role clear, seems uncertain to me. 

 

Finally, my instinct on Err is that I was clearing him on tone when I was also clearing Lenlo and jmm for similar reasons, and I was right about those two (which isn't saying anything impressive, but might be relevant). 

 

In short, let's have like a clarifying powwow before running off for spew again.

[monstrman]

 

 

It feels like nobody even consider lynching Monstr. Why is that? I haven't had the time to re-read his posts. Is there annything there that show that he is town? I hope I get the time tonight.

Why are you voting Err?

Cory cleared him for 100%. He is good at clearing villagers and reading Monstr.

Also he is working now.

I agree about Cory but he died on N1 (early game) and never wanted to lynch Tommy.

I'll see about his work. It seems to lead to "I don't know". It sounded like he had given up earlier. I'll try to read his posts later.

I've far from given up but I want to hear why you think halliyates shouldn't be lynched before me.

[monstrman]

Sorry, haven't had a chance to really hard re-read yet. I'll get to that before Saturday. I'm tempted to say monstr sounds villager-y here, which means the game is nearly won.

 

I have conflicting instincts about HallyYates. I still feel like their claim was pretty BS when it happened, but I just don't understand the role possibilities on this site (clearly). They sound basically fine. 

 

Can someone make me comfortable that all the claims that lock clear people are verified and strong? I don't love the one about the mod spewing the role clear, seems uncertain to me. 

 

Finally, my instinct on Err is that I was clearing him on tone when I was also clearing Lenlo and jmm for similar reasons, and I was right about those two (which isn't saying anything impressive, but might be relevant). 

 

In short, let's have like a clarifying powwow before running off for spew again.

Jmm is clear the role exists.

[monstrman]

Jmm - innocent child

Sleeper Service - cop

lenlo - peek, spew, tone

sarmtosser - doc etc

 

Mech clear.

[monstrman]

So you think tina/halliyates hoya?

[dicetosser1]

Sorry, haven't had a chance to really hard re-read yet. I'll get to that before Saturday. I'm tempted to say monstr sounds villager-y here, which means the game is nearly won.

 

I have conflicting instincts about HallyYates. I still feel like their claim was pretty BS when it happened, but I just don't understand the role possibilities on this site (clearly). They sound basically fine. 

 

Can someone make me comfortable that all the claims that lock clear people are verified and strong? I don't love the one about the mod spewing the role clear, seems uncertain to me. 

 

Finally, my instinct on Err is that I was clearing him on tone when I was also clearing Lenlo and jmm for similar reasons, and I was right about those two (which isn't saying anything impressive, but might be relevant). 

 

In short, let's have like a clarifying powwow before running off for spew again.

 

that wasnt mod SPEW  it is mod CLEAR sleeper

[csarmi]

I am clear. Doc claim. No CC. Two saves.

Sleeper is clear. Cop claim. No CC. Wolves failed a kill on him.

JMM is clear. Innocent child is town by definition.

 

Lenlo is clear unless Mafia is gf+1*rb+1*rb. That's a distant possibility. Is there some sort of boss enemy in the theme? Otherwise its prolly just 3rd guy is identical again.

 

No one else is mechanically clear on any level.

[Sleeper Service]

I mean unfortunately I'm at everyone else's mercy with regard to who is and is not mechanically clear. If Godfathers are impossible in everyone's opinion, then I'm going to assume that's true. If you tell me innocent child is a lock, then I'm going to assume that's true. I'm fine with that if that's just the deal. 

 

I don't know what I think. I have something about you I want to research that relates to my theory that Tom and friends were just hard open wolfing and allying themselves in every decision. I ranted at Sili about this on day 2, and at Tom on day 1 and 2. I recall thinking you were pretty aligned with them at that time. Now I need to look it up and see if my memory is correct.

[csarmi]

Godfathers are not impossible. A 3rd 1xRB is more likwly2tho.

[csarmi]

Innocent Child is a lock.

 

You and me are practically clear.

[monstrman]

It's not lenlo though.

[dicetosser1]

monstr

 

i locked yates/halli in early at the claim. then after sleepers claim i startd tinfoiling but offsetting that tinfoil was how yates did his gambit. he totally wimfomd it he never made a claim never said a result etc. Me/Csarmi were doing the same thing.

 

Tina is clear to me on tone  esp her sili case. We were on the same page but her case was so much better then mine.

 

ive been tinfoiling on you right thru. yes cory vouched for you but I cant clear you myself. everyone who clears you does it early and easy but i dont see why or how they do it. your posts come across to me as short and not very informative tho i have noticed you get longer late game.

 

as for theories??  i think its err   he has made no sense to me all game. there was that  claim which he still hasnt answered me about. I dont expect a GF  i think itd be too much with all those RBs. mind you all those RBS threw me cause i didnt expect that in a basic game.

 

 

One thing i want   and i havent got to do this yet cause i cant get to it at work but i want to get to that link where sili outted himself in that other game. i have this suspicion that that was a gambit and if it is you monstr are a dead mafia

[dicetosser1]

sleeper THIS is why jmm is locked town

 

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Innocent_Child

[csarmi]

Something deep down keeps saying it's Yates. I keep hushing it down.

 

Don't matter much anyway now we just lynch all uncertain people and gg.

[dicetosser1]

right so i checked that slip and it does exist.

 

 

@Monstr   explain to me that vote on lenlo during the tom lynch?

 

 

no one else weigh into this discussion for now plz

[monstrman]

Dice you never clear me.

 

It makes me sad.

[csarmi]

Dice you never clear me.

It makes me sad.

Will clear you when you flip :-)

 

TBH my clear on you is flimsy and 90% Correh based.

[monstrman]

You guys can probably lynch me and still win so tbh I don't really care to get into a drag out lock down argument about whether I'm a villager or not.

 

Call me a villager or a wolf and own the read.

 

I wish I could help more but I just can't.

[monstrman]

I've reread quite a bit.

 

The mech clears are mech clear.

 

Like I said we lynch in my progression, we lynch the wolf.

 

You guys lynch me, fine we get a peek tonight anyway.

 

Game is probably lock.

 

I just want to get it right today.

[csarmi]

I think you are a villa monstr.

 

Feeling better?

[monstrman]

Tina/err/halliyates lynches the wolf.

[monstrman]

I don't know which of the three I feel like voting

 

I feel like hallia has been absent forever.

[monstrman]

I don't know why I feel like that maybe because I never engaged her

 

Err suspected me at a point where I was prolly low hanging fruit with only a cory clear keeping me truly in the game.

[monstrman]

Tina refuses to adjust her read on me, I don't know how to respond to that.

[monstrman]

Tina looks good for her vote d1

 

Err looks good because of wolves pushing him somewhere I can't remember where should reread

 

Halliyates also had some good votes I think too