[Advanced] Twilight Mafia Game over - Mafia win

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Salami (4) - Hallia, Tina, Des, Cory

Des-Des (2) - Dawn, Darthe

Tina (2) - Jack, Lenlo

Verbal (1) - Clov

Cory (1) - Dice

 

Not Voting - BFG, Salami, Verbal, Pral

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 

DEADLINE: Tuesday, Noon EST approx 27 hours from now. 

[dawnflower8]

Dawn iso:

 

 

 

First post!

 

 

 

TEAM JACOB

TEAM EVERYONE DIES

 

 

 

Team Everyone Dies is a real team now. YES. 

 

 

Vote Everyone

 

 

(I don't think I'm allowed to do that, but whatever.)

 

 

Vote Despo

 

...because he is Team Jacob.

 

 

My team doesn't suck, it's TEAM EVERYONE DIES. That's the awesomest team ever. 

 

 

 

Also, Des is town.

 

Tina is rand to be town.

 

Cory is rand to be maf.

 

I am rand to be Perrin.

 

I had a fish named Perrin once.  He was a betta.  He got cold and didn't wake up last January 1.

*is confused by this post*

 

 

 

 

Also, Des is town.

 

Tina is rand to be town.

 

Cory is rand to be maf.

 

I am rand to be Perrin.

 

I had a fish named Perrin once.  He was a betta.  He got cold and didn't wake up last January 1.

Des can't be town. HE IS ON TEAM JACOB. 

 

That automatically makes him scum.

 

 

 

 

How many teams are there?!!

I need to make an informed decision, guys.Please help me

There is:

1. Team Edward
3. Team Jacob
5. Team Guy who almost hit Bella with a car
7. Team this is all really stupid
9. Team Everyone Dies

If you are either Team Edward or Team Jacob, you are OBVIOUSLY SCUM. 

 

 

 

*DOESN'T CARE AND CAPSLOCKS ANYWAY* 

 

CAPSLOCK MAKES ME SOUND LOUD AND POWERFUL LIKE THE GREAT LORD OF THE DARK

 

 

CAPSLOCKING IS WORTH THE PUNISHMENT

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

 

 

Nobody does.

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

 

 

*notices that more people have voted Despo*

 

Yes! Let's get that Team Jacob member put of here! 

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

 

 

 

 

*notices that more people have voted Despo*

 

Yes! Let's get that Team Jacob member put of here! 

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

 

You're about as helpful as your brother.

I'm not as annoyingly spammy, though.

 

 

 

 

Never seen that role here. 

 

About Dawn - not sure if she is new and not sure what to do or if she is just trying to avoid playing. 

Oh, I've played 2 games before - I'm just not getting any real scum reads on anyone, is all.

 

 

 

And in case you are wondering why I am clucking like a chicken - it's not because I'm immature. It's a punishment Leelou gave me for capslocking. (Oops, I forgot to put it on my last post - sorry!)

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

 

 

So no, my role is not the "village idiot"

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

 

 

 

 

Oh oops I thought Tina was on there cause they are tied closely in my reads. Thats what happens when you use your breaks from lab reports to do mafia. Dont do that kids.

 

It was you, Dawn and Darthe. I meant less the voting train though and more the attention cause we were focused on Des and Jack and now suddenly its moving to Csarmi.

 

I missed Dawn's vote - I haven't really read any of Dawn's post as serious Mafia bizness yet

 

GET @ ME

 

My vote was actually pretty silly. None of my posts have been that serious.

 

Besides, it is quite difficult to sound serious when you have to cluck like a chicken on every post you make.

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

 

 

 

 

Would not lynch: Des, Tina, Dawn, Clov

WTL: Darthe

Prefer to lynch: Lenlo, Salami

 

If anybody else wants to play Mafia LMK, I'll be here

I'm glad you think so, but why are you so sure I am town? 

 

 

 

 

Mostly fluff, even tho she's been fairly active. Has referenced the "Team _____" thing 8-9 times. Almost no gameplay. The most incriminating post imo is her second to last one (right here) where she tries blaming her PR for not being serious most the game... even tho she was being silly and spammy and fluffy WAAAAAY before her PR was given.

 

I've seen Dawn play recently, and for a newb she's def not that bad. This doesn't look like newbie "I don't know what I'm doing" fluff. It looks like scum trying to hide in fluff and keep from having to seriously contribute anything.

Think about the other 2 games I've played. I was scum in both of those. And I don't think I'm really playing the same way as I did the other games, am I? Other games I was scum and was contributing more (even though I did joke around a lot in my last game.)

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

[hazelkrs1]

@Des I love how you say Tina needs more attention, and that she would of got more if not for you being cased. I however continue to apply pressure and poke at her for get blatant scumminess yet she is lock clear for you. That's pretty gross.

 

Also, I'm not buddying darthe are clov. Just stating the obvious. In darthe's last game he was scum. He was playing very off the cuff now he's not. That's not a lot to go on but it is something. My own version of lock clear for now. :p

 

Never played with clov before but his posts seem well thought out. He's been posting reasonably but I would like him to expand on that statement you highlighted.

 

Dawn has played 3 games now and she doesn't draw undo suspicion to herself ergo I think she's playing decently for her experience level.

 

Eh? When did I say Tina needed more attention? Please show me where I said that.

 

I have a town read on Tina, yes. You aren't "continuing to apply pressure", you're parking your vote on stale reasoning and meanwhile letting the game pass you by.

 

That being said, I don't draw the conclusion that Tina is town because of your "push" on her nor do I draw the conclusion that you are scum because she seems town and had similar thoughts to mine. The reads I have on each of you are wholly independent from one another. Not sure what point you were trying to make or what you thought was "pretty gross".

 

You say you're not buddying Darthe or Clov, so it's just coincidence then that you townread the two people who came to your defense?

 

Will you put forth any thoughts this game that don't have to get drug out by mention of your name? Top three scum, top three town?

 

I had hoped for more than this des. You once again have greatly exxadurated segments too see how people own up in reactions too them.

 

Uh- what?

 

I didn't really exaggerate anything Darthe. I put my thoughts out there, if you disagree, meh, but I wasn't and am not blowing smoke up anyone's ass. I didn't really have any "reaction tests" or anything in my last bunch of posts. The stuff I pointed out was legit stuff I think needs looking at and the reads I posted are generally how I feel about everyone. I might have a name or two in a different place that what I said on thread, but then I will almost always do that.

 

No cloak and dagger here bro.

[hazelkrs1]

Unvote, Vote Clov in the hopes that my vote isn't frozen for some reason (and that it's just a sleepy mod )

[hazelkrs1]

 

Think about the other 2 games I've played. I was scum in both of those. And I don't think I'm really playing the same way as I did the other games, am I? Other games I was scum and was contributing more (even though I did joke around a lot in my last game.)

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

 

 

This post right here- defending yourself by attempting to use your own meta- only strengthens the scumread I have on you Dawn.

 

Think about it for a sec.

 

How difficult would it be to change your playstyle a bit, after a couple of games as scum, in order to use this exact defense at this point? Not that difficult at all. This makes the point you raised completely moot.

 

Furthermore as a newer player, your meta is much more subject to change than most, but honestly I would contest that your play isn't even all that different. I don't care to compare those games with this one however- in this one, your play has seemed scummy to me. You have pretty much failed to contribute anything to the scumhunt, even tho you've been somewhat active. You extended RVS jokes past the stage where they were relevant. You tried blaming your lack of serious play on your PR, even tho your non-serious play was the reason you got a PR in the first place.

 

So why shouldn't I find you scummy, Dawn?

 

And while we're at it- what do you think of me? Do you think I'm scum? Do you have any confident town reads?

[Leelou]

Unvote, Vote Clov in the hopes that my vote isn't frozen for some reason (and that it's just a sleepy mod )

 

Mod has bad allergies and is greatly distracted by a boy. Please pardon her. All vote count mishaps are mistakes, so please feel free to correct me...lol 

[Sedai]

Yay back at work again! Just in time for another wot too!

 

 

 

Far more serious than Des is taking this game so far, yes.

 

On Day 1 you won't get anything much stronger than pointing out direct contradictions, three people who are voting directly together and two trains that they have been on that clearly used follow along reasoning or an absence of any merit to illicit reactions.

 

Give me one reason why I, as a townie who can't know other peoples alignment, should follow on that sort of lead doggedly?

First paragraph is a completely unfair and untrue barb at me. I have taken the game very seriously so far, and my play supports this. I was off for 5 days while it was starting, but you can go back through my posts and stuff yourself on all the WIM in them.

 

Second paragraph is close to unintelligible. One thing I think you said was that there was an absence of any merit to illicit reaction by some of the votehopping going on... and how exactly are you able to divine this??? You're straight pulling this right out your ass dude. You can't say whether someone has or hasn't been trying to illicit reactions with their vote or posts.

 

Third paragraph is terribad. So you're essentially saying townies shouldn't follow on anything, since you also point out that on Day 1 there won't be much to go on. This would just lead to everyone trying to case their own suspect, likely leading to difficulty consolidating on any singular targets which both decreases the threat of lynch on every one of them and increases the chances that there will be a lame late rushed consolidation lynch on someone.

 

You're pretty much telling us that you think town should settle for one or two trains day 1 and not move around much... and I find this to be the exact opposite of what town should try to do Day 1. DM has long Day 1's, we should use them to our benefit. Spreading votes and pressure around Day 1 helps get as many involved in the discussion as possible and gets as many thread interactions as possible, which gives town a treasure trove to dig through on later rereads.

 

So to you vote-hopping is bad, and worth fosing and linking a number of people together who are vote-hopping, and also enough to clear one of the people they voted for. Okay.

 

 

 

I doubt Tina calls that much attention to herself as town; I've read one game where she was Maf on VS and she was happy to slank to victory as a half-absentee

 

 

Shes not bring attention to her self though. She popped in with one vote and then let you and Des handle the rest, doing nothing since then except move the vote to another person where you and Des then follow. Again.

A) She's def getting more attention than she usually would at this point of a game

B) She likely would have gotten more attention had peeps not been focused on me or other stuff

I would highly suggest Lenlo/Darthe/Salami trains for today

 

Darthe I guess could be town because he really just seems to enjoy being difficult at times even though I can't follow his mindset whatsoever

Bold is actually what makes Darthe more likely to be town imo. He's showing WIM, he's just wrong a lot and viewing the thread from the wrong perspective. This is a strong towntell for Darthe.

 

 

Looked fine to me

 

Glad to see some of your Clov-Paranoia shine through, but the fact that I didn't even give a supporting quote should have sent a warning bell at least to you.

 

Welcome to the higher end of my nulls, though I'd really prefer you to be town after the last few circles you've run on me. What are your thoughts on Lenlo and Darthe this game?

 

Darthe is my strongest town read at this point. The only thing scummy about Jack to me thus far is his retaliation vote on Tina. Despot was trying to make something out of nothing IMO with the whyme fryme, so Darthe was right to argue against it. Not only scum focuses on defending themselves - anybody who realizes they're town, and lynching town is bad, should question unexplained lynches against them.

 

On top of that, I think Darthe's train of thought on you is perfectly fair.

 

My reaction is that you voted someone after I just cased them without providing any comment was not okay.

 

He did the work, you piled on without a word, despite having just said Despot was town. If he ended up getting trained today from that lynch, you would be one of the first people I would want to look at.

 

Lenlo is town-leaning null for me ATM. Good points about Tina leading the wagons and you and Despot following (though you were on Csarmi first, before moving to Despot). I liked his answer in Post 169 about Csarmi being an easier lynch than Jack, too.

Emphasized a potential slip here- Clov might have a priori knowledge that I'm town. He doesn't say if I got mislynched as town or trained and then flipped town, he simply says if I had gotten trained today (and eventually lynched) that he'd be looking at Cory. Looks like he might have just spewed me town and him scum in one precious moment

 

 

 

Despot making something out of nothing is generally his Day 1 town MO - if I know this then Darthe knows this, so if he has something on Des besides that I'm quite interested

Its not just his D1 town MO its his D1 MO no matter what he is. :P

Aye, I can vouch for this. I know my meta well, and know how to hide in it or abuse it to my advantage.

 

As scum or town, I try getting the game started as fast as possible and will often use weak cases to help do so.

I know a lot more about Des than you. I've been playing with him my entire career and we are probably the closest thing to a friendly rivalry that this entire website has. It isn't that one of us starts a game, it is how. This is the exact reason that we are on one another almost instantly each game and if we aren't we wreck games.

 

Still proud that I caught him on his first post one game. He said "ok" or something similar.

 

I anticipate Des to present charismatic arguments, force situations and generally flare on people to boost their reactivity. He then takes their reactions and uses those to whittle away at them. It is him regardless of if he is town or scum and regardless of if he is on town or scum though in time he has become better at recognizing the differences.

 

However, town Des is going to attack. He is suicidal town and he is going to play to WIN on D1 because he knows he is either getting lynched for being entirely wrong or getting NK'd for being entirely right by the 3rd phase.

 

Mafia Des won't do this. He plays with the same bravado to imitate it but his tone changes because he can't afford to lose himself and he tends to not trust his team to win on their own. He wants to remain in control of the situations and so he will be more conscientious.

 

Any time I catch des caring for his own life, attempting to keep control or leaving himself a way out of every situation I go for it. Here we see the first and third.

Bold- I disagree entirely with your notion that I try staying alive as long as possible as scum and don't trust my teammates. I can prove this as well if you like.

 

Since it's under discussion, my mafia meta is actually not to care about survival whatsoever, and I'm pretty sure I've explained this to Darthe before. I'm generally too high profile to hope I'll never be viewed by an investigative role or targeted by a Vig of some kind or something, so I've tailored my play accordingly to still allow me to be affective. I actually will start the game expecting to die at some point, so I'll prepare for that eventuality by tying myself to townies and sowing as much wifom as I can so that town chases a bunch of dead ends looking for my teammates after I die. Again, I'm pretty sure me and Darthe have discussed this before- that we are lodestones for PR's.

 

So yeah, Darthe's perception of my mafia meta is completely incorrect. In fact, over the last few months, I have been scum oh mebbe ~ 6 or 7 times. During that time, I was on two mafia teams where I survived to the end, the Champions game where my team swept town, and the I don't know what it was called but me and Verbal were the two werewolves and we were pretty much awesome, town never suspected either one of us lol. Each other time I've been scum, I actually died very early on. In fact, I have been lynched D1 as scum 3 distinct times in my recent memory.

 

And guess what happened each of those times. My team still won. I have an excellent winning rate as town or mafia incidentally. Yes, I'm bragging, but eh we were discussing it.

 

Anyways, since you think me caring for my own life is a meta scumtell for me, even tho it isn't, can you at least show examples of where it seemed I cared for my life? I don't remember ever posting like that this game, I def haven't felt any immediate concern for my life. Show how I've been "leaving himself a way out of every situation" while you're at it as well, since that's not exactly the easiest point to refute due to the vagueness of the statement.

As Darthe said, thats the general feel I get from Des. Nowhere near as indepth as his. I dont have the rivalry they have, im just there, but I rarely see Des care whether or not he gets lynched as town.

 

Also having a rival sounds like fun. I need one. >.>

Like I just explained above, I don't care whether or not I get lynched as town or mafia. If I'm town, I think it will usually be because of a derp on town's part. If I'm scum I hope that I left behind enough wifom to help my team out.

 

And having a rival is actually loads of fun hehe. I've had several through my mafia career

 

It allows you to mask your meta, get to know one person's tells really well, and most importantly use it to set up gambits and stunts.

Hey guys busy weekend

 

So cory I'm no longer Lock Scum not sure if I should be flattered or leery.

 

Tina is where the votes should be IMO. She has been voting flippantly and has waited in most cases for someone to provide her reason for her. Her and Des are becoming so intertwined in gameplay it's providing lolz as people are just glossing over it.

 

I agree Lenlo has a different tone this game to start but it is the start and I don't think I'd be okay just to lynch him for that.

 

Clovdyx has been playing really well and reasonable and he gets me.

 

Darthe is playing complete opposite from his most recent showing as scum. Not enough to clear him but I feel more easy about him.

 

Cory seems to be doing the Cory thing but a little muted I think worth looking into. Apparently "reserved" is the key word for him today

 

Csarmi, I forgot he was playing.

 

Dawn has also been playing a smooth game IMO for her experience level.

 

If I missed anyone I'm sorry. Post more.

I don't like your nudges at Lenlo and Cory in this post. I also think you're not so subtly trying to buddy Clov and Darthe, who both came to your defense earlier.

 

Lastly tho, I don't get what you're saying about Dawn. Is that a lame scummy soft nudge/fos? Or a general compliment to her? Recently she played in a game with you, and even tho she was scum a lot of people talked about how well she had played for a beginner. I'm thinking you forgot this and just decided to shoot at low hanging fruit by fos'ing a noob.

It bodes ill because the trains changed majorly in a short amount of time. That amount of traction and indecisiveness, especially from a particular group, either means that a good part of the votes needed to lynch are being led around by the nose or town doesn't have its crap together at all.

 

Des clearly is the best lynch of the three. I am voting him after all.

 

Salami is more likely town than mafia anyways, but I would say that that is exacerbated from the attempt of that same group to form a train on him for reasoning that, as I pointed out, literally did not exist. They didn't cite anything. Added onto that the fact that he was the latest of a defacto train switch and the potential for that to be mafia led and I would say that he goes from the ~75% we all have to ~90% to be town.

I just can not disagree with the premise of the first paragraph any more.

 

Vote and train hopping does NOT indicate indecisiveness, if anything it indicates a town that is doing a good job of keeping voting activity up. The more trains you see Day 1, the more info can be gained later on in the game.

 

So to you, town would "have its crap together" if they were all leaving their votes parked on their highest scum read instead of spreading out pressure to multiple targets?

 

Okay.

 

 

And your reasoning for Csarmi being town is complete BS btw. Makes no sense and you're unwilling to accept that so you're fluffing your way around it.

Sorry for the horrible activity folks. Some major sh#t is happening in RL (several major problems actually) and I can't give the game any focus. I really don't know what to do... I'd hate to ask for a replacement.

If you got RL stuff man, ask for a replacement. Replacements are no fun, but might as well do it early if it's going to happen instead of be inactive for longer and then still have to replace out or something.

This is where I got that from. When I read it the first time it read like you wanted Tina to get more pressure.

 

On second read it looks like more defending of Tina.

[Pralaya]

Vote Count

 

Jack (1) - Cory

Hallia (1) - Jack

Clov (1) - Tina

Salami (1) - Hallia

Darthe (1) - Des-Des

Des-Des (1) - Dawn

Verbal (1) - Clov

 

Not Voting - BFG, Darthe, Dice, Salami, Verbal, Pral, Lenlo

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 

We can´t have it like this. 

 

Unvote. Vote Jack

 

Reading town on Tina for this. She is much more careful and would never go for a rash move as scum. 

 

Csarmi and Jack's reaction on this is null, IMo. Jack seemed to have just questioned Tina for her vote though making it like an OMGUS vote. Csarmi does this kind of questioning every game. What is different is that he is not as active this game, but he clarified in his latest post saying that he had some RL issues 

 

Des and Darthe had a back and forth after this. I found Darthe's argument to be convincing and he also seems to genuinely scumhunt later in the thread. Des is always mixed around this period. His quick change of votes with the excuse of testing reactions doesn't exactly look good. SLightly leaning scum on him.

 

 

I think Jack is town and im undecided on Des. Darthe I want to lean town atm and im thinking Tina could use more pressure because ever since that vote on Jack shes been coasting and letting others do the fighting for her.

 

##Vote Tina

 

Don't really like this vote. He mentions putting pressure on her but it looks more like wanting to push her case further.

 

After Tina's response, he is still good about his read on her

 

Alright now Tina shows up. Doesnt give any reads on any of the main contenders in that scuffle, straddles the fence and then trys to move it to someone who would, most likely imo, be an easier lynch than Jack.

 

Still feeling good about where I am.

 

Tina does give her opinions on Des, Darthe, Jack in her post without giving reads. However, with just 1-2 pages of serious play, I don't understand what he expects of her, other than comfirming his bias. 

 

I explained my csarmi vote before Tina's: csarmi's second post of this game is a "Why, what's wrong" to Tina's response to Jack (? IIRC) - I see that sort of prodding to be rare for town (who are looking more into interactions than being sympathetic mediators), Last game I played with town Salami he was very #YOLO and spammy and this game he's been absent and his few posts have been very reserved; I was maf with him once of VS and remember him being very reserved about it.

 

Des making an exaggerated case early day 1 is town Des MO; he tries to get the ball rolling instead of being a gutless instigator like you are being

 

I doubt Tina calls that much attention to herself as town; I've read one game where she was Maf on VS and she was happy to slank to victory as a half-absentee

 

Give me something concrete, because this "well look at these train formations" wishy-washy commit to nothing one-of-these-three-is-Mafia-but-maybe-not hogwash does not look good on you.

 

Cory, who also had sudden and unexplained "reaction testing" posts as Des, does bring out a better read in this post. I agree about Tina but not the read regarding Des. However, the post is to the point and makes me lean town on Cory. 

 

Lastly, Dawn is null. Clov seems to be slightly leaning scum. I don't know either of their playstyles very well, but the posts by Clov seems to be slightly nudging stuff here and there. BFG is null too, having seen only one of her post which is her usual recap. 

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Salami (3) - Hallia, Tina, Cory

Des-Des (2) - Dawn, Darthe

Tina (2) - Jack, Lenlo

Verbal (1) - Clov

Cory (1) - Dice

Clov (1) - Des

 

Not Voting - BFG, Salami, Verbal, Pral

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 

DEADLINE: Tuesday, Noon EST approx 26 hours from now. 

[Pralaya]

vote Lenlo

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Salami (3) - Hallia, Tina, Cory

Des-Des (2) - Dawn, Darthe

Tina (2) - Jack, Lenlo

Verbal (1) - Clov

Cory (1) - Dice

Clov (1) - Des

Lenlo (1) - Pral

 

Not Voting - BFG, Salami, Verbal

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 

DEADLINE: Tuesday, Noon EST approx 26 hours from now. 

[Sedai]

Also des I still have my vote on Tina. And I address her vote and game play at every opportunity that's afforded itself. I just don't see the purpose of making non stop posts pointing out the same.

 

1. I addressed it in my initial vote

2. I addressed it to you

3. I addressed it in my player profiling

4 I addressed it to bfg

5. I'm addressing it now. So 5 times isn't letting it slide and reverting back to initial points.

[hazelkrs1]

Jack... is it really so hard to edit out the irrelevant portions of a quote to make it easier to see what you're referring to?

 

And yeah no, I never said Tina needed more pressure.

 

Also des I still have my vote on Tina. And I address her vote and game play at every opportunity that's afforded itself. I just don't see the purpose of making non stop posts pointing out the same.

1. I addressed it in my initial vote
2. I addressed it to you
3. I addressed it in my player profiling
4 I addressed it to bfg
5. I'm addressing it now. So 5 times isn't letting it slide and reverting back to initial points.

 

That's the whole point I'm making man. All you're doing is just restating the same thing over and over. You're not bringing new insight into the issue, not following up on the matter with Tina directly, you're not considering how other developments affect your read on her, like for example even her more recent posts.

 

Rehashing the same thing from earlier in the thread without being willing to adapt to everything else going on is a strong scumtell in my book. Scum will park their votes and rehash the same arguments over and over more often in my experience. Town are more open to changing their reads as the game develops, especially early on.

 

Plus- you say you've been rehashing this over and over, restating it 5 times for everyone to see.

 

Tina has two votes on her. Meaning you restating the same thing has convinced exactly one other person that you might be on to something. Yet there is only about a day left before deadline.

 

Do you care whether or not Tina actually gets lynched? If so, why are you not campaigning harder for her lynch? Otherwise, another protown move would be moving your vote elsewhere in order to actually accomplish something Day 1.

 

Parking your vote for a while on a train that doesn't seem to be likely to gain immediate traction anytime soon is scummy, plain and simple. You're good enough to know that a townie shouldn't waste their vote, especially not on the first day.

[Lenlo]

Des agree to disagree on Tina.

 

Interesting possible slip. How come you have Lenlo as town?

 

I´m starting to get conserns about Jack and Lenlo because of their votes on me. I thought Jack was "playing along" to help me get the game starting but he still thinks my vote on him is the scummiest thing that have happened in the game.

 

@Jack - should I have voted you and written "This is just a vote to get the game started"? Doesn´t work very well, right? Explaining myself too early isn´t very good in cases like this, mostly because there were no reason for picking you. Not that most people didn´t get it anyway.

 

@Csarmi - I´m sorry to hear that. If you can´t play then ask to get replaced.

So you think I'm scum only cause I'm voting you? Or are you only "concerned" about me? Cause I'm voting for who I think is scum, you, and nothin you have done has put a damper on my suspicion of you.

[hazelkrs1]

Also Pray gets some minor townie points for that recap post. Still need a lot more however before I put him in the LOCK CLEAR group.

[Sedai]

Des it is from mobile. I would of edited but didn't want to mess up the quotes integrity.

[Lenlo]

Pral jumps in and with his second post of the game goes to bat for Tina. You don't like my vote cause I'm not just putting pressure on her, I'm pushing my case on her? Ofc I am! If I don't seriously Pursue it then it's not real pressure, it's a half-baked vote that she can shrug off.

 

On phone do these might be abit weird with capitols and such. Sorry.

[hazelkrs1]

Des agree to disagree on Tina.

 

Interesting possible slip. How come you have Lenlo as town?

 

I´m starting to get conserns about Jack and Lenlo because of their votes on me. I thought Jack was "playing along" to help me get the game starting but he still thinks my vote on him is the scummiest thing that have happened in the game.

 

@Jack - should I have voted you and written "This is just a vote to get the game started"? Doesn´t work very well, right? Explaining myself too early isn´t very good in cases like this, mostly because there were no reason for picking you. Not that most people didn´t get it anyway.

 

@Csarmi - I´m sorry to hear that. If you can´t play then ask to get replaced.

So you think I'm scum only cause I'm voting you? Or are you only "concerned" about me? Cause I'm voting for who I think is scum, you, and nothin you have done has put a damper on my suspicion of you.

 

 

 

First of all- nuh uh. You don't just get to say "we'll agree to disagree" in a mafia game. If you still disagree with me on something, state what it is, otherwise why even state that we disagree in the first place?

 

Second- really? You tell me we'll agree to disagree about your primary scum read, the person whom you're voting atm, who has 2 votes on them and have had those for a while, someone who is also being townread by a number of people in thread.

 

Don't like that Lenlo. This post just made me reconsider my read on you. If you were town, you'd want to convince others to go with you on a top scumread, not agree to disagree with them.

 

Lastly, your response to Tina doesn't look right at all. Looks forced imo. She outright mentions two people that seem questionable to her, yet you try acting like she's tunneling on you. And your tone with the "Nothing you've done has put a damper on my suspicion of you" is off- it makes you look almost too obstinate in your stance on her, like you're unwilling to consider that she could be town.

[hazelkrs1]

Question is Lenlo, are you pushing for a Tina lynch, or are you pushing for a Tina lynch?

[Sedai]

Des. Your the only vote on clov. Plz practice what you preach.

 

I've asked Tina directly and got shrugged off or didn't get an answer.

 

unvote and vote des

 

Your defending Tina is overt and I honestly can't see where your coming from with it. Also you pushing for me to remove my vote from her in favor of a more viable lynch is odd. Since there's only two more people with more votes then her and it's only by one.

[Sedai]

@Tina you waited to long with that bogus back track. I asked you twice. Both times you pointedly ignored it and saying my vote was just omgus. If that was your intent you should of answered the first two times. That reads as rehearsed and it's flimsy.

[Lenlo]

I'm on the phone ATM so my post was dif than normal cause unwanted to get it a short as possible cause typing on the phone is ANNOYING!

 

Once I'm done with this stupid class I'll be able to make real posts again.

[Pralaya]

Pral jumps in and with his second post of the game goes to bat for Tina. You don't like my vote cause I'm not just putting pressure on her, I'm pushing my case on her? Ofc I am! If I don't seriously Pursue it then it's not real pressure, it's a half-baked vote that she can shrug off.

 

On phone do these might be abit weird with capitols and such. Sorry.

 

Except you didn't exactly put pressure on her. One post where you mention about putting pressure and then another where you confirm your suspicion and some minor mentions of Tina here and there. I don't see that as seriously pursuing it. 

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Salami (3) - Hallia, Tina, Cory

Des-Des (3) - Dawn, Darthe, Jack

Tina (1) - Lenlo

Verbal (1) - Clov

Cory (1) - Dice

Clov (1) - Des

Lenlo (1) - Pral

 

Not Voting - BFG, Salami, Verbal

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 

DEADLINE: Tuesday, Noon EST approx 26 hours from now. 

[hazelkrs1]

Des. Your the only vote on clov. Plz practice what you preach.

 

I've asked Tina directly and got shrugged off or didn't get an answer.

 

unvote and vote des

 

Your defending Tina is overt and I honestly can't see where your coming from with it. Also you pushing for me to remove my vote from her in favor of a more viable lynch is odd. Since there's only two more people with more votes then her and it's only by one.

 

Bahahaha what a terrible response. You're pretty much outed "hopper" to me now Jack, thank you

 

 

I just placed a vote on Clov after pointing out what looks to me like a scumslip. Others have also seemed like they would be interested in hearing his response to what I pointed out, indicating they could be open to voting him as well.

 

You otoh were pushing a stale train on someone that many in the thread are reading as town, and you were simply restating the original case on her without ever really bringing anything new to the table.

 

I HAVE been practicing what I preach Jack. When I preach at the Sermon of Scumhunting, I shall be sure to include a nice visual passage just for you and for the generosity with which you have given yourself away to me with.

 

You honestly can't see where I'm coming from regarding my defense of Tina? Even tho I have been very open and vocal about why I think Tina is town and have made my evaluation on her as transparent as possible while the game was going on?

 

Bullshanks.

 

And I want you to make your vote useful. Parking it on a stale train isn't useful, you know that. Now you're resorting to yet more OMGUS to make yourself appear active again.

 

If you are/were town, you could continue voting Tina for all I cared, I just would have wanted to see you trying to garner support for the train then in that case. The manner in which you have followed up on your reads this game does not look organic to me, does not look like you trying to actually hunt scum.