The Founding of Quahog (Peter's Progress) Mafia - Game Over

[Shad_]

What is a recent game in which she has been an underwhelming villager that I can actually ISO?

[Clovdyx]

 

There are now things in thread that fundamentally conflict with my approach to playing as mafia

Do you agree with this statement?

 

 

Without knowing what she specifically is referring to, no.  She said that I should have came away with a town read for her no lynch.  I think that's a stretch - again, it's not damning (either in general or for her, specifically) but I don't think it's absolutely clearing.  When you and Tink were discussing how it would have been incredibly weird if she voted for someone and tied the wagons, I said THAT would have been clearing.  I think Mafia!BFG is too self-conscious/lacking in confidence in her ability to just come in and tie a lynch that she hasn't at least spoken for.  Maybe that applies to her voting no lynch there, but I don't know.

 

The only other thing I could possibly think of that she's talking about is her maintaining concern about me this extensively.  In the PerC game she was scum, she really had no choice but to townread me.  In Spirited Away, she avoided addressing me until she basically couldn't do it anymore and then hedged around a townread that I'm pretty sure she triple caveated about how I always pocket her or trick her.  The only other game she was scum against me was 9-5, and I have no idea how she approached me that game.

 

If it's not that, I have no idea what she's getting at.

[Clovdyx]

What is a recent game in which she has been an underwhelming villager that I can actually ISO?

 

I have no idea.  The only town games from hers that I've paid much attention to this year are Fight Club and Tainted Minds.  I modded the former, and she was only underwhelming the latter parts of Tainted Minds...where she was basically a consensus townread halfway through D1 and I'm pretty sure I threatened to kill anyone who pushed her or something lol

 

Based just on post count, Gilmore Girls?  Good luck though.

[Shad_]

 

There are now things in thread that fundamentally conflict with my approach to playing as mafia

Do you agree with this statement?

 

 

I think her question itself is kind of villagery for her.

 

She pulled a stunt at D1 EoD last game that was unusually bold for her; faked that she had some convincing reason to change the wagons but needed a few minutes to explain it, then disappeared for the better part of an hour and came back saying it was just a test to see if scum bit.

 

That probably doesn't translate over night to a huge shift in scum confidence but it accounts for some of my hesitation to feel good about this statement or about her stubbornness in response to my questioning.

[Shad_]

I think the simple fact that she had me as null for ages and has you as a scum lean makes her likely to be town but ? that's not the sort of stuff I'm used to relying on to read her by.

[Shad_]

her statement, not question, you know what I meant

[Shad_]

Gilmore Girls would be the ideal ISO yeah

 

oh well

[Shad_]

Tiink and Verb for the lazy solve I guess

[Shad_]

but I haven't put in half of the work I ought to

[Clovdyx]

I think the simple fact that she had me as null for ages and has you as a scum lean makes her likely to be town but ? that's not the sort of stuff I'm used to relying on to read her by.

 

Did her read on you change?

[Shad_]

Eventually

[Shad_]

There was no real progression to it that I noticed.  I just sort of became town, but it was after some distance from the back and forth

[Shad_]

Let me pull it up

 

iirc it was more of a slight lean than a confident anything

[Shad_]

Shad, I'm not going to lock!clear you Day 1 in a game I'm still reading at a superficial level gun to head you're town, but o will have no confidence in that until I've done some #werk

 

Yeah I think this is just fine

[Shad_]

As in consistent with what preceded it, not a radical shift

[Clovdyx]

Eventually

 

I don't remember seeing it, unless you're talking about when she said gun to head town but no confidence or whatever the phrasing was.  I usually don't really count those.

 

But that's actually a pretty good point.  If she's mafia, I would expect she would realize that you're probably not getting lynched this game, so it would be easier to call you town when basically everybody else is and just go with the flow.  

[Clovdyx]

Unless she's deliberately going for levels, I guess.

[Shad_]

tbh there was a period of time earlier today where I got to thinking maybe she's just a villager and you two aren't clicking because she's right

[Shad_]

But if this is your scum game it's tiers above anything I expected

[Shad_]

And if it isn't then it could be as simple as Tiink and Verb I guess.

 

That's purely a POE statement though

[Shad_]

Obviously if BFG's town she thinks you're capable of this kind of play?

 

You can see why I'm kind of here

[Shad_]

But that's actually a pretty good point. If she's mafia, I would expect she would realize that you're probably not getting lynched this game, so it would be easier to call you town when basically everybody else is and just go with the flow.

I'm pretty sure wolves are going to leave me and Ben alive for a 30 second lylo if we catch one today lol

 

But it's more like

 

Unless she's deliberately going for levels, I guess.

Either this has been her calling card all game or she's town basically

[Clovdyx]

 

Shad, I'm not going to lock!clear you Day 1 in a game I'm still reading at a superficial level gun to head you're town, but o will have no confidence in that until I've done some #werk

 

Yeah I think this is just fine

 

 

I think I'm going to stop doing ISOs.  I went back to check SA again to see how she handled giving reads out there and came across something ~similar (in idea, not actual content) about me and now I'm trying to figure out if she'd just sit here and try to level us (me?) all game.

[Clovdyx]

But if this is your scum game it's tiers above anything I expected

 

...Thanks?  It's not, but I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel here.

[Shad_]

I've reached a point in my Mafia career where I think I dread the ISO button even more as town than as a wolf.