Pokemon XY

[reyler]

Apparently the advance material that it first showed up in referred to it as Mewtwo's "Eclair Forme", which I'm guessing is being used in the same way Square uses it (it's French for lightning). So it might be like Shaymin's Sky Forme, et al. That said, I don't know why they decided one of the most overpowered Pokemon needed an alternate form.

 

Also, I wasn't aware the games had anything approaching chronology between all generations - the only one I knew confirmed was the three year gap between RBY and GS, because of how frequently it was mentioned in-game.

[Nolder]

Apparently the advance material that it first showed up in referred to it as Mewtwo's "Eclair Forme", which I'm guessing is being used in the same way Square uses it (it's French for lightning). So it might be like Shaymin's Sky Forme, et al. That said, I don't know why they decided one of the most overpowered Pokemon needed an alternate form.

Not to mention one of the oldest. I'd rather just have a new pokemon or at least a new evolution for an older pokemon...

 

 

Also, I wasn't aware the games had anything approaching chronology between all generations - the only one I knew confirmed was the three year gap between RBY and GS, because of how frequently it was mentioned in-game.

 

 

Generation I/III:

The events of Red, Blue, Yellow, FireRed, LeafGreen, Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald:

• Red leaves Pallet Town on his Pokémon journey after his rival, Professor Oak's grandson, Blue. After getting the eight Badges of Kanto, defeating Team Rocket along the way, he challenges Kanto's Elite Four, then its current Champion, none other than Blue himself. After defeating Blue, Red becomes the Champion, then ventures to the Sevii Islands to eradicate Team Rocket and help Celio to connect his Pokémon Net Center to the Hoenn region.
• Brendan/May leaves Littleroot Town on a Pokémon journey shortly after moving to the Hoenn region from Johto by saving the local Pokémon Professor from an attacking wild Pokémon. At first, there is a deep-seated rivalry with Professor Birch's daughter/son, however, later on, the rivalry is with Wally instead. After defeating Hoenn's eight Gym Leaders and, with the help of Rayquaza, calming both Groudon and Kyogre, released from their banishment by Team Magma and Team Aqua, respectively, he/she challenges and defeats Hoenn's Elite Four and current Champion, becoming the Champion him/herself, much to the astonishment of Birch's child.

 

 

Between Generation I/III and Generation II/IV:

• The events of Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon Ranger.
• Eruption of the volcano on Cinnabar Island causes destruction of many areas on the island.
• Blue takes the position of Gym Leader in the now empty Viridian Gym.
• Red leaves to Mt. Silver, training day and night, leaving Lance to act as Champion, while Lorelei returns to her home in Four Island, and Agatha retires from her position as a member of the Kanto Elite Four. This leaves three vacancies on the roster for Elite Four.
• Two of these vacancies are filled by Karen and Will. The other is filled by Koga, who abdicates his position as Gym Leader to his daughter, Janine.
• Extensive research confirms the existence of Steel and Dark types in the region of Kanto. (The events of FireRed and LeafGreen retcon this discovery and say that they had always been known as Generation III and I are considered to take place contemporaneously. This is backed up by HeartGold and SoulSilver, when Jasmine's pre-battle speech was changed from the subject that the Steel-type was recently discovered.)
• Baoba leaves Kanto when its Safari Zone is closed and begins planning to open a new Safari Zone in Johto, as a replacement.
• The Pokémon Tower is converted into a Radio Tower.
• A Pal Park is opened in place of the Kanto Safari Zone.
• Miracle Cycle moves from Cerulean City to Goldenrod City.
• Groudon and Kyogre retreat to the region of Fiore to rest after their battle.
• Giratina returns to the Distortion World.
• A new Battle Frontier is built in Sinnoh and Johto.
• Blaine relocates his Gym to the Seafoam Islands due to his Gym on Cinnabar Island being destroyed by a volcanic eruption.

 

 

After Generation I/III:

• Humans abandon the PokéPark.
• The Sky Prism breaks.
• The events of PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure.

 

 

Three years after Generation I/Generation III (Generation II/Generation IV):

• The events of Gold, Silver, Crystal, Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia, and Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs.
• Ethan/Kris/Lyra leaves New Bark Town on an errand for Professor Elm, bonding with his/her starter Pokémon on the way. A red-haired boy steals one of Elm's three Pokémon, and challenges him/her as Ethan/Kris/Lyra's journey across Johto continues. A revived Team Rocket, using plans formulated three years prior, enrages many Gyarados, including a red one, at the Lake of Rage as they proceed to take over the Goldenrod Radio Tower in a desperate attempt to contact Giovanni. As they are defeated, the leader vows to never again re-form Team Rocket, and Ethan/Kris/Lyra continues to gather Johto's Badges, eventually gaining all eight and traveling to the Pokémon League at Indigo Plateau in Kanto. After defeating the Elite Four and their Champion, Lance, Ethan/Kris/Lyra then heads to the Kanto region to challenge its eight Gyms, which have changed from three years prior. After gaining all eight of their Badges, for a total of sixteen, Professor Oak declares him/her ready to travel to Mt. Silver, where he/she meets and defeats Red.
• Lucas/Dawn and Barry leave Twinleaf Town in an attempt to see a Pokémon like the recently reported red Gyarados in the nearest of Sinnoh's lakes, Lake Verity. After being attacked by a wild Starly at the lake, and using one of Professor Rowan's Pokémon to fend off the attacker, (apart from in Platinum canon, where they receive their starter Pokémon before actually reaching the lake) their journey begins in earnest, and both Lucas/Dawn and Barry challenge the Sinnoh region's eight Gyms to gain the Badges necessary to challenge the Pokémon League. Along the way, however, Lucas/Dawn is brought into many conflicts with Team Galactic, whose leader, Cyrus, wishes to remake the entire universe in his image with the powers of the legendary Pokémon Dialga and Palkia. Defeating the team and calming Dialga/Palkia/Giratina, Lucas/Dawn challenges Sinnoh's Elite Four and Champion, Cynthia, and becomes Champion him/herself.
• Hayley, a friend of Bebe, opens up a Pokémon Ranch.

 

 

Approximately two years after Generation II/Generation IV:

• Cipher and Team Snagem return in the Orre Region, and create XD001, a supposedly unpurifiable Shadow Pokémon, but their plans are thwarted by Michael. Meanwhile, Dr. Kaminko and Chobin invent Robo Groudon and Robo Kyogre, and Professor Krane invents the Purify Chamber, where Shadow Pokémon can be purified more easily.

 

 

Between Generation II/IV and Generation V:

• The Team Rocket Grunt who stole the Machine Part returns to Unova intending to reform Team Rocket there as he previously stated. He later falls in love and has a son, moving to Icirrus City.
• Caitlin leaves the Sinnoh/Johto Battle Frontier and returns to Unova, becoming an Elite Four member.
• Team Plasma, under N, creates Genesect in an attempt to create the strongest Pokémon in existence by altering an ancient insect Pokémon with cybernetic upgrades.
• Team Plasma steals Hugh's sister's Purrloin, and Hugh swears to one day get it back.

 

 

A few years after Generation II/Generation IV (Generation V):

• The events of Black and White.
• Hilbert/Hilda along with their friends Cheren and Bianca receive their very first Pokémon in the bedroom of Hilbert/Hilda's house in Nuvema Town from Professor Juniper. The three decide to leave Nuvema Town and go on a journey across their region of Unova, with Cheren wanting to learn as much about every kind of Pokémon possible and Bianca going against the wishes of her dad. Upon arriving in Accumula Town they encounter the nefarious Team Plasma who announce their plans for Pokémon liberation to separate Pokémon from humans. Hilbert/Hilda then battle Team Plasma's leader, a mysterious man known only as N who claims Pokémon are his friends. Hilbert/Hilda make a journey across the land of Unova challenging all eight Gyms and earning all eight Badges. After earning the eighth Badge, they travel to the Pokémon League where they defeat the Elite Four. Upon defeating the Elite Four, they discover that N has already defeated the champion Alder and promptly summons his castle, destroying the Pokémon League Castle. Ghetsis, one of the members of the Seven Sages reveals that he had the plan to separate people and Pokémon so that he could be the only person in the whole world with Pokémon. After defeating N and Ghetsis with Reshiram/Zekrom N becomes sorry for all his wrongdoing and flies off to distant lands on his dragon of legend. Hilbert/Hilda, Cheren, and Bianca continue their journey in Unova and get recruited by an undercover officer codenamed Looker to discover and arrest the remaining six of the Seven Sages. After the arrest of all six, Hilbert/Hilda returns to the Pokémon League, re-defeats the Elite Four, then challenges and defeats Alder, becoming champion of Unova.

 

 

Between Black and White and Black 2 and White 2

• Hilbert/Hilda leaves Unova with his/her Dragon to look for N.
• Bianca officially becomes Professor Juniper's assistant.
• Cilan, Chili, Cress, Lenora, and Brycen retire as Gym Leaders to train.
• Cheren, Roxie, and Marlon become Gym Leaders.
• Alder retires as the Champion, and Iris takes his place.
• Five of the Seven Sages leave Team Plasma, and Ghetsis and Zinzolin form a new Team Plasma solely dedicated to conquering Unova.
• A landslide seals off Route 10 and a majority of Victory Road, forcing another Victory Road to be built. Another landslide seals off Challenger's Cave.

Significant construction occurs in Unova:

• Unova Route 4 is completed, with a small settlement being built on it.
• The Cold Storage in the south of Driftveil City is replaced by the Pokémon World Tournament.
• A section of the mountain near Undella Town is constructed into a new town called Lentimas Town
• The Riches house in Undella Town is demolished, with new villas built in the town.
• The Marine Tube is built between Undella Town and Humilau City, connecting the two.
• The Castelia Sewers are made accessible on Thumb Pier, which lead to Castelia's park, or when flooded, to Castelia's back alley.

 

 

Two years after Black and White

• The events of Black 2 and White 2.
• Nate/Rosa receives his/her first Pokémon from Bianca in his/her hometown of Aspertia City. Together with Hugh, who hopes to take back his sister's Purrloin from Team Plasma, the duo takes on the new lineup of Gyms in the Unova region. After earning their seventh badge from Drayden, Team Plasma attacks Opelucid City, covering the city in unbreakable ice. The Shadow Triad takes the opportunity to steal the DNA Splicers from Opelucid Gym. Nate/Rosa and Hugh chase Team Plasma to Humilau City, where after earning their final badge, they confront Zinzolin, Colress, and the Shadow Triad at the Giant Chasm. After the Triad releases Hugh's sister's Purrloin, now a Liepard, Hugh tells Nate/Rosa to go ahead and confront Team Plasma's leader, Ghetsis. Just before Ghetsis freezes Nate/Rosa alive with Kyurem's Glaciate, N flies in on Reshiram/Zekrom, saving him/her. However, Ghetsis uses Kyurem's power to turn Reshriam/Zekrom back into an orb, then uses the DNA Splicers to turn Kyurem into Black/White Kyurem. Nate/Rosa knocks out Kyurem, causing the two Dragon Pokémon to separate, then defeats an enraged Ghetsis. Thankful, N suggests that Nate/Rosa proceed to the Pokémon Leauge. Heeding his words, Nate/Rosa ascend Victory Road, defeats the Elite Four, and emerges victorious in battle with the new Champion, Iris. After returning home, Hugh's sister thanks the player for helping her big brother, and tells Nate/Rosa that she has been dreaming of a Zoroark calling Nate/Rosa's name. At Hugh's suggestion, Nate/Rosa returns to Victory Road, finding a Zoroark that leads him/her to the ruins of N's Castle, where N and Reshiram/Zekrom challenge them to battle. After being defeated, N says goodbye to his dragon and releases it by asking it to turn back into an orb to give to Nate/Rosa. Nate/Rosa climbs to the top of Dragonspiral Tower, and faces Reshiram/Zekrom again, this time, in an attempt to capture it.

 

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/History_of_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world

[Nolder]

Sorry I got it a little mixed up. It's 1/3 and 2/4 not 1/4 and 2/3.

[reyler]

Okay I'm not reading all of that

 

Just glancing it over, though, I didn't really see anything to specifically pin down any of the games in relation to eachother, with regards to internal chronology. Hell, it's only recently that they've attempted anything resembling an actual plot or a cast, so I didn't think it really mattered.

[Nolder]

I'm pretty sure the timeline is canon as far as the game chronology goes.

 

The ancient history stuff I think was cobbled together from game and anime sources into something that makes sense.

[Sunrise Lord]

That's interesting.  Never related the games to each other time wise except for when it was mentioned in-game.

[Sunrise Lord]

It's a new forme, apparently. 

[Sunrise Lord]

New ones!

[reyler]

The grass-type goat thing is pretty neat, but that new electric one looks stupid.

[Sunrise Lord]

I like im.  He's homely lookin', and I have a soft spot in my heart for homely things.

 

 

 

I think the riding-on-a-Pokemon-in-the-field thing is gonna be a game changer somehow. 

[reyler]

It's a bicycle with a bladder, I don't see anything to indicate a significant gameplay change.

[Sunrise Lord]

Unless it's like an HM or field move.  For example, you can only reach certain areas by riding or such.

[Nolder]

You know as far as gimmicks go I really enjoyed having my pokemon follow me around in HG/SS. Much more than I thought I would.

That said, I'm with reyler on the riding a pokemon thing. I am completely uninterested in it.

 

I disagree about the new electric type though. I like it's floppy ears.

And I really like that new bird too.

[reyler]

And we've already had "reach certain areas" since Gen 1 - it's called Surf.

[Sunrise Lord]

I wish they'd've made the box art different colors than black and white.  Granted, they do have blue and red for the respective versions, but the black/white scheme has been used three times in a row--BW, B2W2, and now XY.

[Nolder]

And we've already had "reach certain areas" since Gen 1 - it's called Surf.

And Cut. And Strength. And Whirlpool. And Rock Climb.

[reyler]

Well yes, but Surf specifically involved wandering around astride one of your pokemon.

 

Also, it looked to me like they were going back to the blue/red well for the third time for the box art, given those are the dominant colors in the legendaries.

[Nolder]

ah I see

[Sunrise Lord]

Kalos?  I can go with that.  Gogoat?  Not so much.

[Nolder]

That's not the official English names is it?

[Sunrise Lord]

Yep.

[reyler]

"Gogoat" is just a Romanization of the Japanese name, but yes. I don't know why you would be surprised; it's not like previous generations (and especially Gen V) weren't full to the brim with ridiculously stupid names.

[Sunrise Lord]

I wonder how big the world will actually be.  The map of the region doesn't show the routes very clearly, and everything seems so close together.

[Nolder]

Well usually we don't know the english names until the game is getting close to coming out in NA 

[reyler]

That really only applies to the entire Pokedex; the last couple of games have been pretty quick about English names for anything revealed in advance. Also, the Japanese and American branches have been working a lot more closely as time has gone on, getting release dates closer together and such, to the point where half of why I believed the list of English names for Gen V was fake was based purely on how early it came out (the other half was because most of the names were asinine).