[Standard] 11/10 Top Tier Vanilla+ Game Thread

[Sili Quirrels]

Sup wilf.  You still got 58 minutes to post lolcats.

yes. in my experience towns that troll aren't really towns.

 

they're wolves.

[Sili Quirrels]

i'm cool. lynch me. i'll laugh in the dead thread.

[WWWwombat]

Going the no info route, eh?  Probably the best idea all things considered.

[Stelio Kontos]

Sili, thoughts on the game to this point would seem to be your best move

[Sili Quirrels]

Sili, thoughts on the game to this point would seem to be your best move

It's day 1. whatever I say won't be very accurate.

 

Don't really feel the wim, but here maybe a little.

 

songstress, pral, kivam, and wombat shouldn't be let off the hook when/if i'm dead.

[Tommyrod]

Vote Count D1.26:

 

Sili (8): Kivam [#362], Krak [#1026], Wombat [#1213], Verbarm [#1239], AJ [#1779], Leelou [#1781], Diceman [#1799], Tress [#1823]

Pral (4): Nyn [#691], Yates [#698], Sili [#700], Thane [#1299]

Dice (3): Darthe [#1685], Stelio [#1805], Deslami [#1810]

DPR (1): Cass [#1566]

 

Unvote (1): Pral [#1323]

 

Not Voting (3): DPR, Hallia, Rags

 

At the gallows: Sili

 

[Stelio Kontos]

[v]##unvote[/v]

[v]Vote: Pral[/v]

 

flame away if wrong

[Tommyrod]

Vote Count D1.27:

 

Sili (8): Kivam [#362], Krak [#1026], Wombat [#1213], Verbarm [#1239], AJ [#1779], Leelou [#1781], Diceman [#1799], Tress [#1823]

Pral (5): Nyn [#691], Yates [#698], Sili [#700], Thane [#1299], Stelio [#1857]

Dice (2): Darthe [#1685], Deslami [#1810]

DPR (1): Cass [#1566]

 

Unvote (1): Pral [#1323]

 

Not Voting (3): DPR, Hallia, Rags

 

At the gallows: Sili

 

[Stelio Kontos]

like, I'm new to this forum and all and you guys have your ways, but if your wolves are winning a lot it's probably partly because you're not putting them in any tough spots at end of day where they have to make decisions

[WWWwombat]

LOCK CLEAR
WWWwombat
Hallia (once scum revenge kill me, she's SHC)

SOLID TOWN
TheRagnarok
Tress
Andrej
Stelio Kontos

TOWN LEAN
Thane Vakarian
Nynaeve (Mentored by Clovdyx)
Leelou
Cass (Mentored by manbat)

NULL/MIXED
dicetosser1
Verbal32 / Barmacral Hydra
Krakalakachkn
Yates.
Kivam
DreadPirateRoberts

SCUM LEAN
Darthe
Despot / csarmi Hydra
Arsis Pralaya

LOCK WOLF
Sili Quirrels

[Sili Quirrels]

explain your reasoning behind lock wolf sili again wombat?

 

i didn't catch it between the hysteria.

[WWWwombat]

HEY GUYS I THINK I MADE A MISTAKE DO YOU THINK WE COULD SWING A DPR CFD?

[Sili Quirrels]

HEY GUYS I THINK I MADE A MISTAKE DO YOU THINK WE COULD SWING A DPR CFD?

id honestly prefer if you lynch me at this point instead of something so inane.

 

or cfd yourself if you honestly think that.

[hazelkrs1]

HEY GUYS I THINK I MADE A MISTAKE DO YOU THINK WE COULD SWING A DPR CFD?

H8U. H8U so freaking much.

 

You're not funny btw.

[Stelio Kontos]

HEY GUYS I THINK I MADE A MISTAKE DO YOU THINK WE COULD SWING A DPR CFD?

 

seems rather unlikely at this juncture

[Tommyrod]

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[Yates]

The funny thing is I can't even really articulate a single reason why Sili is an objectively bad lynch; it just feels wrong in this moment.

Lack of traction.

 

We can just lynch Pral. Arsis was not playing his normal Town game and Pral can't even bother to play his slot. At least Sili is engaging the thread and looking like normal Sili to me.

[Tommyrod]

Vote Count D1.27:

 

Sili (8): Kivam [#362], Krak [#1026], Wombat [#1213], Verbarm [#1239], AJ [#1779], Leelou [#1781], Diceman [#1799], Tress [#1823]

Pral (5): Nyn [#691], Yates [#698], Sili [#700], Thane [#1299], Stelio [#1857]

Dice (2): Darthe [#1685], Deslami [#1810]

DPR (1): Cass [#1566]

 

Unvote (1): Pral [#1323]

 

Not Voting (3): DPR, Hallia, Rags

 

At the gallows: Sili

 

 

 

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Posting after 9:01 PM is not permitted.

 

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5 minutes left.

[Sili Quirrels]

how has my wagon had a lack of ttraction?

[hazelkrs1]

##[unvote]

 

[V]##Pray[/v]

 

Thinking it's possible he might be townie too, but meh Sili is a stronger town read for me now

[Sili Quirrels]

it's almost been too easy. it actually has been too easy.

 

too many people have put stamp on me @20 pages and left it there until now.

[Cass]

And, for that matter, does it bother you that NONE of the people you have cleared as villagers is voting the person you are voting in this spot?

I'm ok with a vote against Sili

 

Dice, in what ways are Thane and Nyn "acting according to their meta as town"?  Be as specific as possible.

 

It's not even that I disagree with those reads, but I want your thought processes here.  If you have time to bitch at someone about CFDs, you have time to articulate your thoughts. Because right now, I think you're just making stuff random lists.

 

Hopefully you can understand why "I'm going to lynch this other person because (magic unicorns)" is not something I'm going to lend any credibility whatsoever to.

I would like to hear these answers too

 

 

Pretty sure we're about to lynch a townie btw

 

You know, in case anyone cares about that sort of thing

 

Interesting.  Sili is not a townie.  That's a very strong statement from a slot that has not interacted much with Sili apart from what could be categorized as distancing and soft defending, though.

 

What makes you think Sili is town?  And don't mention DPR in your answer.

 

And this

 

I would TOTALLY be fine with letting someone get a pass for saying they wanna lynch someone because of magic unicorns

 

 

Especially in my next game -

*noted*

 

The funny thing is I can't even really articulate a single reason why Sili is an objectively bad lynch; it just feels wrong in this moment.

ME TOO! But  think I'm nearly there.

 

 

That post is entirely alignment-neutral.

 

Also, love how you couldn't resist mentioning DPR.  As Yates has already pointed out, however, the opinions on seer cover this game seem more to be related to previous experience than alignment.

 

If you think that post is alignment-neutral, you know absolute jack shit about tone reading

 

And no, previous experience doesn't really have ANY relevance here

 

DPR kept on about the seer cover thing more than almost anyone else in the game

 

Yet continuously kept fos'ing the people who were trying to explain/discuss it earlier

 

Sili pointed this out in a VERY townline manner

 

Again, if you can't see that, then you're just being obtuse and unwilling to admit you're way off this game

 

BINGO! The reason Sili feels wrong to me is because - if DPR is Scum (which I think he is) Then the whole seer cover debate debacle thing with Yates .... I feel like Yates may have been set up by Sili, playing like Town, Scumming alongside DPR...

 

[Yates]

No one seems to actually care about this lynch. No one that's voted recently ever tried engaging Sili while he was around

 

READ THE SIGNS PEOPLE

Seriously. Des *IS* writing my posts.

 

Like, Leelou literally voted Sili for no reason other than because Wombat said so. And that was okay?

[Tommyrod]

Vote Count D1.28:

Sili (8): Kivam [#362], Krak [#1026], Wombat [#1213], Verbarm [#1239], AJ [#1779], Leelou [#1781], Diceman [#1799], Tress [#1823]
Pral (6): Nyn [#691], Yates [#698], Sili [#700], Thane [#1299], Stelio [#1857], Deslami [#1870]
Dice (1): Darthe [#1685]
DPR (1): Cass [#1566]

Unvote (1): Pral [#1323]

Not Voting (3): DPR, Hallia, Rags

At the gallows: Sili

[WWWwombat]

Ok, guys so, the reason there was little action right at EOD is because the Cromwell Approval implies extreme certainty, possibly to the point of a Seer softclaim.  So anyone who was in on it (town or scum) would probably not have gone against me after that.  The fact that not many people reacted to it means that we could possibly have an oldbie player on the mafia team.  Either that or Sili is a wolf and they pissed their pants once I launched my pseudo-CFD on him.

 

As for the people who did react, Stelio's reaction was pretty townish imo.  Yates's was slightly townish but had a hint of displeasure, so that could be either TMI or being mad at not getting DPR lynched.  Des was pretty wolfy as he started defending Sili a lot harder than he had previously and talking about how I let "scum!DPR" off the hook when, if he were town, he probably should've considered alternative possibilities.  If Sili flips town or SK, Des looks pretty bad imo.  That being said, I don't think Des would have pushed a mislynch on DPR this hard as a wolf, so I think wolf!Des and town!DPR is a very unlikely combo.  I think they are either town/town or DPR is a wolf.

 

Sheeping me is null.  Mafia and town would both have had reason to.

 

As for why Sili, I thought he was a superior info lynch to either DPR or Pral.  I also thought he was more likely to flip scum than DPR.  Sili's play has been internally inconsistent both logically and emotionally and reads as self-conscious.  He has also had sketchy interactions with Nyn, Arsis/Pral, Darthe, Thane, AJ, Leelou, Deslami, and myself.  All of those occur before p. 22.

 

Sili was the best lynch today.  We would have learned almost nothing from town flips for Pral and DPR.  I personally hope he flips SK, as that would eliminate an anti-town kill and give us good info on the wolves imo.