[Advanced] Woodstock 1969 Mafia - Town wins

[hazelkrs1]

Exactly. You tried preemptively making me look bad by trying to say I was setting up a thubderdome with you. Your push against me started off soft and has been complete Crap throughout. You're flinging out buzzwords left and right to try and make me look bad.

 

You're scum bro. Exposed in the first few hours of D1, tsk tsk

[Tommyrod]

You need to work on your scum game if this is the best you're bringing to the table right now. It took me all of 15 minutes to completely shut you down and get you to back yourself into a corner where all you can do is OMGUS vote me.

 

And if you are town, then you also need to learn that other townies CAN and WILL push you when they think they're right, especially if you randomly change up your playstyle.

 

So I conclude your approach has not been reasonable and has not been believable, so either way you have some learnin to do and you should think about what I've said. You're welcome for the lesson.

[Drunk Tank]

 

 

Hardclaim Billy Ray Cyrus

 

Lets do this.

So you're responsible for Miley Cyrus?

 

[V]Lenlo[/v]

 

Technically no? Im blaming my wife for that one.

 

Now what I heard tell, she claims YOU came in like a something I can't quite remember....gimme a sec

[Tommyrod]

Exactly. You tried preemptively making me look bad by trying to say I was setting up a thubderdome with you. Your push against me started off soft and has been complete Crap throughout. You're flinging out buzzwords left and right to try and make me look bad.

 

You're scum bro. Exposed in the first few hours of D1, tsk tsk

I assume people here will be astute enough to see this as the hypocrisy it is... you're taking my argument against you and turning it back around on me... yet the evidence supports me and not you for anyone that bothers to read. I guess you could bank on people not reading, but you don't sound very convincing besides. You sound scared.

[hazelkrs1]

I haven't changed my playstyle Tommy.

 

You didn't back me into a corner.

 

It wasn't an OMGUS vote.

 

By all means tho, continue misrepping. It's fun watching you dig your own grave this early

 

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[Tommyrod]

I'm gonna throw a nice healthy dash of FOS at people who are posting while this argument is going on but not commenting on it.

 

Len, Arsis, Drunk: how ya doin?

[hazelkrs1]

 

Exactly. You tried preemptively making me look bad by trying to say I was setting up a thubderdome with you. Your push against me started off soft and has been complete Crap throughout. You're flinging out buzzwords left and right to try and make me look bad.

 

You're scum bro. Exposed in the first few hours of D1, tsk tsk

I assume people here will be astute enough to see this as the hypocrisy it is... you're taking my argument against you and turning it back around on me... yet the evidence supports me and not you for anyone that bothers to read. I guess you could bank on people not reading, but you don't sound very convincing besides. You sound scared.

Blah blah blah. Have fun posturing. I'll have fun watching you get lynched.

[Tommyrod]

I haven't changed my playstyle Tommy.

 

You didn't back me into a corner.

 

It wasn't an OMGUS vote.

 

By all means tho, continue misrepping. It's fun watching you dig your own grave this early

 

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^ The above is an example of a fake post for the inquiring reader.

 

I assume you're not going to follow up on your Hallia "suspicions" now that she's voted for you, and that's not surprising to me at all.

[Lenlo]

I'm gonna throw a nice healthy dash of FOS at people who are posting while this argument is going on but not commenting on it.

 

Len, Arsis, Drunk: how ya doin?

Fine. Still abit annoyed. Goin to sleep soon. Why?

[Tommyrod]

Since Des has gone full turtleshell playground antics mode, I'll take the high ground and invite anyone here to ask me as to how my read on him developed or why I'm becoming more and more confident that Des is the best lynch for today with each post he makes. This is assuming you can't see the obvious for yourself, and I mean it is really obvious.

[Tommyrod]

 

I'm gonna throw a nice healthy dash of FOS at people who are posting while this argument is going on but not commenting on it.

 

Len, Arsis, Drunk: how ya doin?

Fine. Still abit annoyed. Goin to sleep soon. Why?

 

 

Do you see what I see here or not? Do you see Des completely shutting down? It's like... really bad.

[Lenlo]

Since Des has gone full turtleshell playground antics mode, I'll take the high ground and invite anyone here to ask me as to how my read on him developed or why I'm becoming more and more confident that Des is the best lynch for today with each post he makes. This is assuming you can't see the obvious for yourself, and I mean it is really obvious.

Please assume im tired and not paying good attention to anything and explain how your read developed on Des.

 

Thanks.

[hazelkrs1]

Tommy's scummy jimmies confirmed rustled

 

[Drunk Tank]

Welp.  Considering there are only what, four of us even posting right now?

 

He's replying, and in what I feel is a clear manner.

Things did get rather serious in here quickly. I'm not really complaining, not a big fan of the random vote stage anyway.

 

Regarding how clear the dialogue is between those involved, it remains to be seen. I won't assume anyone is anything at this point.

[Drunk Tank]

Okay work calls....

[csarmi]

Hally. What is your read on Tommy now? In particular, I'd like to see if anything stands out for you on a re-read. I think I found something but I might be giving it too much weight.

[Arsis]

I'm watching. Reading. Seeing. I think one of you are scum. If we lynch des and she flips town I'm going to push for your lynch tomorrow. It's like 80/20 des/you

 

 

 

 

But to be fair. I think I'm terrible day 1.

[Tommyrod]

 

Since Des has gone full turtleshell playground antics mode, I'll take the high ground and invite anyone here to ask me as to how my read on him developed or why I'm becoming more and more confident that Des is the best lynch for today with each post he makes. This is assuming you can't see the obvious for yourself, and I mean it is really obvious.

Please assume im tired and not paying good attention to anything and explain how your read developed on Des.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Sure. Check it out. Des came into the thread being aloof and whimsical in a way I don't associate with him in any role; that's fine, whatever. I had a little mini mindmeld moment with Salami when he mentioned it too. Des threw down a few oddball reads like Tommy and Arsis look good, but he did in a way that emulates Cory's typical early game style which is what caught my eye. He also said he's WTL Krak or Darthe, someone he knows I'm voting for out of spite and might actually push out of spite; Ditto for Arsis. He voted for you in that post and I have no idea why he's WTL Krak, but whatever. I can let that go... kinda.

 

He weakly FOS's Hallia and then mentions how Krak is confirmed scum and his explanation for voting you is some gibberish I don't understand that is for out-of-game reasons, which is... whatever, but doesn't sound like him as a townie, it sounds like something he'd do as scum hiding behind lame reasoning to vote for people.

 

So that's all pretty weird already. He's bouncing around really fervently but he doesn't sound like him, he sounds like Cory or even me when I'm scum in early game trying to get town points for verbal diarrhea.

 

But then the really weird happens. Salami calls him out for being weird and immediately after Des tries to "look serious" by asking him for reads; then Hallia softly defends him with the 'turning a new leaf' comment, then Des tries to shrug suspicion off him by telling people to get out of his way -- not believable. His immediate turn to question Hallia is another example of him trying to "look serious" when he's under suspicion, except it looked a little goofy and made me think Des/Hallia scum/scum makes sense. Hallia doesn't try to read Des in response to his question but instead says Des is null, I am null, and Salami is town for reasons I don't understand other than "well, he's posting."

 

Whatever. Looks like weird interaction between the two of them. But then it escalates even more:

 

Des says "Wow you're bad if you're reading me as scum right now. Or just scum." which isn't something a reasonable person says, and even for stubborn town Des that's bad... but when Des takes a hard right turn and calls ME scum but then votes for HALLIA, that's when I thought "aha, he actually is scum."

 

He's not arguing like a townie would. He tried to guilt me into being suspicious of someone else by saying I'm 'obfuscating' and then he got nervous and delected onto Hallia and then has called me lock scum ever since. It's ridiculous. And it's fake.

 

This isn't even counting that I also think Hallia is scummy but he doesn't care about that and isn't following up on his "suspicions" of her in any way.

 

I don't even think I should have to point this out to you guys. This is basic. Can you read his posts and tell me "yeah, looks town" and not "yeah, looks like caught scum"?

 

He's just straight trolling now and not providing any reasoning at all. It's pathetic. He's in anti-spew mode and is likely just going to take pot shots at me for the rest of the day until one of us is lynched because he knows I'll keep at it and probably be successful so if he says too much he may out one of his bros. (That's what anti-spew means in case you didn't know the term.)

[Arsis]

Tommy does seem like he is forcing his meta a bit. But, I'm always very paranoid at the start of things.

[hazelkrs1]

Tommy in a nutshell here's how I know you're scum:

 

During your entire push on me, you haven't ever actually been interested in trying to discern my alignment. You started off with limp duck soft pushing posts then after a while started flinging whatever crap you could think of to try and make me look bad.

 

Townies will push against people they find scummy, but the MANNER in which you have pushed me is scummy as all get out. And since you first started looking bad, you haven't done a single thing to make me think you might actually be town here. You're pleading to others to find me scummy instead of discerning their alignments.

 

You can act like you're taking the high road, but the fact that I won't let you posture your way out of being lynched doesn't make me an immature schoolkid, it makes me uninterested in letting you scrape your way out of this with terribad reasoning and posts.

[Tommyrod]

Tommy does seem like he is forcing his meta a bit. But, I'm always very paranoid at the start of things.

 

Oh jeez. Where are you getting this from?

[hazelkrs1]

I'm watching. Reading. Seeing. I think one of you are scum. If we lynch des and she flips town I'm going to push for your lynch tomorrow. It's like 80/20 des/you

 

 

 

 

But to be fair. I think I'm terrible day 1.

If Tommy actually is town this game this post is just about a scumclaim from Arsis. Do not forget this everyone.

[Pralaya]

Mod Note: Key will be hydra with Yates

 

(VC in a bit)

[Tommyrod]

Tommy in a nutshell here's how I know you're scum:

 

During your entire push on me, you haven't ever actually been interested in trying to discern my alignment. You started off with limp duck soft pushing posts then after a while started flinging whatever crap you could think of to try and make me look bad.

 

Townies will push against people they find scummy, but the MANNER in which you have pushed me is scummy as all get out. And since you first started looking bad, you haven't done a single thing to make me think you might actually be town here. You're pleading to others to find me scummy instead of discerning their alignments.

 

You can act like you're taking the high road, but the fact that I won't let you posture your way out of being lynched doesn't make me an immature schoolkid, it makes me uninterested in letting you scrape your way out of this with terribad reasoning and posts.

 

It's actually the opposite. You never gave me a chance. You called me dumb or scum when I reacted appropriately to you trying to get me off your back with "you should be looking for real scum" nonsense comments and then calling me lock scum when I didn't back down. Do you REALLY think town/town violence never occurs? So if ANYONE pushes you they are LOCK SCUM, right? Absurd.

 

What is terribad about my reasoning? Nothing. Go ahead and pick it apart if you can.

[Arsis]

 

 

Tommy does seem like he is forcing his meta a bit. But, I'm always very paranoid at the start of things.

Oh jeez. Where are you getting this from?

Am I right? Or just paranoid?