Cuendillar (Book and Q&A Spoilers)

[ed2funy]

I would go with erasing the previous action...

She does it fast, and if someone BF-ed her, she would 'never have woven the weave'.

 

That is when the cuendillar gets BFed directly....

I am pretty sure if the maker is BFed right after, it would go back to iron.

 

EDIT NEW: what he said...

[thewalrus777]

INCONCEIVABLE!

[ed2funy]

AHHHHH!!!!

Not that word.....Balefire that word!!!!

[clu7ch]

/emote:with his secret mini-ck that no-one knew about:

 

PAHCHOOOOOOOOM

 

done.

[thewalrus777]

have you built up a tolerance to Iocaine powder? I have...

[ed2funy]

ohgodohgodohgodohgod!!!!

 

*huddles in corner and cries*

[clu7ch]

wtf is gaidalcaine powder?

[ed2funy]

lmfao.....

 

it is the worst...

it makes you ugly..

then you die ugly...

[thewalrus777]

however you get to really kick ass swords with it! ;D

[ed2funy]

lmao....

True....

you might be able to take someone out with it...

 

Hey, will Gaidal be born Arafellin...They have two back-swords right?

[thewalrus777]

who knows, with RJ no one can tell.

[ed2funy]

true....

just an idea.

[thewalrus777]

i guess Arafellin could be as good a guess as any. They are Borderlanders. They are naturally trained to fight with swords and fight evil, basically from when they are born. I could see it happening.

[clu7ch]

in all seriousness, Cuendillar is near invulnerable, but the seals are destroyed around great Ta'Verenist moments, EoTW, or in Falme, Maybe they are so rigid in this world that they appear brittle to the pattern, and when the pattern is forced to shift, the cueundillar is shattered?

[ed2funy]

Well, I say Arafellin specifically cause they wear their swords like that.....

 

I am too tired to follow that Clu7ch....rephrase....plz...:)

[clu7ch]

rofl dont know if i can :D i was tired when i wrote it.

 

Mmmkay. ok so given what we know of Cuendillar's indestructive properties, um, ignore that.

 

Pretend that making something cuendillar actually causes it to be more brittle to the pattern, not necessarily to the real world however. When Rand, in his awesomeness, fought at the Eye, and at Falme, the pattern sort of was like a n00b driver mastering a manual transmission, and ground the gears, thus breaking the bonds that make cuendillar what it is.

[thewalrus777]

bravo sir! excellent post! very thought provoking. I'd been thinking about that as well. Heartstone doesn't just give way with age. It's supposed to be permanent. I'd have to believe along those same lines, but adding that it's also what's holding back the DO from officially touching the world. Him trying to get out would definitely put some damage on those seals. He can destroy heartstone i would imagine, knowing he is no human, but an extreme, powerful being, the exact opposite of The Creator.  

[ed2funy]

I am going to pretend I at least half understood that and say no.

 

:P

 

So, it is stronger physically, but not patternly?

Makes no sense sir...

 

EDIT NEW: I think I get it a little but more now...

:D

[thewalrus777]

I think it is the fact the Seals are actually part of the pattern that keeps the DO on the down low. Ta'veren being major weaves in the pattern and having their events take action around those seals puts an incredible strain on them. And i would say if those events involved Rand, those seals wouldn't just weaken, they would flat out just break. just an opinion.

[ed2funy]

a rather good one sir.

[thewalrus777]

sometimes during my rants, a flash of some sort of reasoning comes to light...sometimes.

[ed2funy]

lmao....

 

look at luckers review thingy...

I was laughing so hard....

it is horrible......

my post....you'll know....

 

it is bad. :)

[Teslan]

 

The seals were destroyed by the Dark One under the same premise as how the True Power destroyed cuendillar--it may even be that the Dark One used True Power to do it (though that is not certain based on Brandon's RAFO's on the question of the Dark One and True Power).

 

Brandon said there was another way to destroy cuendillar in addition to that method.

 

It does seem likely that since the Dark One is the source of the True Power -> it is just another instance of TP destroying Cuendillar.

[Luckers]

The Dark One IS the source of the True Power, there is just some question as to whether he channels it himself due to RAFO's.

 

The significance though is that the True Power succeeded in destroying cuendillar because it is damaging to the pattern--irrespective of whether the Dark One channels the True Power, the same answer is applicable to him. Brandon spoke of there being ANOTHER way to destroy cuendillar beyond this 'Pattern-destructing' influence of things related to the Dark One.

[ed2funy]

A weave that unweaves or Fain is all we have right now.

 

:D