RAGNAROK AVERTED - TOWN WINS (Including EP)

[Leyrann]

1 minute ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

Sooh and Duke. Duke agreed in chat to fire at Sooh atleast that's how I took his interactions with me. I know Duke wasn't RB'd redirected or prevented in any way. Sooh and Duke are mafia together.

 

Is that a watcher claim?

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Leyrann said:

 

Is that a watcher claim?

No. That's what Lenlo claims, I am not a watcher. I do other things.

[Leyrann]

Just now, Eternal Phoenix said:

No. That's what Lenlo claims, I am not a watcher. I do other things.

 

1 hour ago, Lenlo said:

As am I, but it was a possibility.

 

Btw, results, Shad visited no one last night.

 

I don't see how this relates to Duke?

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Leyrann said:

 

 

I don't see how this relates to Duke?

It doesn't, I'm using my own knowledge of events from night phase.
 

Practically though, Duke breadcrumbed JoAT. Then later he said he hinted he had commited to vig shot. So I told him to shoot Sooh, if I read the interactions right, he agreed. So, I know he didn't shoot Sooh, because Sooh isn't dead. I know he didn't shoot Kat, because it was redirected to Ame. That means Duke shot Dice.

[Gabriel Kross]

I had told Duke to shoot Sooh for multiple reasons I had a plan. JoAT seems too convenient a claim in this game, especially considering what I do. The fact that Duke had mock surprise about the idea he could "doc" himself gave it away, that is the first question you ask in a situation where you have a role like that you are unfamiliar with. I had to ask a few questions about how what I do works.

[Gabriel Kross]

I'm actually leaning Ley as a third Mafia, for the reactions. Trying to link my knowledge to Len's claim is a bit weird. @Leyrann why would you try to link what I was saying to Len?

[Leyrann]

19 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

It doesn't, I'm using my own knowledge of events from night phase.
 

Practically though, Duke breadcrumbed JoAT. Then later he said he hinted he had commited to vig shot. So I told him to shoot Sooh, if I read the interactions right, he agreed. So, I know he didn't shoot Sooh, because Sooh isn't dead. I know he didn't shoot Kat, because it was redirected to Ame. That means Duke shot Dice.

 

That makes sense, I suppose.

 

At the moment I'm happy with my vote on Kat though.

 

13 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

I'm actually leaning Ley as a third Mafia, for the reactions. Trying to link my knowledge to Len's claim is a bit weird. @Leyrann why would you try to link what I was saying to Len?

 

You were the first one to link to Len...

[Leyrann]

In fact I was saying I don't see the connection/link.

[Gabriel Kross]

No, you asked if I was claiming watcher, which is what Len claimed. Two watchers is not very logical, especially with how Lenlo's works based on his claim. I was basing my knowledge on what I do, which is entirely different.

[Leyrann]

1 minute ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

No, you asked if I was claiming watcher, which is what Len claimed. Two watchers is not very logical, especially with how Lenlo's works based on his claim. I was basing my knowledge on what I do, which is entirely different.

 

Uh, didn't Len claim tracker? Or am I remembering wrong?

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Leyrann said:

 

Uh, didn't Len claim tracker? Or am I remembering wrong?

Watcher/Tracker are basically two names for the same role.

[Andrej]

41 minutes ago, Leyrann said:

Like, no reason at all anyone who knows Dice would ever vote him. He basically had lynch immunity.

 

There’s a living IC. Too obvious a kill I suppose.

[Gabriel Kross]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

There’s a living IC. Too obvious a kill I suppose.

What are your thoughts on what I've revealed?

[Andrej]

Watcher and Tracker are different.

 

watcher sees who visits their target but not the action. You can catch NKs this way.

 

tracker follows the target to whoever they visit. You can also catch NKs this way.

 

they’re not the same.

[Andrej]

3 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

What are your thoughts on what I've revealed?

 

You think Duke is Mafia with Sooh because you told him to shoot her and he didn’t?

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Andrej said:

 

You think Duke is Mafia with Sooh because you told him to shoot her and he didn’t?

Not only didn't he shoot sooh, I know he had to shoot Dice. It is the only target he could have shot.

[Andrej]

You know without a doubt that he shot though?

 

Otherwise you’re speculating a lot.

[Gabriel Kross]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

You know without a doubt that he shot though?

 

Otherwise you’re speculating a lot.

He said he was commited to vig. There was a comment awhile back that said he was commited to vig

 

[Gabriel Kross]

3 minutes ago, Andrej said:

You know without a doubt that he shot though?

 

Otherwise you’re speculating a lot.

 

Just now, Eternal Phoenix said:

He said he was commited to vig. There was a comment awhile back that said he was commited to vig

 

It was a post about not knowing he could "doc" himself something like that exact words escape me.

[Leyrann]

21 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

Watcher/Tracker are basically two names for the same role.

 

Uh, no. See AJ's explanation. Watcher sees who visits someone, tracker sees who someone visits.

 

5 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

Not only didn't he shoot sooh, I know he had to shoot Dice. It is the only target he could have shot.

 

So you're saying that you directed a possible shot on someone who's already being called town by basically everyone who knows him?

 

Vote: EP

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Leyrann said:

 

Uh, no. See AJ's explanation. Watcher sees who visits someone, tracker sees who someone visits.

 

 

So you're saying that you directed a possible shot on someone who's already being called town by basically everyone who knows him?

 

Vote: EP

No, I am not saying I directed anything??

[Gabriel Kross]

I am not a redirector. We know what the redirector did, Ley is suggesting there is two redirectors which would be silly. Ley is looking more and more like a third option for me today.

[Leyrann]

1 minute ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

No, I am not saying I directed anything??

 

You're saying you know he could only have shot Dice.

 

That's either your role or someone else's role that you're aware of either by your role or by a QT.

[Leyrann]

Anyways, I have to leave now I'm back in a few hours.

[Andrej]

3 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

 

It was a post about not knowing he could "doc" himself something like that exact words escape me.

 

Do me a favor and show me the sequence of posts that make you think he’s a JoAT or had a vig shot?

 

Saying you know he wasn’t manipulated in any way is good info though. Lenlo’s result leads to believe there’s a RBer present so that could be one explanation as to why he wasn’t a target cause it was used elsewhere. The other is that he’s on the team with whatever powers.