Werewolf, the alys mod version ;)

[Sirayn]

There are six of us - you, me, goldeneys, Zylazlo-, Danya and Direwolf Jon. Four innocents, two werewolves. If we lynch an innocent now and an innocent is killed tonight, we have two innocents and two werewolves tomorrow. That's a losing condition, right? Or do the werewolves have to have a majority?

[the dude]

majority i believe. it's a risk, but i think it might be worth it.

[Sirayn]

I'd like to have some confirmation from Alys that a 2-2 distribution would not be a werewolf win. If the game continues at 2-2 ... lynch goldeneys, make it 2-1 ... an innocent killed, make it 1-1 ... kind of hard to lynch in that condition. :lol: It was an original and pretty cool idea, but I'm not sure it's workable.

[Alys Kinch]

i believe that 2-2 means no one wins. you all die!!! :twisted:

[the dude]

the risk is calculated, sirayn. i ask that you trust me on this one.

[Sirayn]

There is no risk. Under your plan, we are merely advancing the day of judgement to today rather than tomorrow. If we choose wrongly today, we won't even get a chance to lynch goldeneys tomorrow, because it will automatically be a draw. Right?

[Alys Kinch]

dj- goldy

goldy- dj

 

the players:

 

the dude

danya

zy

dj

goldy

sira

 

3 to lynch.

[the dude]

true. but if we're right, we win tomorrow.

[Sirayn]

But we're making exactly the same choice now as we would be faced with tomorrow. The only difference is whether we lynch goldeneys first or not. I don't see why we would want to hurry this along when we might learn something interesting between now and tomorrow's vote. :?

[the dude]

hmmm, well, i'll let it be your call. i think that killing dj might pay dividends. but if you're certain it's the better choice to go with goldy, then let's do it and get this sucka movin'. 8)

[Direwolf Jon]

Killing me will help the werewolves out Dude and Sira. As I have mentioned before, Zy is the wolf that you are looking for. He posted an awful lot about wolves at the beginning. If you really want to win this game for us innocents then you will want to vote Zy today or goldy as they are the two remaining wolves.

[Zylazlo-]

...you really do have it out for me! I'm innocent believe me man, I believe you're innocent too, but if you keep pushing towards this I'm just gonna say you're trying to make everyone go back to the beggining of the game when I was basically the devil. :P

 

And I actually think dudes idea about figuring and lynching the non-assured-wolf is a good idea. But... we should all do as we think I guess.

[the dude]

well, i think we've done as much good as we're going to at this point. let's get on with the proceedings, shall we?

[Zylazlo-]

Okay down to buisness then... DJ, Danya and Me... I believe DJ is innocent just way too suspicious of me for some reason because of my dissapearance at the beggining of the game.

 

Danya is totally it for me what say you guys?

[Sirayn]

You just pinged my radar big time, Zylazlo. I used exactly the same tactic (making a big deal of not accusing someone even though they were accusing me) in werewolf 1 when I was the evilest evil that ever eviled.

[Zylazlo-]

I knew I would probably do that, I'm good at that :P.

Still supposing I am evil, can it wait until tomorrow? I mean let's get Danya today pleaaaase! I swear if she's not a wolf... I'll... do something crazy or something... common!

 

Edit: Sorry I stole this from you dude... but I'll eat my own shirt for pete's sake!

[Sirayn]

You read the last twenty posts where we worked out that if we lynch someone who isn't a werewolf we lose the game, right? Or at least, my side loses the game. I don't know about yours. :P

[the dude]

yeah, that was a hella-dirty trick you played that game. prob'ly the dirtiest, and hands down BEST maneuver i've seen in any of these games.

 

i'm just not decided on who the 3rd is. my instincts have forsaken me. for now, though, i'm gonna vote goldeneys.

[the dude]

Edit: Sorry I stole this from you dude... but I'll eat my own shirt for pete's sake!

 

use it with my blessing. god knows i didn't invent it. 8)

[Zylazlo-]

Okay lets just get goldy today and tomorrow... pleaaase Danya! Common! I'm like 110% sure of this! Yes... we might lose bbuuut you'll get to see me eat my shirt!

[the dude]

why danya, though? my personal prime suspect is jon.

[Zylazlo-]

Danya I suspect just because I'm certain of jon's innocence. He's been super zealous in all his wanting to lynch wolves, maybe it's a ploy which in that case it'll just be stupid of my part. And goldy mentioning jon... common he was trying to make us fall for that one! Unless that's a ploy too...

[the dude]

that's the tough part for me too. is this deception, double deception? triple?

 

i'm a lay it out here. zyl, i think you're clean. jon and danya, i'm not so sure, really. the more i think about it, the less i seem to know. after i'm dead, it'll be sirayn and 3 others. i'm oscillating between jon and danya, and i don't know.

[Zylazlo-]

With all this you never really know... I mean maybe they want us to think what we think only to make us think something else...

 

But all and all, thanks for the support man. It's nice to know the avatar doesn't make everyone see me as a wolf.

[Sirayn]

The trick to fake-claiming seer is to: 1. do it in the endgame, so they can't follow the classic tactic for two competing claimants; 2. claim first; and 3. pick a strong innocent player as your fake confirmed innocent to get them onside. You don't have to be especially eloquent to pull it off. Just make sure your lying lies sound logical.

 

Direwolf Jon voted for loki-as-Nevare early. Second vote early. You can double-think it, but the fact is that placing an early vote on a partner is suicidal unless you are deliberately killing them. If you want to see how easy it is to get a major lynch rolling you need look no further than my vote on loki-1 for the flimsiest of reasons on day one. The other votes piled up like a train. If Direwolf Jon did that to his partner, he was crazy.

 

Let me show you some of the voting patterns from day whenever when we lynched loki-as-Nevare.

 

loki 2- 2 (the dude, direwolf)

raena- 3 (loki, kadere, goldy)

zy- 1 (danya)

 

Zylazlo votes for loki-as-Nevare

goldeneys (werewolf) changes vote from Raena to loki-as-Nevare

 

loki 2- 4 (the dude, direwolf, zy, goldy)

raena- 2 (loki, kadere)

zy- 1 (danya)

 

Sirayn (innocent) votes for loki-as-Nevare

Raena (angel) votes for loki-as-Nevare

 

loki 2- 6(the dude, direwolf, zy, goldy, raena, sira)

raena- 2 (loki, kadere)

zy- 1 (danya)

 

Between the first two vote counts at least one werewolf decided to abandon loki-as-Nevare. Why? Two theories:

1. The werewolves decided via PM that loki-as-Nevare was going down. Zylazlo and goldeneys both sent their partner down. I don't understand why they would think this when Raena had more votes than he did at the time.

2. Zylazlo is an innocent. His vote on loki-as-Nevare panicked the werewolves. goldeneys decided to send loki-as-Nevare down a bit further to make him look innocent. This is more probable because at this point the two lynchees would be level on votes, with two werewolves on Raena, who is hard to lynch, and the seer gunning for loki-as-Nevare.

 

It's hard to judge how guilty Danya is because she doesn't post much. :?