Mad Hatter Mafia Tea Party - GAME OVER-Page 94

[Lanfear-Mafia]

don't lynch a known partygoer, a revealed role-less party goer by our Role Thief,

who said himself that it's an aspect of his evil role that he appears innocent. you have said enough that we can't be certain what side you are on. maybe if you played a little... less eccentric we would know which were lies and which was truth.

 

I hope that you are evil, and we have our first, if not, well that is sad

i still think the evils are the solos, so i would say third? or was osan'gar a solo? i don't remember...

 

 

loki is about to end the day. we need to take someone or it's a random.

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

Quite a change of tone, Moridin, don't you think?

 

*shakes head and wnaders off*

 

Quite a change for Moggy, yes. Is that what you're talking about?

 

Shadar has brought up an excellent point with the Godfather role.

 

Rahvin has been very keen on showing everybody a "screen shot" of his welcome PM from Loki - The one that names him a partygoer. And I again will point out that anything can be faked. I have seen some lovely photos of Bigfoot, aliens landing at the White House, you get my point.

 

So let's look at possibilities:

 

How about he started as roleless, but then was recruited. This is exactly how Loki won a game a short time back. And it would explain a partygoer screen shot.

 

Or, if he did fake it, and please don't even try to tell me that this can't be done - he is rather adept at computer skills - he could easily be a symp.

 

Or, what makes more sense, a Godfather, who appears as innocent on findings anyway.

 

My point is this, we will not have any real proof of anything until the game is over. So unitl then, all we can do is try to spot people using mafia techniques, and right now, Rahvin is by far the most obvious choice.

 

 

[Guest Semirhage-Mafia]

Quite a change of tone, Moridin, don't you think?

 

*shakes head and wnaders off*

 

Quite a change for Moggy, yes. Is that what you're talking about?

lol..no..you.

 

 

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Wait a minute.....now BIGFOOT?  :D  Mordin, I still believe you are innocent, but you take the cake as far as a mafia symp goes. Next, you are gonna start saying that Rahvin is really BAT BOY!

 

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Nothing I have posted or done have been to confuse anyone.  Moridin wants me to die so bad that he is now using the Weekly World News as a basis for his arguments.  Please, if I must die to prove the truth, then so be it.  Once I am gone, please read the FACTS not the rants.  You may not have liked my techniques but you gotta admit, for a newbie player in a veteran's world, I held my own.

 

Look at Mesaana's posts....all of them.  She is the role thief and she has reads on a lot of people.  Don't let Moridin and Lanny bully you into being their pawns.  Moridin is just upset that even the great Dread Pirate is confused as hell and not in control of the game.

 

Besides, if I had some kind of compulsion, like the one that was on me at the beginning of the game, I would have used it on Lanny.  Moridin, please stop confusing everyone and start dealing with facts.  Moggy made up her own mind and has her own reasons for switching her votes. 

 

[Belal-Mafia]

Ok, I'm gonna vote [glow=brown,2,300]Rahvin[/glow]

 

Basically, I think the others here have alot better logic in any of their reasonings than you Rahvin, your sounds more.... desperate in a way....

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Guys, do you always mock a newbie for trying to hold his own against the veterans?  What harm have I actually done here?  How more confusing have I made this game than it already is?  What have I done that Moridin and Lanny haven't done also, yet receive absolutely no grief for? 

 

I didn't reveal anything that Mesaana and Semirhage haven't already revealed.  Moridin is just upset that the three most important non-mafia roles in this game believe me and are not following him like sheep.

 

The Coroner - Semirhage:  Revealed that Osan'Gar was the Deuce of Clubs and his alignment was TO THE QUEEN

 

The Role Thief - Mesaana: Grendel and Dashiva are also CARDS TO THE QUEEN.

 

The Doubler - Aran'Gar: Doubles the actions of any player. 

 

Since you all still seem fit to lynch me, then I will ask you all to do this.  After I am dead, look hard at the facts before you cast your next vote.  Lynch someone because they are mafia, not because you don't like how they play the game.  Don't be bullied into following someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Lanfear-Mafia]

Don't be bullied into following someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.

we don't know if you know what you are talking about because you have lied too many times.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

I have lied twice, Lanny....and both times to folks I suspected as Mafia in an attempt to gain info.

 

Who is the true Mafia symp here?  What innocent have I gotten killed?

 

Moridin, he lead a lynch on Kivam/Taim who turned out to be an innocent party goer, yet no one says anything about that?  He and Lanny continue to not leave me alone, even admitting that they want me out even knowing that I am a party goer. 

 

You may not like my play style, but that is still no reason to ignore the facts that others have presented.

 

So, Pogo Sticks await my death....and when it is revealed that I am an innocent party goer, what then?  What will that prove? I know it seems to make sense to trust the great and all knowing DPR because he is supposed to be a savant at these games....but make up your own minds.

 

I ask again....what harm have I done?  The three most important innocent roles in this game believe me.  Why don't you?

[Guest Sammael-Mafia]

What have I done that Moridin and Lanny haven't done also, yet receive absolutely no grief for?

If you had even read just mine and Shadar's previous posts, you would have your answer.

 

If you're scum, then you have really done a great job and if you're not then you need to start paying attention to what others tell you, even when it doesn't go your way.

 

I know it seems to make sense to trust the great and all knowing DPR because he is supposed to be a savant at these games....but make up your own minds.

Implying that despite our long, argumented posts, we're just cattle blindly following a leader just proves how deaf you are.

Now playing the poor noob despised by mean old-vets will get you nowhere, we've all been noobs at some point and were listened to when we made sense, some of us still are.

 

Moridin, he lead a lynch on Kivam/Taim who turned out to be an innocent party goer, yet no one says anything about that?

  Yes, it wasn't a good move but it was Day 1 and I was the first one vote to get him lynched.

Then he survived it, and the one after that too.

 

I ask again....what harm have I done?  The three most important innocent roles in this game believe me.  Why don't you?

And do they believe you b/c you are their friend or b/c of a secret list of killer arguments that I have yet to read?

And I wouldn't boast about making them revealing if I were you, it just made the "three most important innocent roles" mafia targets.

You still don't see what you could have possibly done wrong?

 

Again, congrats if you're scum.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

In a normal mafia game, yes keeping your role a secret works....but in this craziness, we need to post the facts here for all to see.  All these pms and back talk give way to to much potential to lie, heck I am not innocent of that.  The only way to get what is TRUE is to post it for everyone to see.

 

I mean, we are all confused and the only way we can not be confused is for everyone to come forward.  Otherwise, we are all sitting ducks for the mafia....or mafias. 

 

So, again...in one paragraph or less.....how have I gotten anyone killed?  If it is so simple, it wont be hard for you to post again.

[loki redfern]

Ok, thats more then enought of  that.

 

Final Vote Count

 

[glow=brown,2,300] Rahvin (8.) - [/glow] Moridin, Shadar Haran, Graendal, Lanfear, Sammael, Demandred, Be'lal

[glow=brown,2,300] Graendal (6) - [/glow] Rahvin, Messaana, Aran'gar, Semirhage, Moghedien

[glow=brown,2,300] Balthamel (1) - [/glow] Balthamel

[glow=brown,2,300] Dashiva (1) - [/glow] Dashiva

 

with 15 alive it takes 9 to lynch

 

[glow=brown,2,300]Brown Glowed Votes only[/glow]

 

Deadline for Day Five is NOW

 

 

i'll role the dice when i get home. ciao for now

 

(oh its night btw, you can start sending night actions. night will end (promtly this time) at saturday 19:00 BST

[Alys Kinch]

kat/alys says:

did mordeth's vote not count?

kat/alys says:

http://forums.dragonmount.com/index.php/topic,32213.msg863586.html#msg863586

"Don't lick me, I'm not a window" says:

the posted vote count is correct

kat/alys says:

ok?

"Don't lick me, I'm not a window" says:

go look at the post that opened the day

[loki redfern]

The posted vote count is correct. as are all others in the game (ok maybe some not first time, but eventually :P )

[Alys Kinch]

also, Graendal   (6) -    

  Rahvin, Messaana, Aran'gar, Semirhage, Moghedien  

   

 

 

 

err... sorry about posting out of account.

[loki redfern]

you will be >:( *bites*

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

*crosses fingers, toes, and anything else that can....while rubbing a rabbit's foot with a four leaf clover*

 

C'mon 5!!!!  JOHNNY 5 keeps us alive!!!

[Graendal-Mafia]

Thanks for the anima Mynd!

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

{out of character: you're welcome *huggs*}

 

GRAENDAL!! I don't know what kind of trick you are up to, but somehow you have convinced these people to vote me instead of your mafia butt!!!  Prepare to be lynched!  >:(

 

{I love how the eyes flutter!}

[Guest Sammael-Mafia]

So, again...in one paragraph or less.....how have I gotten anyone killed?

1 Healer, 3 people to protect, do the math, one of them is bound to die.

 

It's all I'll add.

[Guest nephitess]

Why is are the dice being rolled... there is a majority vote. OR do we HAVE to have 9 votes?

[GoodGrief]

[glow=red,2,300]FREAKING INACTIVES!! [/glow]

 

*sets some goats on fire and herds them through Dash and Balth's bedrooms*

 

[move]WAKE UP!!    WAKE UP!!    WAKE UP!!    WAKE UP!!    WAKE UP!!    WAKE UP!![/move]

[Arangar-Mafia]

Why is are the dice being rolled... there is a majority vote. OR do we HAVE to have 9 votes?

 

We HAVE to have 9 votes.  Therefore the die....dum dum DUM...

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

I work for a week and I come back to all this? sheesh. But okay here;s what I know about others.

 

Myself - I'm the role thief, my alignment is partygoer.

My Proof:

Welcome to Mad Hatter Mafia, but remember believe less than none of what you hear and only a quarter of what you see. Oh and watch out for the owls.

 

Your role is Locke Lamora, hustler and confidence trickster extraordinaire , so good you can con grift someone out of there role for the day.  Submit a name at the beginning of each day to steal somebody’s role for the next day and night phase

 

Your alignment is Partygoer

 

Graendal - not sure what to call it, but it brought up the question of the Queen.

Congratulations, you successfully tricked Graendal out of her role!

 

though disgiused as Graendal, you find yourself in a bit more trouble than you'd like, its seems her fate depends upon another;

 

During the next Day and nigth phase, if The Queen dies, you will die too!

 

Taim was Innocent as he said he was

Congratulations, you successfully tricked Graendal out of her role!

 

though disgiused as Graendal, you find yourself in a bit more trouble than you'd like, its seems her fate depends upon another;

 

During the next Day and nigth phase, if The Queen dies, you will die too!

 

I also tried to take Rahvin's role, but he had nothing to take

oh what to steal, shall i be a robin hood today? no it seems not, as you take from those who have nothing to steal.

 

You have stolen the role of: rolelessness

 

The last one I took from was the dear Lanfear.

Sucess!, you managed to lift Lanfears role, she was an Unrequited Lover, If Orsino is threated with death, because of your love for him you shall jump in to save him. At the cost of your own life (i.e. if he gets lynched, or night killed its you who dies)

 

I took something else from her, but I don't know what to use it for, or if I still can...I've been away for bit so a little unsure, but I think I still can. So I will. but it was the vial that would allow me to kill one person, but there's a catch to it I think.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Moggy...I think something got lost in translation with your Avy.  Try this one and see if it works better.

 

 

Oh, and die all you Mafia Scum!!!  >:(

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Ok, I'm gonna vote [glow=brown,2,300]Rahvin[/glow]

 

Basically, I think the others here have alot better logic in any of their reasonings than you Rahvin, your sounds more.... desperate in a way....

If is sounded so desperate why didn't you ignore it and go with the more reasonable logical ones?

 

My point is this, we will not have any real proof of anything until the game is over. So unitl then, all we can do is try to spot people using mafia techniques, and right now, Rahvin is by far the most obvious choice.

Suspicion your only way of going right now Moridin? Why not use some of the logic that has been posted and use it.

 

If you're scum, then you have really done a great job and if you're not then you need to start paying attention to what others tell you, even when it doesn't go your way.

Take your advice; Pay Attention

 

Implying that despite our long, argumented posts, we're just cattle blindly following a leader just proves how deaf you are.

Now playing the poor noob despised by mean old-vets will get you nowhere, we've all been noobs at some point and were listened to when we made sense, some of us still are.

Well maybe you should look at what they say about those that agree with Rahvin on certain matters.

 

Moridin, he lead a lynch on Kivam/Taim who turned out to be an innocent party goer, yet no one says anything about that?

Yes, it wasn't a good move but it was Day 1 and I was the first one vote to get him lynched.

Then he survived it, and the one after that too.

That should prove right there that you're not seeing the bigger picture with members. Your assuming just because someone posts a certain way; "they're mafia lets get them!" Made a mistake once, how many times are you going to make it again?

 

And do they believe you b/c you are their friend or b/c of a secret list of killer arguments that I have yet to read?

And I wouldn't boast about making them revealing if I were you, it just made the "three most important innocent roles" mafia targets.

You still don't see what you could have possibly done wrong?

 

Again, congrats if you're scum.

 

I would like to clarify that before this game I had no idea who was who, and even if I was someone's friend I wouldn't let that influence my vote. In a mafia game all ties SHOULD be TOSSED out the WINDOW.

Hello! i revealed long time ago! *grumbles*

 

And people just had to post 15pages when I was busy, sheesh.

 

In case Loki comes back beofre I got time to catch up, I'm voting now for [glow=brown,2,300]Rahvin[/glow] to get a vote down and b/c he switched from Moggy to Graendal and I find that fishy. (Plus he's making everyone avatars except for me *pouts*)

So just because someone switches their votes it fishy? maybe Rahvin had a moment of enlightenment and seen that there was more evidence against Graendal than Moggy. Don't you have those moments? If so I would like to see one, and soon.

 

3)When it looks like votes might go his way, he pulls Graendal out of his hat. If you 'knew' she was Mafia (and I suppose you have 'known' for quite a while) why keep silent about it for so long, until it suited you? Innocents do not withhold such important information.

*thumps you with a fish* Her name wasn't pulled out of a hat. I revealed information about her awhile back, and happen to match up with what he found from another player. If anyone bothered to pay attention to what has been said you would have seen that as well.

 

4)He and his cronies have been plotting to kill Moridin when we have no reason not to trust him, and every reason to rely on him to win this game. Valuable reason for doing so? They don't like his way of playing. Bastard's trying to use common sense and logic, he must die.

Who the hell are his cronies? I see people that have decided to work with him but are able to choose their own voting and their own stuff. I for one wouldn't want Moridin dead, but not Rahvin either. And if you noticed anything  you would see that Rahvin only votes and posts back to Moridin as a rebuttal to Moridin's attacks on him.

 

The innocents are going to lose this game because you people are actually listening to a liar tell you what to do.

 

So just in case a certain liar had confused anyone:I don't vote for people that I think are partygoers. I do vote for people that are known liars, that are the most likely to be mafia, that crash good plans that will help the innocents win - and I see we had no comment on that. Liar, are you sure you did not want to explain to all the nice people why you did not want my plan to work and why they all had to be revealaed?  Unbelievable. - and this is my favorite, someone who depend on friendships outside of the game to manipulate people.

You're not far behind yourself, you're soo focused on getting get of Rahvin even though you have nothing but a few things. things that really aren't related to the game in a way that is efficient enough, a MSN convo! oh wow, I can make those too you know. Oh wait you used that line there with the fake PM's, who are we to TRUST YOU and your EVIDENCE. Got anything to back up yours? I'm sorry to brust your bubble Moridin but not everyone is friends with the people they choose to share information with, it's usually based on information for information.

 

I hope that you are evil, and we have our first, if not, well that is sad. I still think that what Mesaana said about Graendel is true and we should look at her next.

Poor fella, you have no idea what you said there just ticked and wounded me. You think my information is true but yet you don't vote? Tuh you should use more logical thinking, if you think someone is telling the truth you should go with it and not just because someone is being confusing.

 

Rahvin, you forgot something, look back abit in my posts. You'll see the correction.

 

There I think I'm done. If you find what I posted to be offense than okay, but don't post, PM and tell me and only post the information we should be reading and looking at.

 

And not I feel alittle bit better that I've posted this, cause you all just pretty much annoyed the crap out of me with the way your thinking.