[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

[Tommyrod]

I didn't like that X laid low all day phase and then showed up after the lynch giving reads on random people and completely ignoring anything that happened during the day.

TG appeared immediately after the lynch scene as well. And yes, X has been in permanent catchup mode. By wagon census analysis I think he has to be scum anyway.

[Tommyrod]

 

Didn't read that scene.  Also kinda disappointed that Des didn't mention me in his first big post, I would expect an active scum read of me by 17 pages in.

 

Fwiw I noticed you laid down pretty easily for Tommy, does that count for anything?

 

Anything?

 

Bueller?

 

Y'know, one sec you're all "I DUNNO, mister Tommy, my mommy told me not to talk to strangers" next sec you're like "LOL LOOKIT ME GO ALONG WITH THE LAWYERSPEAK FOR TOMMY EVERYONE LAWLZ AMIRITE?!?!?!"

 

 

 

I am flattered Darthe tho, that you felt sleighted that I didn't mention you sooner. You know how I know you're gay?

 

Cause I would've done the same with you

 

 

 

This spews Darthe as not scum/scum with Des if for some reason you didn't believe my cop hammer.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

And despo ur defense if X is noted

 

Red's sudden hyperactive-aggro approach today is bothering me after how she was behaving last night irt Despot's mention of her meta.

 

Comes across like she's conscious of this fact, and now aware that her meta was off, is attempting to adjust it by jumping X for something not so scummy.

 

#MINDMELD

 

AJ = LAWK CLAIRE

 

 

I don't like how Des clears AJ early. I don't like their chat about Tsuki. And I don't like AJ chainsaw defending X here.

[Arsis]

 

 

I didn't like that X laid low all day phase and then showed up after the lynch giving reads on random people and completely ignoring anything that happened during the day.

TG appeared immediately after the lynch scene as well. And yes, X has been in permanent catchup mode. By wagon census analysis I think he has to be scum anyway.

Yeah, it's not completely incriminating. It's just very suspicious. X and tg wouldn't surprise me

[Tommyrod]

 

Nolder confirmed third party German from big lebowski.

 

Just skimmed the last three pages and yeah, we should cut off his johnson, if that's what you're insinuating

 

If I had 2 shots right now I'd shoot Red and Nolder so fast and everyone would love me forever. Red is scum and Nolder is either scum or making the dumbest arguments in the world as a townie who is SUPPOSED to want to scumhunt as soon as they know their role. Bleurgh. You don't need a voting phase to start gameplay. Any notion arguing against that is sophomoric.

 

 

More good news for Red and Nolder.

 

 

 

Scum!Hallia tends to get more "aggressive" early on. Town!hallia coasts on one-liners, lack of info, and jabs.

But, like I said, a meta-read. I admit my reads are flimsy, atm. So how do you think commenting on that will

help you determine if I am scum or not??

 

"for instance" indicates there are other things you find scummy, besides my "buddying" and my flimsy reads? Care to share?

 

I completely disagree with that meta assessment. You have it quite wrong in fact- Scum!Hallia coasts by moar than most, since it's easier for her to do so. Town!Hallia will usually still fluff a lot and go with the crowd, but NewAndImprovedTown!Hallia is much more aggressive than any of her other versions.

 

Mostly null but thought I'd quote it anyway.

[Songstress]

@Tommy - don't forget that when X claimed gunsmith he said he'd cleared Despo as not having a gun. They're likely tied together at this point.

[Tommyrod]

Gonna spoiler this wot and do lightning fast commentary, time is of the essence! (bout to start audit)

 

 

 

I like Mynd´s scenes but since I don´t know most characters names they doesn´t give me any clues. Not sure if they are meant to or not. 

 

I´m most interested in  Red, Nolder, Tommy or Arsis.

 

Red - the way she went after X for lying about the pr and then continue to go after him even when that didn´t turn out to be true. 

 

Nolder - I don´t know why he is having this attitude that everyone here sucks so it´s no idea to play until we have some deaths. Makes no sense as game play as either town or mafia, unless he is mafia and try to cover for someone that has been suspected. Eh, I don´t know about him but I´m keeping my eyes on him. 

 

Tommy - well, as you have said, he has claimed a character that should be considered evil. 

 

Arsis - he jumped on Nolder when he was in the center of everyones attention, accused him for lying (I´m not sure what lie he is talking about) but didn´t vote him. 

 

 

[v] Tommy [/v]

 

Didn't like this post as it was mainly parroting things others were saying about her main suspects. The only one she gave semi-original thoughts on was Arsis, and that was a somewhat conflicted read anyways (and could be distancing on her part). Also looks like simplistic reasoning on Tina's part, like she's just going through the motions

 

And back to my old avi - puh!

 

So can you confirm that your avi was because of a mod-given PR please? For longevity's sake

 

 

Key, there's no reason to like Vos's point. Lynchproof is not a scum role. That's a game breaker.

 

I liked Vos's point as well, actually, and lynchproof scum has made an appearance on at least 3 games I can recall in the past year or so. Not ridiculously rare, or even impossible like you imply.

 

Second of all if I'm scum I don't "deflect attention from teammates" on day friggin ONE. I push townies. BS reasoning is BS.

 

[v]Vos[/v]

 

Weak post is weak. "I don't do ______ as scum" from Tommy, bleurgh.

 

 

Tommy, the reason you're voting Vos is because??

Because he's full of crap and appears afraid to take a hard stance on it with his popcorn end statement. It's the classic scum hem-haw, like he could jump off if needed because he's not really serious about voting me.

 

 

This reaction to Vos feels fake to me, you didn't react to the vote instantly, but first trumped up that the votes on you were significant somehow (even tho they shouldn't have been- you claimed a villainous character and a following scene seemed to have weirdly similar details to what you had described. Votes on you at that time shouldn't have really stood out at all), and THEN started acting like Vos's vote stunk to high heaven. Also, seems you're putting words into his mouth by saying he could jump off if needed, when he himself hadn't said anything which indicated he planned on backing off anytime soon.

 

Personally, I think any gameplay content is relevant, but votes are more relevant.  They show you where people are willing to shove their chips.  That being said, I don't think philosophizing on how to play mafia is the best way to start a game.  It tends to result in people scumreading people they disagree with for no other reason than that they disagree.  Slight FoS on both you and Nolder for this.

 

I like how you come in and give your two cents on the issue, then immediately fos others for having the same discussion.

 

Oh wait, no I don't. I don't like that at all

 

 

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Heroes have been eliminated

 

Nothing in my role about symps or survivors or whatever. Not gonna worry about it.

 

But this means some characters alignments may not be 100% obvious.

 

Scum also definitely have fake claims given the ability to post role PMs.

 

Possibly some of the traditional avengers aren't in the game but are fake claims since I'm considered a hero in this game.

 

Incredibly speculative reasoning all based on the fact we should all apparently accept that Tommy is town.

 

Ewwwwwwwwww.

 

I dont have a problem with Tommy just acting like he's town and that everyone should see that, that's par for the course. What I have a problem with is Tommy trying to slyly make himself look townie with the speculation about fake claims and whatnot based on his alignment, which no townie (except for his twin apparently ) should have any knowledge of

 

 

Red do you have any objection to me sharing the reads list you PMed me during N0?

 

She called me her top townie. Awwww.

Oh really? Because I just so happened to get a similar PM from her, telling me I was her top town read as well? This should be good. I was tempted to reveal it because it felt like she overplayed her towniness in it to me,

 

 

Hrmmmmmm.... Red PM'ed me as well. And said I was "townvibing" and whatnot.

 

Tress already pointed out how strange it is for Red to be giving out town reads this early (and I touched on this as well earlier, and how this fits her scum meta), but what is even MOAR peculiar is the people she contacted- Lenlo, Tommy, myself, and .... Xthrax I think? Anyways point is 2 of those people Red would normally be a lot moar combative towards, I know she relishes any opportunity to try and "catch" me as scum when she is town, and after seeing her interact with Tommy for a bit I get the same feeling. And yet she instead reaches out thru PM to those two people.... doesn't look right to me. Plus she pm's Lenlo and says he was one of her top town reads.... and I see absolutely nothing in the thread that could have given her that indication.

 

 

 

 

That's how I remembered it as well.

 

 

From the darkest depths of the interwebs comes Xthrax!

 

(quote tags got messed up a bit)

 

Didn't see Xthrax get announced like that, and meh other points have been brought up that kind of refute my whole reasoning on that thing, so meh dropping it.

 

 

I'm treating Tsuki as town because

 

a) he's been around all morning talking to me and pushing the fact that my character should be scum as if he found something he really believed in

 

b) I remember him as a scummy townie in past games and he sometimes has good tone

 

c) he's catching a lot of heat early, with people like Tress popping in to take jabs at him. That has me on alert.

 

a) legit

 

b) weak meta is weak

 

c) that is way too simple.  If anything you should be wary of early distancing and you should be more sus of Tress than town on Tsuki.

 

 

???

 

I think that was the implication with what Tommy was saying- that he suspected Tress for the pileon, but that the multiple people piling on made him feel Tsuki was >rand to be town.

 

More importantly, this post fails the tone test since it seems like TG is more perturbed about the way Tommy is trying to scumhunt or make connections than he is interested in fleshing out Tommy's alignment. Like he's mad that Tommy isn't suspecting the right people or something.

 

The fact that Red sent anyone a PM during Dawn saying that she HAD town reads should be more alarming than her sending two of them.

 

*nods*

 

OOC: i'm changing my style from finding everyone scum to actually trying to find town and scum regardless of alignment.  you'll see that after a few games, but for now i get why you think that given my meta and Despos game.

 

town points to Tress

 

 

Hidden in one of Red's wots I found this- Red saying she's pinging because she's changing her style. Classic scumtell is classic.

 

Plus, another mark against Red for trying to buddy Tress.

 

After catchup, TG comes out looking scummy, darthe doesn't look anything like usual darthe - town or scum, there's something fishy about NB/Tina statements, Tsuki looks like frustrated townie to me, Red looks like townie Red, X feels town to me, Len seems to be sitting in the background more than usual, which pings me. Tommy seems like town atm.

 

Quoted this post instead of the big wot from Key- Key in the future can you put spaces in between the quote and your thoughts please? I was skimming as it is, but your wot was particularly hard to follow because of this

 

 

Tired of being hated.  Didn't happen before Cory/You showed up.  Blow me.

 

 

Fwiw, I never hated you and still don't, but you definitely have frustrated me a lot in the past, and I know you're intelligent which makes some things you say and do even more frustrating.

 

 

I had to double-check your name to make sure you were the real Lenlo after I read this.  You realize this is the issue I have with you almost every game, right?  Did you put on your shiny pro-town hat for this game?

Im trying abit harder this game, refocused like the ME one. Also wanted to make Mynds game good so decided to step it up. Can I get a hat though? With little stars and sparkles on it?

 

 

Wombat, I see you share my suspicions of TG. But do you think he could sustain that passionate real-time argument with me if he was scum? I'm asking earnestly, I've only seen one scum game of him (Basel's Star Wars) and it was piss poor but he said not to judge him off that, so can you offer me some perspective?

I know im not Wombat, but ill answer anyways. I dont think he could no. Feel he gets alot more into it as town.

 

Besides if hes scum or a vig we will know by daylight, cause ill be dead. :P ((Note thats like a 3 game running joke.))

 

 

Ewwwwww @ this post. Lenlo gives the 'ol "I'm actually going to try this game" schpiel, which is meh to me since I've heard it before, then answers a question directed at someone else in a sideline snipe sort of fashion.

 

Also, my two cents is that TG could def pass that off as scum. I've seen him look pretty convincing as scum in the past, showing townish type aggressiveness and whatnot.

 

 

 

Use this, next time, Tommy.

 

Scum or not, you just became the coolest person in this thread.  In fact, I'ma go watch boondocks and forget about playing the rest of the night.

 

 

TG fails the tone test here for somewhat unnecessarily adding in the "Scum or not" line, like he's overly concerned with keeping up appearances

 

 

Abit annoyed this has taken so much attention now.

I don't find it annoying as much as it establishes a player as an opinion leader or at the least prominent distraction. He can then drop back in a game this large and someone else can take over.

 

Scumhunting??

 

 

Quoted this post before cause it seemed like Drunk Tank was sniping a bit, only flying by to offer random commentary here or there, but he does seem to be participating more lately.

 

So I'm not all the way caught up, but it seems like you're hyper focusing on Darthe, Tommeh.

 

Darthe, I personally don't hate you!  :( I'm sorry if you feel that way.  

 

Right now Darthe reads to me like a townie getting dumped on.

 

This is DEF a snipe post tho. Hallia hasn't offered much yet this game, so decides to come in pretty much solely to defend someone that isn't really getting a ton of heat, at least compared to Tommy or Tuski or others in the game? Smells of buddying to me

 

I've mainly been focusing on you this game, I'll admit. But here are some things I've noticed from a few other players:

 

Darthe has been playing differently, and is strangely quiet. I am not sure how he plays as scum, but this is very different from how I've seen him play town.

 

I am pretty confident Red is town. Her play seems different from when I've played with her as scum. None of her reads have seemed to have scummy reasoning, at least from what I've looked at (although some posts I have skimmed over a bit)

 

This one I don't really have any reasoning for, but gut feeling says Tsuki is town. His gameplay is exactly the same as every game I've been in with him as town. I don't have a clue on how he plays as scum though.

 

FOS @ Dawn for two things in this post- parroting what others say about peeps (as in Darthe's case) and then repeating a very similar phrase she used for Darthe to use with Tsuki- I don't know how he plays as scum. Fails tone test in a pretty major way, like Dawn is trying to hedge her bets with her reads, and ditch responsibility for giving actual game thoughts on people, and instead falling back on repeating stuff others are saying or saying she doesn't know how someone plays or w/e (when as a newbie, she shouldn't even be that concerned with meta)

 

 

X might be scum but probably not with Des. Check out the red and bold part inside of his WOT.

 

In this WOT, Des attacks: Tina, Tommy, Dawn, Red, TG. Lenlo.

 

And then kinda FOS'd Wombat but not really.

 

I think Des/Wombat team, and then possibly a separate TG/X team. I thought the TG/X "fight" today after the lynch looked fake.

[Tommyrod]

@Tommy - don't forget that when X claimed gunsmith he said he'd cleared Despo as not having a gun. They're likely tied together at this point.

Nice crosspost, haha. Des couldn't make up his mind on X. He called him town for no reason and scum for no reason and then town and then stopped talking about him. I guess that looks bad for X? I'm having trouble following the logic.

[Tommyrod]

Des said in that WOT: "Quoted this post before cause it seemed like Drunk Tank was sniping a bit, only flying by to offer random commentary here or there, but he does seem to be participating more lately."

Looks bad for Drunk. He wasn't participating, lol. He still isn't.

[Tommyrod]

Something I forgot to point out about TG before I ran audit earlier- when he was asking Tommy why he felt so town on Tsuki, it read more like TG trying to fish for Tommy's twin than trying to see if it was a legit read or not

 

Anyhoo, gonna catch up in other game now. Can someone refresh me on when deadline is? Skimmed hardcore to catch up

 

Doubt Des makes this addendum if he's scum with TG.

 

I think Des and TG being scum but on different teams makes sense. (Maybe TG isn't scum at all, but I want him to be!)

[Tommyrod]

 

 

1 - (about the "freudian slip"). You caught me

Amazed nobody pointed this out.  It's not a normal way to speak and is a pretty obvious sign of a guilty conscious.  Also that last scene was about me.

 

[v] vos [/v]

 

 

People stopped talking about this misrep and they shouldn't have. Darthe never explained or responded to how scummy of a move that was, and instead pulled his patented "Oh I don't care about the game blahblah everyone's dumb" and then claimed his role in a somewhat suspicious manner (as in, made it seem like he was just a normal BG, nothing special, no character claim even tho that wouldn't have sold me, it still looked weird without it)

 

Ftr, I was considering moving my vote to Red (since TG isn't taking off atm), until I saw another post of hers while catching up as well as the fact that Darthe approves of the train on her.

 

Des can we get a quote as proof to show you were pmed by Red?

 

If yall want to I can, but Red already admitted to it and it wasn't really much. I think she messaged me and then I msged her back twice but she didn't read it before Day started so couldn't respond. The PM itself wasn't really incriminating, fwiw, altho the fact that she reached out to many she would normally be adversarial with did seem weird

 

(Key wot chopped out, click arrow in upper right hand corner to see the original)

 

I like Key's recent wots btw (def had a few mindmelds), and they're much easier to read thank you Key

 

I mean

 

 

 

Key looks shady today.  I agree with BH and Len etc that Red looks bad for trying to play off of people in PM's.  Of course, Red has looked bad this entire game but nobody is really listening to that atm.

 

Also, <3 hally, just saw your post from earlier.

 

I disagree about Key but more importantly- I feel like those who have spoken out against Red (myself, Xthrax) have been pretty vocal about it, and def a few others seemed open to her being scum considering the PM thing.

 

You saying nobody is listening to that and later saying you couldn't get traction for a lynch on her reads completely disingenuous to me

 

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So, no one else ever asked X what these were about?

 

X, were these posts significant at all, or just you typing all the keys in order and then reverse to mess around? That kind of thing doesn't really seem like you...

 

Would be willing to get behind a Dice or TG lynch for today if Tsuki isn't going to happen.

 

Still don't think Tsuki's thought process is lining up. Already touched on what I perceived as a TMI slip (which apparently was a PR, so I'd be willing to drop that), but I still dislike his recap of Hallia's meta which points to her being town and his handling of Tom's claim and the subsequent conclusion it brought him to. Not to mention Hallia seems heavily coasting right now (which is par) but it makes his easy town read more suspect.

 

My thoughts echo Nolder's irt Dice's reasons for continuing to push Tom.

 

With TG I admit it would be more so a sponge read from others who I am leaning town on. I can agree on the point that his catch up post and following reads look like one of those scummy 'here's some content' sort of posts and there was a large lull in his gameplay from how he started out heavy with the spam and then died down (which could just be IRL stuff). I did catch early on how he said that normally he'd be willing to kickstart the game but instead was opting to continue spamming because it was Dawn 0, which pinged me then.

 

Still got a town read on AJ but emphasized looked kinda weird to me, bad tone ("I'd be willing to drop that")

 

AJ, care to espouse on that?

 

 

Something I forgot to point out about TG before I ran audit earlier- when he was asking Tommy why he felt so town on Tsuki, it read more like TG trying to fish for Tommy's twin than trying to see if it was a legit read or not

 

Anyhoo, gonna catch up in other game now. Can someone refresh me on when deadline is? Skimmed hardcore to catch up

 

Despo, bad logic is a bad thing.  Me pushing Tommy is not because I'm trying to stifle scumhunting or pull out partners, but because I'm trying to look for bad logic and missteps which are a primo way to catch players like Tommy out as scum (besides his lolcatting that is).  What is interesting on you so far is that you made a decision on me and now you're using confirmation bias with all further quotes.  Narrative.

 

Des I'm gonna join you on TG wagon. I think Wombat should as well. There's something off about his tone and aggression for sure. He's making all kinds of unnecessary statements like the "regardless of if you're town or scum" comment you pointed out. I'm gonna roll with that, see where the wagon goes, see who dies of dysentery.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]TG[/v]

 

The sheep is strong with this one.  Comments like "there's something off" are a great way of saying you have no idea at all and are just hoping to build the train enough that it'll take off eventually.

 

 

Don't like this response. Seems like AtE in the first part (trying to make me think my read on him is confbias), and his sheep comment about Tommy was pretty redundant considering Tommy's post started with "Des I'm gonna join you".

 

(chopped out Key's wot that had a few responses to my posts in it, again click on arrow for full post)

 

I understand that some of the things I point out will be a stretch, but I don't like holding back on that kind of stuff- I might point out something that makes someone else think of something they saw in a different light or something which could lead them to point out something better or something.

 

So btw I'm def feeling pretty good about you while catching up, but before I LOCK CLEAR you I want a non-wot post summarizing your top three scum and town reads, and why. Thanks in advance

 

(chopped out Red's wot responding to points from X)

 

This was the first post I saw from Red that made me think she could be town after all this game. The vigor with which she breaks apart every single little point to respond in detail looks more like tunnel-obsessed town Red than obfuscating scum. I completely disagree with her case on X, he's one of my strongest town reads in fact, but this post along with Darthe advocating her lynch has me reviewing my read on her. Stay tuned.

 

I'm losing track of this game.

 

TG, do you promise me you aren't scum? I'll vote elsewhere if you can shake this doubt off me.

 

Ewwwwww.

 

 

I'm losing track of this game.

 

TG, do you promise me you aren't scum? I'll vote elsewhere if you can shake this doubt off me.

 

Yes I'm town, but Ic ant convince you of my role or alignment, you're going to have to figure out I'm town by looking at my posts.

 

 

This screams staged to me. Def feeling like it's possible Tommy and TG are wolf/wolf together.

 

 

This post is probably important. See Des kind of role fishing X? Sucking up to Key? Attacking Darthe? Saying TG and I are scum/scum? Kind of suspecting AJ but not really?

 

Yeah, I think Des/AJ were aligned to start the game.

[Tommyrod]

So my guess is that Des/AJ/Wombat was the original Crimson Cowl team. Possibly add Krak to that.

[Tommyrod]

Forgot about the result on Dice. He's scum with Des, yeah. So Des/Dice/Wombat/AJ original team? Check this out:

 

 

 

as for the rest  im not seeing the Vos stuff. I think he may be right about getting set up.

 

I actually think Darthe is town fwiw

 

 

i need to go over stuff re tg and x cause i feel like im missing something in the convos there

 

i admit that i have been focussed on tommy but i am rading and watching. But he is what stands out most to me atm so thats what im going for.

 

Bolded and underlined seemed like complete contradictions to me- if Vos is getting set up, Darthe would pretty much DEF be the one setting him up considering the wildly scummy misrep earlier

 

Dice looks somewhat townish to me based on his perseverance and exuberance regarding Tommy btw, but then after stepping up his town game recently he could have also stepped up his scum game to fake that sort of thing.

 

This is the same wishy-washy way he treats Wombat and AJ.

[Tommyrod]

Oh, and Drunk. Drunk moreso than AJ.

 

Des/Dice/Wombat/Drunk/AJ team perhaps?!

[Tommyrod]

I'm extrapolating a bit but Des is definitely being wishy-washy with his scumbros. "Yeah, that looks bad, but then again, he's kind of redeeming himself."

[Arsis]

I think des is town.

[Tommyrod]

 

Okay - I'll give you the short and dirty.

 

Darthe is a BG (Captain Marvel) and quoted his PM for proof.

 

Tommy has revealed himself as QuickSilver from the Wonder Twins and that if he hammers on a lynch that person won't die and instead he'll receive their role PM.

 

Arsis is apparently Thor.

 

Tsuki has some weird ass ability where if he votes someone and they immediately vote him back in their next post he finds out their alignment. None of these make sense as scum roles, so essentially these 4 are all lock town.

 

Okay I got you on most of that, but why are all 4 lock town? Thor could be mod given safe claim, BG could be mafia I suppose (might be confbias on my part- Darthe looked pretty sketch to me this game from what I recall)...

 

I agree that Tommy's role is too easily vettable and obv protown, and Tsuki's as well, tho that would be easier to fake (don't really think he would have thought up a role like that as scum that being said)

 

So those two I'm willing to accept as lock town, but why the other two?

 

Might finally spew Tsuki as not-scum-with-Des and I'll probably just stick with that read for a while

[Tommyrod]

I think des is town.

And Yates is lying? Or has false info?

[Arsis]

 

I think des is town.

And Yates is lying? Or has false info?

Well, let's have des claim first before I say anything.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

I think des is town.

And Yates is lying? Or has false info?

 

Well, let's have des claim first before I say anything.

 

He already claimed, lol. Hank Pym.

[Tommyrod]

And screw it- I'm too lazy and WIM is too low to actually take time to show my thought process to yall so meh

 

 

 

You are Dr. Pym, Scientific Adventurer!

 

 

Alias: Dr. Henry "Hank" Pym

 

Alignment: Hero

 

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Heroes have been eliminated

 

Power Role: Bioengineering – At night, choose target dead player and you will create a one-shot invention item based on that target’s role. You may give this one-shot item to any player. Careful! This invention has a 33% chance of killing the user.

 

Special Ability: (redacted)

 

You may learn more about your character here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Pym

 

Good luck and have fun!

Not showing the other ability ever because it could completely neutralize it, and I might as well be dead anyways if it's revealed.

 

I WILL say this tho- it is a lynch leading ability, and it could be instrumental in helping town actually win.

 

I hold the key to defeating Ultron.

 

Makes sense if you know canon since Hank created Ultron, and is also the only one who can destroy it later. And from conversation I've had with Mynd, apparently it's one of the few ways Ultron can actually be killed this game.

 

THIS is why I have such a hard time believing Tommy saying he is unrecruitable- if my ability is possibly VERY crucial to town's chances of success in this game, but I'M not unrecruitable, I just don't see why Mynd would ever make Tommy's role unrecruitable. I realize it's gaming the mod, but w/e I just don't see it.

 

Also, Arsis is most cleared player in the game for me at this point, I decided to just post my pm once he mentioned how he can stop Galactus. I think he's to Galactus what I am to Ultron.

Here's his claim, Arsis.

[Tommyrod]

If Des ends up not being scum I will feel dumb for reading all his posts

[Arsis]

If Des ends up not being scum I will feel dumb for reading all his posts

I'm not saying anything. But I semi-believe his claim for now. He needs to do a full claim.

[Yates]

My results are legit, Arsis. Not sure what you are on about. Maybe the random vig shot will settle this but I have zero reason to doubt my info.

[Arsis]

My results are legit, Arsis. Not sure what you are on about. Maybe the random vig shot will settle this but I have zero reason to doubt my info.

I'm not saying anything. Des can clear this up by coming in and saying "I know what Arsis is on about" I'm not giving hints.