[Themed] AVATAR Mafia Game Thread - GAME ON

[Belal-Mafia]

who killed me who!!!!

 

IT WAS YOU!!!! VOTE: LANFEAR

 

I find this more of a joke than anything. The first day vote is normally a bunch of randomness on reasons to put your vote somewhere, maybe he was just trying to put a little pressure on Lanfear to make her crack. Though I too would like to hear from Asmodean, it seems like he isn't trying to defend himself at all. Is he keeping quite so as not to draw too much attention to himself because he's scum or is in simply because he's innocent and he doesn't want to say anything that might put him in a bad position.

 

 

Lanfear is intrigued by this response. On the one hand, Be'lal sounds like an experienced player. On the other hand, he ignores the fact that we have to start playing at some point. And he also ignores the fact that the slower we take to actually start playing, the sooner someone is randomly bandwagoned because "it's almost the deadline and we need to lynch." Lanfear thinks this feels like a subtle defense of Asmodean.

 

- Lanfear

 

 

I am intrigued by this response. I think the trip with the Aelfinn and Eelfinn must've addled your brains dear Lanfear because none of the quotes quoted in your response were in fact mine. So you must think about me an awful lot to get me mixed up with a different forsaken. I'm sorry that your play for my friend Lews didn't pan out, but I always pegged you as someone a littler smarter than that. Someone is getting a little over defensive considering you don't have even half the votes. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

 

 

UNVOTE

 

 

VOTE LANFEAR

 

 

Lanfear is intrigued by this response. On the one hand, Halima sounds like an experienced player. On the other hand, she ignores the fact that we have to start playing at some point. And she also ignores the fact that the slower we take to actually start playing, the sooner someone is randomly bandwagoned because "it's almost the deadline and we need to lynch." Lanfear thinks this feels like a subtle defense of Asmodean.

 

- Lanfear

 

 

Be'lal is correct. For some reason Lanfear confused Be'lal's response with Halima's. But the reasoning still stands.

 

P.S. Here comes Mesaana with reasonless bandwagon #4. Anyone else seeing a pattern here?

 

- Lanfear

 

 

Mesaana voted after my comments, you were getting super defensive and looked like you might be getting close to cracking, which is what pressure voting is all about. You only had 5 votes on you, which isn't even half of a majority so it looked a little suspicious, and I don't find anything mindless about that "bandwagon" it eventually caused you to do your suspicious reveal.

 

Mesaana's excuse for blatant bandwagoning was a "poke" vote, and she said that Lanfear was "skittish" in her reaction to Mesaana's vote.

 

There's a problem here, though. Lanfear has already reacted to blatant bandwagoning in this game, and Lanfear's reaction was the same. If Mesaana thinks Lanfear is "skittish" now, then Mesaana had to think that Lanfear was "skittish" before her vote.

 

This begs the question: why didn't Mesaana simply vote Lanfear for being "skittish" in the first place?

 

Lanfear thinks this is a retcon. Mesaana saw a player halfway to a lynch and jumped on the wagon. Then she made up some nonsense in an attempt to cover herself. Notice that she calls Lanfear "skittish" without actually explaining how Lanfear is skittish.

 

- Lanfear

 

 

 

Lanfear forgot to add that Lanfear will stay on Asmodean for now, but Lanfear is also willing to vote Mesaana.

 

- Lanfear

 

 

I find it interesting that Lanfear would put this out there. Like she's willing to jump on a Mesaana bandwagon if there is one, just because she didn't like her answer as to why she was voting for her, when I think it makes a lot of sense.

 

 

Lanfear had hoped not to do this so early, but Lanfear's wagon is edging dangerously close to the "bandwagon for majority" stage.

 

Lanfear has a very useful role. The closest analog in normal mafia would be the Jack of All Trades. Lanfear has a handful of one-shot abilities: Nation Finder (Lanfear can find out what nation a player belongs to), Healer, and Vigilante.

 

Lanfear had hoped to save the Healer ability for the right moment to catch the mafia off guard, but it looks like Lanfear will be forced to use it tonight (if Lanfear isn't lynched). So, Healer: Do not target Lanfear. There are more important targets at the moment -- yourself and the Avatar. This should go without saying, but Lanfear wants to make sure.

 

And finally, Lanfear would beg the town to stop thinking with the hair on their chests and start considering the behavior of Asmodean or Mesaana.

 

- Lanfear

 

 

To Mordeth:

 

Lanfear revealed early because Lanfear always reveals earlier than L-1. Lanfear has learned not to rely on the awareness of the town or the generosity of the mafia when close to a lynch, so Lanfear revealed sooner rather than later.

 

 

- Lanfear

 

 

 

I also find her reveal very suspect. She said she hated to reveal so early yet she gives her reason for revealing that she always reveals earlier than L-1 when she's close to a lynch. She could be telling the truth, or she could just be scum wanting to save her behind by claiming a role that could potentially be important.

 

*drums fingers idly* After my re-read of the thread, I have to say that I find Asmodean's vote on Lanfear to be more of a running joke. It’s a widely debated topic for who killed him, and a lot of us first suspected it to be Lanfear.

 

Oh, one more thing I’d appreciate clarification on Lanfear dear. Why are you calling Hamila a He in post #57. I realize of course you claim to have mistakenly put Be'lal's name in that post; but if this were a genuine mistake as you claim, why also mix up the gender of the one you were targeting? One might assume this could be a Freudian mistake due to the fact that you and Hamila are on a team?

Another point I noticed during my re-read was the time at which Osangar decided to introduce his idea concerning votes & the Avatar. I bring this up because my intuition is claiming that this might be a distraction technique of sorts. Notice that the idea is brought forward after the votes have escalated on Lanfear, that her first post is agree with the idea in a way that pushes this issue to the forefront of the game, and then is coinciding with her reveal.

 

I agree with the first sentence of your statement. I also agree that it appears Osangar/Lanfear appear to be working together right there. It started deflecting votes away from Lanfear, on top of her reveal and distracted a lot of people away from the issue at hand and her suspicious reveal to start thinking about the Avatar when we shouldn't really be drawing a lot of attention to anything concerning the Avatar.

 

 

On the contrary, I think the mafia's goal is to win normally. The more we rolefish or second guess the game mechanics, the more trouble we can find ourselves in. My humble opinion is to play this game as any other mafia game, and address issues as they come up. The more "instruction" we give the town on how to hide/vote for/not vote for/interact with the Avatar, the more likely a slip-up is to be made.

 

Aside from the part of what the Mafia's goal is, I agree with the above statements' sentiment. To add further to this notion, the more we plan amongst ourselves in the open about how to keep the Avatar hidden, the easier it will be for the Fire nation to spot the pattern. Now, if we have a group of Villagers who can communicate between themselves, please by all means devise a plan to help keep the Avatar alive. I feel that any benefit gained from discussing this on the game thread is countered by the fact that the fire nation knows our plan.

 

 

Yes, let's really start playing. I dislike drive by voting as much as I dislike Lanfear's too obvious attempt at cozying up to me. It's rather a shame SOMEONE bought into that overused ploy.

 

Balthamel, Rahvin, the redundancy of those stances rather irks me. Every time I see those regurgitated ideals, I see them proven wrong. The town's only defense is working together. Keeping secrets means we aren't doing that. Is it worse to say it and fix it or not say it and have it used against us because we weren't prepared? Redundant again to suggest that we shouldn't worry over mechanics. It's not like engine of a car matters; it doesn't make the thing go or anything.

 

In point of fact, one might say that the only thing the town has to build on is mechanics and teamwork. It takes time to get the rest, and without a base...

 

No, I don't agree with the shoot from the hip stance since it keeps you on your heels instead of your toes. I'd rather not fall.

 

Rahvin, I don't suggest directing the actions toward the Avatar. I suggested acting normally to prevent arousing suspicions. Aka don't avoid voting for him in the hopes of snagging someone who does because once you have your cards are all laid out.

 

Balthamel, you got me. You know me, I see. *Shrug* Can you find an actual problem with my idea, or are all of your excuses just pedantic? You already know the counter for the only real problem you state is to avoid trusting me just because I handed out useful advice. 'Tis expected and anything else would be questionable. Accepting good advice, on the other hand, is not.

 

*raises eyebrows* See now I must confess that you are becoming much more suspicious by the minute. I would like clarification on your first sentence if you wouldn't mind, because I could swear that sounds almost like an attempt at distancing ones self. I do find it odd that you are only acting on it now though, her "obvious" attempt to cozy up to you. Why not say something when she did it, why only now after someone has pointed it out?

 

Your continued obsession with actions involving the Avatar is suspicious. The only people in this game who are concerned with the actions & where about of the Avatar are, in fact, the Fire Nation. I can think of one character who was a bit overly obsessed with the Avatar, so this is what gives me pause; while he turned out to be good in the end, one cannot deny he's intentions where that of an enemy for all but the last half of Season 3.

 

Also, you contradict yourself with this portion of your post

 

"I don't suggest directing the actions toward the Avatar. I suggested acting normally to prevent arousing suspicions."

 

In actuality you are attempting to direct actions towards the Avatar by suggesting we decide how we will vote concerning the Avatar and those who vote for him. By doing this, it does prevent us from playing normally.

 

*chuckles* Pedantic? Surely not, a better word might be cautious. I never said that I intended to ignore your advice; on the contrary I stated that it was good advice to keep in the back of ones mind. I am, however, wary of what strings might be attached to this advice you so freely give; we Forsaken are not known for our generosity and, after all, every thing we do comes with a price.

 

*yawns and stretches* I do become bored with a rounded conversation, it leaves such a stale taste on the tongue. Might I implore the rest of the players to voice their opinions on the topic so we can move on to more important issues. This is rather distracting and deters part of my intellect from shifting out scum.

 

 

 

*smiles fondly* Ah yes, I too have been enjoying "playing" the role of my alternate account; I had deduced as much, but wanted clarification more for your benefit than mine own. Admittedly, it does set me at ease to know there is no such Post Restriction on Day 1 which forces users to post as if they are entertaining impotent mortals on that "As the Forsaken" mockery. *shakes head* Such petty insolence, really. I'm told they find it humorous as well; let them have their fun though, they will learn the error of their ways soon enough.

 

 

However, this doesn't discount the defensiveness of your posts towards those who voted for you. Something to note, but I'm more comfortable with my vote where it is for now.

 

((OOC: I love the "Ask the Forsaken" When's it coming back?))

 

I agree with the Sentiment of both Rahvin and Balthamel in the first part of the quotes.

 

I also agree that it looks like Osangar is trying to distance himself from Lanfear, maybe because Balthamel was onto them?

 

I also agree with the very last sentence. Lanfear still acted super defensive super early in the voting, and with all the other stuff I've quoted my vote stays on Lanfear because I'm just not buying what she's selling.

 

I can't believe I actually agreed with some of you guys *looks at each of them* but don't mistake that for me trusting any of you.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

[iNSERT USUAL "ANTI-DAY ONE" BANTER HERE]

 

And now that I'm over being upset at having no art of me on the internet, I'll VOTE BALTHAMEL for needing that creepy mask. Skin lotion, hun. It does wonders.

 

No reply to me? I'm sad. It's like you're trying to avoid confrontation, hun.

 

Is no reply not a reply in itself? *smirk*

 

VOTE: CYNDANE

 

I never liked you. The sooner you're gone, the better for all of us.

 

Ha. Says the first to fall to the untrained al'Thor. Such weight your words carry.

 

-

 

Well, that does it for my personal replies. Now onto the recent events that actually matter.

 

First, Lanfear's "reveal" is quite disconcerting. It places us in a difficult position we don't need on Day 1. On the one hand, she could be telling the truth. This could pose a problem, for the mafia could target her, attempting to eliminate the threat, forcing the healer to choose between the Avatar and Lanfear. You see where I'm going with this?

 

But she could be lying. It is a plausible role for this game. But also an easy one to make up if it doesn't exist. A risk to Lanfear if someone counterclaims, which only will add to the problems we don't need on Day 1.

 

At this point, I'm leaning toward it being false, just based on the fact that it does us more damage than good this early. But, I am reluctant to jump on her simply for the possibility that she could be telling the truth. Once again, this is a problem we don't need now. (Dead horse: meet stick.)

 

Second, Osangar. I understand the desire to set some kind of plan, but as has been pointed out, such a venture is futile. The only purpose I see in the conversation is bait. Or perhaps, distraction, as also stated before. As it is, Osangar does himself no favors, nor the rest of us any favors by bringing it up. It only serves the mafia, and so, I shant touch it, save to announce Osangar as suspect.

[Osangar-Mafia]

To add further to this notion, the more we plan amongst ourselves in the open about how to keep the Avatar hidden,

My intention has been stated, and it wasn’t to turn this into a debate but to point out the flaws in planning only to vote those who vote the avatar. It will fail because of its shortsightedness. The end. Despite you feeling the benefit was outweighed by the Fire Nation knowing the plan, I felt that the loss of the Avatar from such a plan was a worse prospect. We are here to protect him, right?

*raises eyebrows* See now I must confess that you are becoming much more suspicious by the minute. I would like clarification on your first sentence if you wouldn't mind, because I could swear that sounds almost like an attempt at distancing ones self. I do find it odd that you are only acting on it now though, her "obvious" attempt to cozy up to you. Why not say something when she did it, why only now after someone has pointed it out?

I felt it wasn’t worth pointing out the obvious until you actually bought the crap. Oh, and I highly doubt, “Let’s really start playing,” needs more clarification, so let's stick with the first part of my answer.

 

The only people in this game who are concerned with the actions & where about of the Avatar are, in fact, the Fire Nation.

Not true. The town must be concerned as well since it’s a win condition and the avatar is fully capable of getting himself NK’d through his own actions.

 

Also, you contradict yourself with this portion of your post

 

"I don't suggest directing the actions toward the Avatar. I suggested acting normally to prevent arousing suspicions."

 

In actuality you are attempting to direct actions towards the Avatar by suggesting we decide how we will vote concerning the Avatar and those who vote for him. By doing this, it does prevent us from playing normally.

Now you are being silly. It was obvious that I wasn’t trying to say, “We need 3 people on the avatar today and 2 more tomorrow. Don’t forget.” In fact, I think I made that clear by saying if the avatar does something vote worthy and we ignore it, the mafia will probably pick up on it. Waaaaay back in that first post. Do you disagree with that sentiment?

I am, however, wary of what strings might be attached to this advice you so freely give;

Well, I don’t see any other than the possibility of missing someone who would otherwise have been caught. It’s highly regrettable, but give the alternative of a dead avatar… Besides, that’s what the finder is for, right?

 

In your use of pretty vocab words, don't forget to use them correctly. In no way is the bold above redundant. Balthy was continuing your talk of mechanics - I was going in the opposite direction. Last I checked, that did not qualify as redundant. Of course, the definition could have changed since I was last in this world. ^_^

I used it in regards to multiple games, not just this one. ;) It is a common enough stance. Does that fit the definition correctly? (Whoot for another example of shortsightedness!!)

 

he doesn't want to say anything that might put him in a bad position.

Best to not play at all and to never speak, at that.

 

Like she's willing to jump on a Mesaana bandwagon if there is one, just because she didn't like her answer as to why she was voting for her,

Self preservation can be performed by any player. It’s not interesting. She’s squeamish about being halfway to dead, so why wouldn’t she invite another bandwagon? That was a non-event compared to her, umm, reveal.

 

She could be telling the truth, or she could just be scum wanting to save her behind by claiming a role that could potentially be important

Yeah, I’m halfway through season 3. I can’t think of a character, other than the avatar, who has multiple powers. I’m disinclined to believe a jack-of-all trades reveal, at this point.

 

distracted a lot of people away from the issue at hand

Define a lot. 3, maybe 5… out of 22. Yeah, not a lot.

 

It started deflecting votes away from Lanfear

Over crediting me. I’d have to say her reveal did that considering voting a revealed player is so unpopular.

 

This could pose a problem, for the mafia could target her, attempting to eliminate the threat, forcing the healer to choose between the Avatar and Lanfear. You see where I'm going with this?

No because there is no choice there. The avatar must be protected. Unless I missed something?

 

As it is, Osangar does himself no favors, nor the rest of us any favors by bringing it up. It only serves the mafia,

Logical disconnect again. It does NOT serve the mafia to say that if we do not vote the avatar, we will give him away, so let’s make sure we do have at least some real votes on the avatar here and there to avoid this. Without that last part, you might be right. With it, you are just plain foolish.

vote: CYNDANE for outright, obstinate foolishness. Or we could call it a difference of opinion. Whatever.

[Kivam]

Double post from Osangar deleted.

[Lanfear-Mafia]

A couple of thoughts from your favorite Forsaken:

 

1) When Lanfear said that Lanfear didn't want to reveal "so early," Lanfear meant early in the game, not early in the Day.

 

2) The Healer should not heal Lanfear. Lanfear explained this once, and now Lanfear is explaining it again. Lanfear is not claiming a super duper important role. Lanfear does not want to distract the Healer's attention. So, Lanfear is now suspicious of Cyndane for spinning Lanfear's reveal to be something that it's not and for trying to distract or confuse the Healer.

 

 

Hugs and kisses,

Lanfear

 

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

I understood what you meant Lanfear, doesn't make it any less suspect to me.

 

my vote will stand for now.

[Guest Halima-Mafia]

sorry I've been away, just catching up

[Guest Halima-Mafia]

I think Lanfear's mafia or serial killer. She gets super defensive at the slightest pressure, comes out with a silly roleclaim, and she seems to be casting suspicions around like candy to try and get attention off her. (If she followed these suspicions up a little more I'd accept it as normal mafia play but she doesn't - not to my satisfaction.)

 

Why is her roleclaim silly, you might ask? The jack of all trades is a great claim for mafia as not only can they seem to replicate all of the abilities but they can avoid being counterclaimed by the real cop, doc, vig, etc. It's also so much less common than those three roles and yet not uncommon to have two JOATs in the same game that you can avoid being counterclained by another JOAT. Not to mention the appeal to emotion - "healer, don't bother with me tonight!" - which kind of caps it off for me.

 

I think she's our best lead today.

 

UNOVTE

 

VOTE: LANFEAR

 

 

This quote makes me wonder if Mesaana was busing Lanfear. Notice how she's not doing anything else of use, and also setting up the ability to lurk until deadline.... shame there's no deadline, really. Screams mafia to me.

 

For now your "reveal" has made enough sense for me not keep my vote on you

 

UNVOTE

 

What should I do now... I cant decide who to vote for so ill leave it but ill be back before the deadline (Well ill almost certainly be back)

[Guest Halima-Mafia]

That said, it bugs me that Osan'gar doesn't seem to be accusing Cyndane of being mafia, merely of being foolish and stubborn or having a different opinion. Minor point though.

[Balthamel-Mafia]

UNVOTE VOTE: LANFEAR

 

Osangar, with that last post you have severely shot up on my list of suspects; however, in the hopes of progressing this game forward beyond Day 1, I am willing to cast my vote for Lanfear.

 

At this point, her alignment will garner us the most information.

 

I will address one issue from your post though Osangar. What I wanted clarified is what exactly you meant by "falling for an overused ploy"? This statement and the hostility behind it perplexed me greatly.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

2) The Healer should not heal Lanfear. Lanfear explained this once, and now Lanfear is explaining it again. Lanfear is not claiming a super duper important role. Lanfear does not want to distract the Healer's attention. So, Lanfear is now suspicious of Cyndane for spinning Lanfear's reveal to be something that it's not and for trying to distract or confuse the Healer.

 

I guess it's only fair you suspect me for suspecting you. You've not convinced me, though.

 

This could pose a problem, for the mafia could target her, attempting to eliminate the threat, forcing the healer to choose between the Avatar and Lanfear. You see where I'm going with this?

No because there is no choice there. The avatar must be protected. Unless I missed something?

 

Yes, you obviously did. That's part of the "if she's telling the truth". If so, we could lose powerful role early. Like I said though, I'm thinking it's false.

 

As it is, Osangar does himself no favors, nor the rest of us any favors by bringing it up. It only serves the mafia,

Logical disconnect again. It does NOT serve the mafia to say that if we do not vote the avatar, we will give him away, so let’s make sure we do have at least some real votes on the avatar here and there to avoid this. Without that last part, you might be right. With it, you are just plain foolish.

vote: CYNDANE for outright, obstinate foolishness. Or we could call it a difference of opinion. Whatever.

 

My my, we get quite defensive, don't we? Lowering ourselves to personal insults already?

 

You're the only one so attatched to this...unhelpful debate. All townies should have already thought about their actions concerning the Avatar. Discussing them in-game serves no purpose unless it is bait or distraction.

 

Bait for who, though? Food for thought.

[Osangar-Mafia]

@ Halima: Can anyone really claim to know a mafia on day one? Pure luck if you do. For now, I'd rather go after someone making foolish statements. The healer might be distracted to Lanfear "if" she's truthful my behind! Only a healer who missed who the avatar is and how he must be protected would do that. I digress... I'd rather vote that than someone I see as having a possibility of just maybe being truthful. It definately wasn't the role that gives me pause, but the thing about alignments not matching nations. Think about Zuko and Iro and the masters who trained Sokka and Xio. And though I can't say for certain, I'd bet Zuko's mother.

 

@Cyndane: Read the above then know, foolish was not aimed at your person but your comments. And that they most certainly were. No role is worth the game, no matter how powerful. I suppose I should caveat with a solo win role.

 

@Balthamel: See you on the other side?

 

Oh, and before I forget. It wasn't hostility; it's called sarcasm. I apparently use the tones too much for people. :D

 

"Over used ploy"- I latch onto someone who is making sense while I see me going down (or I see someone going down latch onto someone who is making sense) in an effort to lend myself (destroy someone else's) credibility. Problem is (and often turns out to be- I'd call it 50%ish) the latched has no real connection with the latcher. It was merely convenience too often.

 

Bait for who, though?

Must resist urge to reveal. Wouldn't you like to know? Anyone who has the correct pieces to the puzzle could figure it out. Of course, knowing who has the pieces... Now, that's the fun part. ;)

 

(Gosh, taunting people is fun.)

 

 

 

(*rolls eyes* That's playful banter before you take offense again.)

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Actually there is one role that is worth the game, but I grow tired of this and must now retire for sleep.

[Osangar-Mafia]

Which role is equal to that of the avatar? And by what reasoning? Even the finder/healer should be lost when compared with the loss of the avatar. Any stab in the dark might hit the avatar, so regardless of suspicions roused or settled or mia play style, that's who I'd heal at the cost of every other player on the board.

[Asmodean-Mafia]

well these are all good accusations. but the real reason i havent defended myself from lanfear is because im really busy with school and im not all to worried about the lies or naivety of lanfear. so i will keep my vote. when is day going to end kivam. also i do not sing gleeman songs.

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Ok so i fully missed the no deadline thing. I guess I wont have a problem then and ive got a pretty free weekend so I wont be a lurker like some of you seemed to think i was aiming at. I was also "busying" Lanfear because after my vote she was online and kept replying and i felt the need to repy. In hindsight that wasnt the smartest idea but i did it.

I also agree that I cant think of any characters that would have the Jack-of-all trades role in a game.

So that leaves me to vote.

 

Now Lanfear had five on her when I jumped on. That makes 6. So only 5 were needed for the lynch. Bal jumped in and only 4 votes left. Thats when Lanfear revealed. I dont know if there is a way to check who was online at that point but with only 4 votes left surely a mafia team could get a fairly easy lynch of a power role at that point (if Lanfear is telling the truth)

This leads me to think that there was more then one mafia on the bandwagon at that point. As to who im working on that but I think its one of these people;

Belal, Moghedien, ShaidarHaran, Moridin, Asmodean,

out of those Belal and Moridin stand out the most to me. Belal seems to be subtley encouraging the lynch while Mordin just watched.

 

This all hinges on the fact that Lanfear is telling the truth. So for today after her reveal im giving her the benifit of the doubt.

 

VOTE BELAL

 

(did that make sense?)

[Taim-Mafia]

Well, Ive been following this through, Lanfear is a possibility but without more to go on Its a big risk with the possible loss of a useful role. Ill store that for later consideration.

Its always difficult to work out mafia on day 1 without some slip up by them and we do need information from a lynch. I know how to work out somethings from a non-lynch too but thats not an option with no deadline so we do have to work out a lynch with what we have so far.

 

UNVOTE

 

My heckles are up and pointing towards Asmo and Lanfear at the moment. Like ive said above its a risk going for Lanfear but I still cant decide if your role reveal is genuine or a tactic to push votes away from you. With whats been said so far I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt to you for now so that leaves me with -

 

VOTE ASMODEAN

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

In your use of pretty vocab words, don't forget to use them correctly. In no way is the bold above redundant. Balthy was continuing your talk of mechanics - I was going in the opposite direction. Last I checked, that did not qualify as redundant. Of course, the definition could have changed since I was last in this world. ^_^

I used it in regards to multiple games, not just this one. ;) It is a common enough stance. Does that fit the definition correctly? (Whoot for another example of shortsightedness!!)

 

Why would we care about 'multiple games'? We are playing this one. Your comment made no sense to this game. And shortsightedness? If by shortsightedness, you mean paying attention to the game we are playing and not other arbitrary games that have zero impact on this game, then I agree with you. If you don't mean that, then again you're just taking words and shoving them into sentences they don't belong in.

 

 

well these are all good accusations. but the real reason i havent defended myself from lanfear is because im really busy with school and im not all to worried about the lies or naivety of lanfear. so i will keep my vote. when is day going to end kivam. also i do not sing gleeman songs.

 

Ugh. For the love of the Great Lord: Read. The. Rules.

 

VOTE: ASMODEAN

 

Yes, that vote is because you're not paying attention. Players that don't pay attention in a game like this are going to get the town killed.

[Red2111]

Vote Count

 

Halima (1) - Ishamael

Lanfear (7) - Belal, Moghedien, ShaidarHaran, Moridin, Asmodean, Halima, Balthamel

Moridin (1) - Semirhage

Osangar (1) - Dashiva

Asmodean (5) - Lanfear, Sammael, Mordeth, Taim, Rahvin

Belal (1) - Mesaana

 

11 to lynch

[Kivam]

@ Halima: Can anyone really claim to know a mafia on day one? Pure luck if you do. For now, I'd rather go after someone making foolish statements. The healer might be distracted to Lanfear "if" she's truthful my behind! Only a healer who missed who the avatar is and how he must be protected would do that. I digress... I'd rather vote that than someone I see as having a possibility of just maybe being truthful. It definately wasn't the role that gives me pause, but the thing about alignments not matching nations. Think about Zuko and Iro and the masters who trained Sokka and Xio. And though I can't say for certain, I'd bet Zuko's mother.

 

Just a quick reminder - knowing or not knowing the show will provide no help in this game.

[Ishamael-Mafia]

Ishamael would like to take this moment that he actually has to UNVOTE, VOTE LANFEAR

 

And apologizes for his previous silence. He has spent way to much time at work for his own sanity.

[Kivam]

Vote Count

 

Lanfear (8) - Belal, Moghedien, ShaidarHaran, Moridin, Asmodean, Halima, Balthamel, Ishamael

Moridin (1) - Semirhage

Osangar (1) - Dashiva

Asmodean (5) - Lanfear, Sammael, Mordeth, Taim, Rahvin

Belal (1) - Mesaana

 

11 to lynch

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Which role is equal to that of the avatar? And by what reasoning? Even the finder/healer should be lost when compared with the loss of the avatar. Any stab in the dark might hit the avatar, so regardless of suspicions roused or settled or mia play style, that's who I'd heal at the cost of every other player on the board.

 

Wow. We are obviously opperating on completely different channels. Either that, or you're trying to Gode me. (sorry for the pun, couldn't help it.)

 

I meant the Avatar.

 

Let me try to clarify for you what I said (which has been said by others): Talking about any kind of strategy in relation to the Avatar does not aid us, the town, in any way, as the mafia are among us. The only reason I find you suspect is because you are not letting the Avatar Conversation drop. Like I am now. If you wish to continue this banter about the Avatar with me, prepare to be ignored, because as I said before, I'm not touching it.

 

If that is a foolish stance to you, then I find that foolish on your part.

 

And if it's any consolation, I've decided for the moment you are likely not scum.

 

As much as I dislike jumping on an obvious bandwagon, Lanfear is the most suspect to me for reasons I stated before. VOTE LANFEAR

[amegakure]

wow. what proof do any of you have to accuse me of being mafia. just because i forgot the rules is a lame reason to vote for me or a nice cover for a real mafia member to try and get a townie killed.

[Asmodean-Mafia]

ugh i hate this double account thing