[Standard] Cory vs. Bad Dietary Habits & Laziness Mafia, Mafia Sweep

[Tyler Glembo]

This is possibly the best thing that could happen.

 

So what's the scoop TG? Town? Scum? Some weird third?

 

Haven't seen my role PM yet.  I'm sure Cory will do something awful to me like make me a survivor or something.

 

Who called the gambit? This guy.

The fact that the poisoned dies at EOD instead of EON makes poisoner a more plausible kill flavor for scum. Also means we don't have a healer, fwiw.

 

 

I'm pointing this out for later when Yates disagrees with himself.  Here he says poisoner is likely scum.

 

The main point of the Gambit was that I believed it was pretty likely that there was a town healer out there. Me asking the pointed question saves them the work and keeps them unexposed. Also, it might draw the NK/poison on us.

 

And the question needed yo be asked anyway. Cause its a topic where someone definitely has TMI and we know

 

How do you figure you were trying to draw the NK if the first thing you do at night is say "Oh guys, we were lying and it was a gambit."  That makes literally no sense, not even in CSarmi universe. 

And what do you mean TMI about the healer?  That makes even less sense.

 

But we bring so much happiness and joy into games! Even more than Lenlo.

 

Objectively not true.  Lenlo is the king-god of hap-penis. 

 

Unless this is the actual lie and we are. >=)

 

Stop it.

 

Did you actually take a second to think this through or are you just responding out of frustration?

Option 1: Maybe they ARE a healer, decided not to help TG, saw the flip, feel bad about it, and now they are trying to distance?

 

Option 2: Maybe they ARE a healer, but maybe they are of the X Shot variety and didn't feel like "wasting" a heal on a Miller claim?

 

Option 3: Obviously they are NOT a healer as they didn't prevent old TG's death and the gambit has already been exposed since there is no "danger" of them healing old TG and preventing the kill from going through. Gambit over - why keep up the charade?

 

More thoughts in a bit but these guys are taking too much heat right now.

 

Go with option 3, as even I have a hard time believing CS/Hally would derp enough not to heal GleMeri when literally every person in the game read us as town.

As for heat, they are self-generating at night which continues the >rand to be town even with the derpa-derp mislogic pointed out above.

 

I'm fairly confident in my Des Town read. I don't think I have disagreed with Slendy even once. If he is scum, my heart will be broken. So that leaves Tom and Arsis. Possible Tommy is the poisoner and Arsis is scum. I'd be okay letting scum take care of Tommy [since he is going to have to poison scum tonight] and letting NA's resolve Arsis.

 

 

You literally just said poisoner was likely scum based off the mechanic of EOD v. EON.  Now you're saying poisoner is likely Town?  Which is it, or are you just making up whatever you want to fit narrative?

[Tommyrod]

I really have no clue what Yates was trying to say.

 

TG did you really not get a PM? Why would you post then? You could be scum with Yates for example and have to walk it back.

[Yates]

You literally just said poisoner was likely scum based off the mechanic of EOD v. EON.  Now you're saying poisoner is likely Town?  Which is it, or are you just making up whatever you want to fit narrative?

A little from column A and a little from column B?

 

I still think poisoner is 3rd party. However, I acknowledge that if there is no Town ability to heal it is MORE likely that poison is scum kill flavor than I had previously been considering.

 

I'm definitely creating a narrative on Tommy. There's no doubt about that. Regardless of my reasons, it's my intention to illustrate that Tommy is not lock Town and that I am suspicious of anyone that claims otherwise. I am demonstrating examples of how Tommy's actions could absolutely be coming from a scum or 3rd party mindset and I'm waiting for anyone - other than Tommy - to dispute this.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

Yates did you even conclude anything?

Not really. Just that I'd be okay with you or Arsis either dying , being investigated, or being lynched based on wagon analysis and that Slendy is a tricky trickster if he's scum.

 

I could look at your theory a little more closely and weigh in on potential suspects off the wagon, I suppose, but I feel like that's a much larger list and have to figure out math based on setup spec.

I don't like this because I'm still feeling Arsis as town. So what would your plan of action be after Arsis and I die or are peeked as town? Who would you focus on then?

[Yates]

Go with option 3, as even I have a hard time believing CS/Hally would derp enough not to heal GleMeri when literally every person in the game read us as town.

Yeah. I'm actually operating under the assumption of option 3 but options 1 and 2 are worth being stated in thread for obvious reasons. The point of that post, though, is that all 3 are viable explanations for that play. And I didn't even really have to try very hard to think of them.

[Tommyrod]

Tommy, you're saying that we get turi today and krak tomorrow? I really think they both need to be lynched. I also have other question(s) that I want to ask after the lynch. Remind me later. I don't want to muddle things up now.

Reminder.

[Yates]

I don't like this because I'm still feeling Arsis as town. So what would your plan of action be after Arsis and I die or are peeked as town? Who would you focus on then?

I don't know how an Arsis peek/flip would affect my perspective on the game, tbh. I guess I'd pay a little more attention to your off wagon candidates.

 

Knowing your alignment would help me read certain people. Knowing how others early Town reading you ascertained your alignment would be MUCH more helpful to the game, imo.

 

I admit that I likely wont be playing with a ton of WIM for the next couple of days until I get my head on straight. Sorry I don't have a better game solving answer but that's where I'm at.

[Tommyrod]

What's wrong with your head Yates

 

Can I lynch you tomorrow?

[Yates]

What's wrong with your head Yates

 

Can I lynch you tomorrow?

Not game related.

 

Would be ill-advised.

[Tommyrod]

Who do you want me to focus on tomorrow?

[Yates]

Who do you want me to focus on tomorrow?

Sounds like you are expecting me to be vigged/NKed?

 

In that event, ask this question to Slendy. I feel like he's thinking along the same lines as me and probably has a better handle on the more recent developments. Plus, I trust him to act as my proxy in the event I can't comment on NA's.

 

I'd also press Darthe and Hally a bit to expound on their Yates Town reads a bit. I have actually asked Darthe about this twice. There is one reasonable explanation that comes to mind for his Town read on me but I don't want to feed it to him. As for Hally, she plays a lot by gut - as you know. That, of course, makes her motivation for just about anything hard to pin down. It would be nice if she could actually enunciate her rationale and remove any doubt about possible agendas.

[Yates]

Also, don't forget to reset your read on TG. I know. This is going to be tough. But there's no reason to think TG didn't take over a scum slot. Make him [re]earn a Town read.

[Arsis]

 

Tommy, you're saying that we get turi today and krak tomorrow? I really think they both need to be lynched. I also have other question(s) that I want to ask after the lynch. Remind me later. I don't want to muddle things up now.

Reminder.

They were all immediately answered by Hallia CS being silly. I really thought I caught something with them lying and it was just a silly gambit.

[Tyler Glembo]

I really have no clue what Yates was trying to say.

 

TG did you really not get a PM? Why would you post then? You could be scum with Yates for example and have to walk it back.

 

Haven't seen it yet.  As for why post, so what if TSB is scum and so is Yates?  If TSB rolled scum I'm not going to walk back calling out bad logic/double talk on anybody. 

 

Yeah. I'm actually operating under the assumption of option 3 but options 1 and 2 are worth being stated in thread for obvious reasons. The point of that post, though, is that all 3 are viable explanations for that play. And I didn't even really have to try very hard to think of them.

 

I'm Occam's razoring 3.  Otherwise I'd be more baffled by the GleMeri death.

[Tyler Glembo]

Haven't seen it yet.  As for why post, so what if TSB is scum and so is Yates?  If TSB rolled scum I'm not going to walk back calling out bad logic/double talk on anybody. 

 

 

EBWOP: It does make me a possible jerk for not playing to wincon in your scenario, but I guess I'll find out soon enough.

[Arsis]

Yates, I'm not really following you this game after day 1.I had you as town day 1 but I really haven't been impress with you play since. You seem to just not be making sense you're not logically consistent recently.

 

 

Darthe seems like he is a fox news reporter sticking to talking points. I remember 2-3 cases where the things he were saying fit his narrative but we're exactly true.

[Tommyrod]

Yates I'm not vigging you I thought you would be AFK more and really just wanted you to talk more.

 

Arsis what's on your mind now?

[Tommyrod]

Yates, I'm not really following you this game after day 1.I had you as town day 1 but I really haven't been impress with you play since. You seem to just not be making sense you're not logically consistent recently.

 

 

Darthe seems like he is a fox news reporter sticking to talking points. I remember 2-3 cases where the things he were saying fit his narrative but we're exactly true.

What's this mean? Examples?

[Arsis]

Why is Krak town?

Why do I agree with manbat and then forget him a page later?

Why is someone I had a strong town in slender not participating as much?

What happened to sp?

What's this "I didn't read my pm nonsense? "

why does Yates look so much worse after day?

Are you sure Darthe is town?

[Arsis]

 

Yates, I'm not really following you this game after day 1.I had you as town day 1 but I really haven't been impress with you play since. You seem to just not be making sense you're not logically consistent recently.

 

 

Darthe seems like he is a fox news reporter sticking to talking points. I remember 2-3 cases where the things he were saying fit his narrative but we're exactly true.

What's this mean? Examples?

I can't look for specifics as I'm on my phone. A few pages back that big "I am the danger thing" wasn't genuine and pushed CS for something that was exactly true. He said they pushed him because he wanted to get them a power role lynched. They never said that. He did the same about my meta before. Gave a good read on it and agreed I was in my town meta and said I was scum. He did the same with Des before. I don't remember what it is but I remember des calling him out on it.

[Tommyrod]

Why is Krak town?

Why do I agree with manbat and then forget him a page later?

Why is someone I had a strong town in slender not participating as much?

What happened to sp?

What's this "I didn't read my pm nonsense? "

why does Yates look so much worse after day?

Are you sure Darthe is town?

Yeah I get the feeling if Manbat is scum he's just "being correct" to stay afloat.

 

Slender has claimed he's busy between multiple games. I'm also in a game with him on VS. Ditto Monstr. Monstr is posting much more there than here.

 

No clue on SP.

 

I *was* sure Darthe is town but I'm willing to reconsider; his posts surrounding his hatred for salami have been kinda goofy.

 

Yates... is a whole 'nother issue.

[csarmi]

For the record: I wouldn't have healed GleMeri here regardless. Unless Hally were sure they were town (she wasn't).

[csarmi]

In fact I'd have poisoned them if I were town poisoner.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

Yates, I'm not really following you this game after day 1.I had you as town day 1 but I really haven't been impress with you play since. You seem to just not be making sense you're not logically consistent recently.

 

 

Darthe seems like he is a fox news reporter sticking to talking points. I remember 2-3 cases where the things he were saying fit his narrative but we're exactly true.

What's this mean? Examples?

I can't look for specifics as I'm on my phone. A few pages back that big "I am the danger thing" wasn't genuine and pushed CS for something that was exactly true. He said they pushed him because he wanted to get them a power role lynched. They never said that. He did the same about my meta before. Gave a good read on it and agreed I was in my town meta and said I was scum. He did the same with Des before. I don't remember what it is but I remember des calling him out on it.

You mean Darthe is taking opposite actions from his own conclusions?

[Tommyrod]

For the record: I wouldn't have healed GleMeri here regardless. Unless Hally were sure they were town (she wasn't).

So much for the wondergut twins. TG was obvitown from page ONE.