[Standard] 11/10 Top Tier Vanilla+ Game Thread

[csarmi]

Just ate and emo if you will. I dont mind. There is too low emo here anyway.

 

Do this for me. Just this.

 

Read the last 10 pages. Tell me which players seem to believe in what they say and push.

[csarmi]

Tress i stood up for you. I admire your play. I know you have problems.

 

Please do this for me.

 

Please.

[Tommyrod]

Vote Count D5.04:

 

Tress (2): Thane [#3702], Deslami [#3758]

Deslami (1): Cass [#3732]

 

Not Voting (3): Dice, Tress, Pral

 

At the gallows: Tress

 

Reminder: players not voting at EOD will be voting for themselves.

 

[Tommyrod]

Vote Count D5.04:

 

Tress (2): Thane [#3702], Deslami [#3758]

Deslami (1): Cass [#3732]

 

Not Voting (3): Dice, Tress, Pral

 

At the gallows: Tress

 

Reminder: players not voting at EOD will be voting for themselves.

 

[csarmi]

Meh its prolly Thane.

 

Cass wouldnt be this indecisive at day ends.

Tress is prolly legit.

[csarmi]

Actually. It may be Tress. She would feel the same way as SK too I believe. In this position.

 

Anyway i am reading up on T.

[Cass]

Unfortunately I am not indecisive on this. I do believe what I am saying.

 

I don't see why people have you clear.

 

It's 4:25 am, just woke up to deal with a low BGL. Going back to bed will see what everyone's saying/what you've come up with on Tress in the real morning.

[csarmi]

If you are serious look at the whole picture not parts of it.

[csarmi]

  On 11/14/2014 at 12:04 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

whoever targeted Yates, well done!

 

Leelou and Stelio....they shall be missed

SK killed Yates almost surely. That'd be rather sleek from Thane if he were it.

[csarmi]

I think it is Tress and she's legit frustrated and tired of the game. As SK.

 

No worries TressLove. Won't be long now.

[csarmi]

Cass: she genuinely cared about the lynches. Could she pull that act off every single day?

 

Don't think so.

[Cass]

Csarmi, I have been. If you are serious, help me find real reasons why I'm wrong and, more importantly, give me something 'concrete' on someone else. That's the biggest sticking point for me. I have been looking. Can't find anything else 'specific'.

 

If your blustering is legit then not even you are confident in anyone else for SK at this point, I don't see how that's supposed to make me change my mind.

 

Lay out your reasons for who else you think might be SK. I'll check when I wake up.

 

Srsly, back in bed now. Need sleep. Stop pushing. GL Town.

[csarmi]

  On 11/14/2014 at 3:41 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

what i think happened during last night isn't necessarily what actually happened, just my personal idea of the events. And nobody stepping forward will not solve anything either. 

 

I'm no experienced player, so yeah... i type what makes sense to me, not necessarily something that would make sense to others.

 

Thane discusses sk kills these pages.

[Cass]

Sorry phone post delay. Just saw posts from 440am on. Get what you're saying about Tress, that's pretty much why I've got her as second pref. But I'm just as frustrated and I'm Town, so could just be legit. If you come up with more, great. She's at the gallows anyway. See you all in a few hrs.

[csarmi]

Already told you why you're wrong.

Read stuff in context. Treat the game as dynamic.

[csarmi]

Do you know why DARTHE was scum? Not because he tried to solve and to look town. Not because he looked active. Not because he apparently had WiM. He was right about that.

[csarmi]

Darthe!scum

 

Credibility strikes (Hally, us, whoever was threat)

SitRep with over-enthusiasm (the oh look how well we are doing we do this and that - seen that before)

TownSlapping (omg u guys suck - yea i wanna kill your wim)

Underlying hostility (shows that he don't like being scum)

Preemptive OMGUS (on Despo D1)

Appeal to Salami (wanted to be on my side cause he bought i was reading him town)

[csarmi]

Look at motivations. Willing to solve. Willing to sacrifice self for town good. Pushing pro town ideas. Flexibility. Honesty. No hidden agenda. These are real things.

 

Why would X do this as town? Does it make sense?

[csarmi]

******************************** Dice, READ THIS! ************************************

 

We know you are the odd night Vig because everyone else claimed vanilla. I'm not sure whether you will be arriving before the deadline, as this is your last post:

 

 

  On 11/24/2014 at 8:56 PM, dicetosser1 said:

medium strong cass. its pure meta read tho.

 

top pick   im tinfoiling a bit. I think pral is a definite contender. thane has shook me with his last couple of posts

 

I'm not sure how much time you have for posting or sending your action.

 

In short: You will have to shoot tonight. We will have to know who you're shooting because if we do and your target survives the kill, they are proven to be SK. Either you call your target before deadline or we will call it for you.

 

I'll set my alarm and get back at T-1 (one hour before deadline) and call your target if you haven't called it by then. By not calling it yourself before that time (or after that any time during this day) you are agreeing to do that shot.

 

In long:

 

1) We have discussed today what the best course of action is and figured out that the vig has to be cleared (claimed) now so that the SK cannot fake claim tomorrow. Hence we outed you by having everyone else claim.

 

2) We have discussed what's the best course of action is and it is 100% clear that it makes no sense for you to holster. Reason: if we mislynch, with the SK kill it's gonna be 3-1 and MyLo next day. Which is no better than 2-1 (in case you misfire).

 

3) We have discussed what's the best way to go around your shot. As you are the clear night kill target for the SK, the only way that we learn who you targeted is by you claiming it beforehand (or someone else doing it for you) then following through with it. It is CRUCIAL for us to know who you target because the SK is likely to have a Bulletproof Vest and if they survive your shot they are outed (if they have GF and don't survive your shot, they are outed too).

 

Townies - please post that you read and understood this, that you agree with this course of action (so that Dice knows it's coming from a good source for 100% as there is only one SK) and that you agree with me or Des calling the shot for Dice if he don't arrive.

 

If you wanna call the shot yourself, be my guest (I think we are most clear), but then announce it VERY clearly and make sure there is absolutely ZERO confusion for either Dice OR the other players on who the called target is.

[Songstress]

@ Dice - I agree that you should call your shot.

 

I don't agree that you should let DesLami do it for you.

 

It's pretty clear to me that Csarmi knows I'm not the SK.

[csarmi]

I wish i knew you weren't TressLove.

 

Anyway if you don't agree - call the shot yourself if Dice don't come.

[csarmi]

In fact.

 

You are getting lynched Tress. If you are SK we won.

 

If you aren't, you get cleared by your flip. So Dice will know the call comes from a 100% reliable source in case it even matters.

 

So do it.

 

I know i trust your judgement if you are town.

[csarmi]

BTW... I think Dice should call his own shot. I am just afraid he won't come. So we need a plan B for that.

[csarmi]

Tress on the off chance you're town here.

 

Three reasons you should know i am town.

 

 

1) cause you wouldnt even tinfoil if you understood why we were alive. There is a reason we look town and act town. A very simple one. Just read today.

 

2) cause i would never ever kill Hallia here. Ever. She's a possible tinfoil. She's got no voice. She would never lynch us in this game.

 

3) i would always kill Dice here as it was apparent to me he was the vig (gave you the two main reasons why: the countertrain to the D3 mislynch was him and he wasn't shot + the typical vig reaction to our hint). You know i am a smart one and you know from experience the uncanny ability i have for reading the pr's when anti town (remember trick or treat). And this was an evident one.

 

+1) we wouldn't try to get actively killed the whole game. There was no reason to give everyone including the odd vig and mafia to want to shoot us

[csarmi]

And DO call the shot. You got 3 hours. GL.

 

[i think you are SK]

 

[sorry]