[Advanced] Twilight Mafia Game over - Mafia win

[Darthe]

It's me trying to be polite and hedge this for a new player.

 

Dawn is so clueless that if this was a skill required for motor function her and her brother together couldn't find their way out of a room.

 

 

Better?

[Leelou]

/bored mod is bored. 

 

*so I don't lose this* 

 

Vote Count

 

Des (1) - Darthe

Darthe (1) - Dawn

 

not voting - everyone else

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

 

Deadline Saturday Noon EST (willing to move to Friday or Monday due to the holiday) 

[Tommyrod]

It's me trying to be polite and hedge this for a new player.

 

Dawn is so clueless that if this was a skill required for motor function her and her brother together couldn't find their way out of a room.

 

 

Better?

 

Oh I thought you were talking about me

 

Hahaha

[Darthe]

Nope.  Really was trying to speak over her head but enough that you could figure it out.  Sorry.  

[Leelou]

Boys...

[Darthe]

Hi!

 

No offense to you Dawn, you're just new as a lamb and not quite taken to trying to learn yet.  

[Tommyrod]

Nope.  Really was trying to speak over her head but enough that you could figure it out.  Sorry.  

You're such a bad person. Sorry, I've eaten nothing but these weird 90 calorie brownie things today.

 

Well, that means I'm not going to try to read her in an analytical manner, I'll default to "does it sound like she has conviction behind her statements, regardless of how abstract?" and right now I would say yes.

[Lenlo]

Boys...

You know you love us.

[Leelou]

 

Boys...

You know you love us.

 

 

Men make my life difficult. And they are trouble. *nods* 

[Darthe]

Yeah she is almost certainly town but we can't count on her vote yet =/  

 

Lol'd at the "You're such a bad person" bit.

[Tommyrod]

It's going to be hard to decide which of you and Des is scum so I'll probably coinflip 

[dawnflower8]

 

It's me trying to be polite and hedge this for a new player.

 

Dawn is so clueless that if this was a skill required for motor function her and her brother together couldn't find their way out of a room.

 

 

Better?

 

Oh I thought you were talking about me

 

Hahaha

 

I thought he was too, and I was like, shouldn't he be insulting me?

 

It's me trying to be polite and hedge this for a new player.

 

Dawn is so clueless that if this was a skill required for motor function her and her brother together couldn't find their way out of a room.

 

 

Better?

I was going to ask "What happened to everyone saying I was so good for a newbie in my first game" but then I realized. 1. You weren't in my first game, 2. I was a mafia, and 3. That may come off as bragging.

 

And no, I'm not going to spam the page calling you a meanie and thinking you are scum for criticizing me like Ice did to Cloud in the Godzilla game. (Although, I seriously do still think you are scum)

 

I admit I have NO CLUE how to scumhunt. 

[Darthe]

Every time you say that I hate you a bit more.  Read D1 and get back to us.

[Tommyrod]

Dawn if you can't scumhunt can you townhunt? Who do you think is trustworthy?

[Darthe]

 

And no, I'm not going to spam the page calling you a meanie and thinking you are scum for criticizing me like Ice did to Cloud in the Godzilla game. (Although, I seriously do still think you are scum)

 

I admit I have NO CLUE how to scumhunt. 

 

 

Sorry, I almost modkilled him for that.  Explain WHY you think I am scum so that I can refute it.  Otherwise your nothing but a liability to me and the rest of the town.  Also, explain how you chose me over Des,  I pretty well know the answer to this (he uses emotive arguments, essentially argues passionately and plays to the lowest common denominator where I won't play that way) but I want to see what you see.

 

As for the last part, that can be learned in time.  You just have to want to learn.  

[Tommyrod]

Is Des the Antony to your Brutus, Darthe?

[Darthe]

He certainly has the rhetoric and pathos but I retain the logos and ethos

[dawnflower8]

Dawn if you can't scumhunt can you townhunt? Who do you think is trustworthy?

 

I probably can't, but I don't really try. I can't really trust anyone, although some people seem more scummy than others. 

 

 

 

And no, I'm not going to spam the page calling you a meanie and thinking you are scum for criticizing me like Ice did to Cloud in the Godzilla game. (Although, I seriously do still think you are scum)

 

I admit I have NO CLUE how to scumhunt. 

 

 

Sorry, I almost modkilled him for that.  Explain WHY you think I am scum so that I can refute it.  Otherwise your nothing but a liability to me and the rest of the town.  Also, explain how you chose me over Des,  I pretty well know the answer to this (he uses emotive arguments, essentially argues passionately and plays to the lowest common denominator where I won't play that way) but I want to see what you see.

 

As for the last part, that can be learned in time.  You just have to want to learn.  

 

You probably should have, that was very ridiculous. I already explained why I think you are scum. You said "I voted you because you are mafia" or something very similar. That does not sound like something an experienced player would say. That sounds like something Ice would say. It was just not right, and you should probably have given him a better reason than "because you're mafia." Even "You seem scummy to me" would be better than that, although I'd still wonder why you didn't provide detail. Yes, just that simple post made me think you are scum - even over Despo. Earlier, I thought you probably were not scum, and this is changing my mind. And you basically saying that me being a new player is why I'm thinking this could be trying to take advantage over the fact that I'm new, and disguising it as helping me when in reality, you are trying to lead me off track. (I'm probably wrong on this, even if you are scum - thinking of something like this would probably be pretty hard, but then again, you're a very experienced player.)

 

So, yes, I do still think you are scum. And it's not that random of an accusation, I do have reasoning behind it. And yes, I'm pretty sure I'm the only person in this game who thinks both you and Despo are scum (although I do think you are more likely to be) because you've been so against each other in this game; it's crazy and sort of unrealistic. Maybe things like this happen often, but I've never seen it before. It seems to me you are trying to separate yourselves.

[Tommyrod]

As someone who loves lynching Darthe, I don't think you can take his "I voted you because you are mafia" line as anything but null. Dry sardonic quips are just him regardless of alignment. If anything, him not trying to impress anyone makes it slightly more likely that he's town than scum. So I'll say he's like 65% town to my eyes just from having talked to him so far; you're like 85%.

[Lenlo]

He certainly has the rhetoric and pathos but I retain the logos and ethos

I almost misread that as logos and egos. :P I was so confused for a second.

[dawnflower8]

As someone who loves lynching Darthe, I don't think you can take his "I voted you because you are mafia" line as anything but null. Dry sardonic quips are just him regardless of alignment. If anything, him not trying to impress anyone makes it slightly more likely that he's town than scum. So I'll say he's like 65% town to my eyes just from having talked to him so far; you're like 85%.

I've never played with him before; maybe he does things like that often. But that seems like a very new-player type thing to say.

 

Also, Darthe, what is your read on me? 

[Darthe]

Honestly that was really clear if you read any of the previous pages.  I have given nearly a dozen reasons to vote Des and you're flat ignoring each of those dawn?  It makes you appear incompetent at worst and like you just didn't read the thread at best.  

[Darthe]

 

As someone who loves lynching Darthe, I don't think you can take his "I voted you because you are mafia" line as anything but null. Dry sardonic quips are just him regardless of alignment. If anything, him not trying to impress anyone makes it slightly more likely that he's town than scum. So I'll say he's like 65% town to my eyes just from having talked to him so far; you're like 85%.

I've never played with him before; maybe he does things like that often. But that seems like a very new-player type thing to say.

 

Also, Darthe, what is your read on me? 

 

 

If I had a vig shot I think I'd shoot myself in the head and save the trouble of trying to explain things to someone that doesn't have ears.

[Lenlo]

I still wanna test what kinda chaos would happen if someone just up and day vigged themselves in the first 30 seconds of the game. Theres a way to jumpstart it.

[dawnflower8]

Honestly that was really clear if you read any of the previous pages.  I have given nearly a dozen reasons to vote Des and you're flat ignoring each of those dawn?  It makes you appear incompetent at worst and like you just didn't read the thread at best.  

Yes, I know you gave reasons on previous pages. But I'm still wondering why you said it that way, instead of something like "You should know, I've given a bunch of reasons why I think you're scum"