The Gwampy Thread

[Eel-finn]

Oh goes without saying...

 

But... tEofW is very LOTR heavy... :(

[Lord of 13]

Oh, yes. Cliches abound in the first few books.

[GrandpaG]

Whoever wrote Avatar was a WOT fan...I would guess, anyway.

[bad company]

Fantasy as a whole is based around a few central things, it's upto the author to make it theirs

[Eel-finn]

Very true.

 

But there is nothing wrong with taking a little from the Great J.R.R. Tolkien

[Anoxanmore]

Bleh Tolkien is bad.

[Lord of 13]

Tolkien is bad compared some other authors (Jordan? BS?), but his books are good enough for 4-7th grades. Though they can't fully appreciate the books, the writing is roughly the right level (or am I underestimating Tolkien?).

[Eel-finn]

(or am I underestimating Tolkien?).

 

Vastly. He revolutionized the Fantasy genre.

[GrandpaG]

I RP at ALL grade levels.  ;D

[Lord of 13]

He did, but now techniques have evolved from his time. I'm imposing modern standards and judgment; I realize his revolutionary concepts, not the least of which include the all-pervasive Orcs.

[Eel-finn]

I disagree. J.R.R. Tolkien stacks up today and is still one of the best if not the best.

[Lord of 13]

Good, but not up there IMO.

[Eel-finn]

LIES!

 

It's a damn classic. Does Alexander Dumas' "Count of Monte Cristo" not stack up today? Or H.G. Wells' "the War of the Worlds"? Or George Orwell's "1984"?

[Lord of 13]

1984 was pretty depressing, but good enough. War of the Worlds wasn't, in my eyes. The Count of Monte Cristo - I'm reading a translated version, and so I don't know if I can really judge it. Classic, BTW, is different from good writing. Classic means a certain element that makes the book memorable and a must-read, not necessarily good writing.

[Eel-finn]

How is it a classic, if it's written poorly? There can be no discussion. Classics = Awesome writing.

 

And how can you not like War of the Worlds? Changed people's perception of life from other worlds.

 

[GrandpaG]

I like bean soup...if it has salt.

[Eel-finn]

Most soups contain salt... o.O

[Lord of 13]

*sigh* Classics are considered classical not necessarily for good writing; you yourself gave evidence for War of the Worlds. Now, I'm not saying it's bad, but that it isn't good enough to rank with my all-stars.

[Anoxanmore]

Tolkien is bad.

[Lord of 13]

*nods in a rare moment of accord with Anox*

[Anoxanmore]

Like... really, really bad.

[GrandpaG]

* looks around *

Is Tolkien a spammer of Fiddlesticks?

* doesn't remember seeing him/her logged on here before *

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes.

I'm being silly.

;)

[Anoxanmore]

Yes you are GG and we love you.

[Guest BaLefireP]

;D

[Anoxanmore]

Boopsy? :P