Sailor Moon Mafia [Advanced] Game Thread

[Eldrick4221]

@Fred and coward

 

How familiar are you with mafia in general, and with the players in this game?

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

Eldrick name the reasons you think Im pushing Sbop

All I can see is that you pursued asking him if he knew if penny subbed out as scum. But because this has no bearing on the game being she subbed out before the game started, I don't understand the reason for this.

 

You said there was something else about his posts you didn't like, but I'm blanking on what it was. I actually wanted to ask you for example of it.

For someone who claims to be trying to figure me out, this shows the fact youre not man.

 

Youve like at least 3-4 posts saying im not reading Zander Town, Zander you need to show me youre Town and Im not getting what youre saying/pushing yet Ive got like prolly at least 20 posts explaining why I sussed for the original reason. multiple posts explaining other issues ive had with them and youre still like I cant figure out you out Zander....this is why I cant read you Town.

 

ISO me and look if youre a Villager man.

Already said I'm not gonna ISO you. I never do. You say too much.

 

People likely never ISO me either :P

 

If you're a villager you can answer my questions directly so I can understand you. If you're scum, you can just ignore me and let my suspicion stay.

[Zander?]

 

 

I'm more confused about the Zander part if I'm honest. I genuinely believe he's town but very stuck. I also don't advocate in killing to try to clear people because you really can't ever know. Unless you're trying to find the lynchees alignment.

 

While I don't understand how we're related with Darthe at all, it's more that my read on Darthe and eldrick is very similar so him picking Darthe but not Eldrick stands out.

 

Thoroughly confused.

I'm not sure he's town, and that worries me. The big way to tell the difference between town!zand and scum!zand is if his reasons to tunnel make sense.

 

And his push on bop doesn't.

The thing is, I don't think it's W/W between Zander/Cory-Chris.

 

While Zanders tunneling is extremely unproductive, I think he honestly though (thinks) he's onto something.

 

 

Im Town and Cordyx are too imo.

 

Theyre just behind Linz for me.

 

And yes I do.

 

Ayways I need to get ready for my course.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Eldrick name the reasons you think Im pushing Sbop

All I can see is that you pursued asking him if he knew if penny subbed out as scum. But because this has no bearing on the game being she subbed out before the game started, I don't understand the reason for this.

 

You said there was something else about his posts you didn't like, but I'm blanking on what it was. I actually wanted to ask you for example of it.

For someone who claims to be trying to figure me out, this shows the fact youre not man.

 

Youve like at least 3-4 posts saying im not reading Zander Town, Zander you need to show me youre Town and Im not getting what youre saying/pushing yet Ive got like prolly at least 20 posts explaining why I sussed for the original reason. multiple posts explaining other issues ive had with them and youre still like I cant figure out you out Zander....this is why I cant read you Town.

 

ISO me and look if youre a Villager man.

Already said I'm not gonna ISO you. I never do. You say too much.

 

People likely never ISO me either :P

 

If you're a villager you can answer my questions directly so I can understand you. If you're scum, you can just ignore me and let my suspicion stay.

 

 

[v] Eld [/v]

 

This is such a cop out post.

 

Town!Eld dont speak in absolutes like this....only Sith do

[Fredwood]

I guess to put it another way, I only have 4 strong reads one way or the other.  The rest I have kind of all lumped together with some difference of suspicion, in that group are Zander, Darthe and Spades Bop.  None of them are lynchable, and I haven't cleared them yet, however, I did specifically mention them because I thought the interaction was interesting, I have some negatives and positives on them all, but need to see more in order to further evaluate, however I do think there is some correlation that leads me to believe that if someone is bad it's a positive for someone else.  Villa flips don't really have anything to do with this assessment because they're not really going to teach us a lot, so there is no reason to think that I'm saying a villa flip is bad for any of the others and advocating the lynch. It's simply a statement of if X is bad then Y isn't.

[Spadeszee]

lol ok, I never said I wanted to lynch someone to clear someone else. I said if one is a wolf then it looks good for the other. If you think that's manipulative that's fine, because I don't want to lynch any of you 3 right now. if you think I haven't said something with my posts, that seems to be a fallback for you on a lot of people, so I'm not really bothered by it, I've stated several specific reasons for my reads and reaction, and I may very well be wrong the Darthe/Spade not being on a team together, but it was my initial reaction to it. I didn't bring up Eldrick, you did, so I'm not sure why you keep mentioning him as a comparison point, if I had a problem with your Eldrick read I would have said something. TBF, I don't really have a problem with your Darthe read (aside from the read possibly being true of yourself), but I don't think it's a read a teammate puts another teammate.

I brought up Eldrick because my read on him is very similar to Darthe.

 

Once I actually asked you specifics about Darthe you back peddled on what you said a lot, which Idk it's just pinging me so hard right now.

 

Maybe I'm reading too hard into you right now and when I get sleep I'll reread all of this, but it feels forced?

 

If I were at my PC I would be more specific as to pinpointing what doesn't line up and why what you've said doesn't say much to me.

 

I'm not one to force a read of I don't have one. I think you glazed over some people in your read list, because you don't have much to say about your neutrals. I tried to give an explanation as to why I read everyone the way I did, even my neutrals.

 

I think manipulation was too strong a word to use, I apologize for that, but I'm not understanding how you came to your conclusions and it feels forced.

 

I really want to reevaluate this in the morning when I have a clear head.

[Eldrick4221]

The only absolute is of past experience. That I don't ISO you. I don't. I said why.

 

But you clearly don't want me to understand where you're at. I still want to know if you change your mind and want to tell me. I won't be digging through your bazillion posts about whether or not penny subs out as scum. That's all I got from your posts, and it's why I don't think you're town. You want to change my opinion, explain why it's wrong.

[Fredwood]

@Fred and coward

 

How familiar are you with mafia in general, and with the players in this game?

 

With villa or hybrid games, not a lot, but I have played some form of mafia quite some time.

 

With these specific people not much, I've had one game with Cuth and Sooh, but they both died kind of early and the game got kind of sloppy at the end.  So not confident enough to base my read on anyone based on anything outside the confines of this game.

[Eldrick4221]

 

@Fred and coward

 

How familiar are you with mafia in general, and with the players in this game?

With villa or hybrid games, not a lot, but I have played some form of mafia quite some time.

 

With these specific people not much, I've had one game with Cuth and Sooh, but they both died kind of early and the game got kind of sloppy at the end. So not confident enough to base my read on anyone based on anything outside the confines of this game.

Cool, thanks. You were coming off as experienced.

[Eldrick4221]

Still think scruff is the best bet for lynch today, but not hating the idea of a zander lynch.

[Spadeszee]

Bop, I found someone who doesn't lock clear Eldrick. You can tell your friend now.

[Eldrick4221]

Lol

[Spadeszee]

I don't know what it means because my brain is broken, but Zander has been hounding Bop and I all game but neither of us have called him Wolfie so no vote, Eldricks calls him Wolfie and he votes Eld.

 

People who know Zander, please explain.

 

I really need to sleep now.

[bopolis]

scruffington's iso from the quick game he was in on MU: http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1064483

 

cliffs that i think are relevant: like here he is pretty inactive on day1(5 posts total there). Similar openings. Votes people without initially listing the reason. Has a bit of a snarky/condescending reaction to pressure for his votes without reasoning.

 

I think these things are similar to what he's doing here and thats good, but the huge problem is that I don't have a wolf game or meta to compare him to and a sample size of one is not much. So while I think he COULD be a villager, I can't say with confidence that he IS one and this it the extent that I am comfortable defending him.

[Eldrick4221]

I don't know what it means because my brain is broken, but Zander has been hounding Bop and I all game but neither of us have called him Wolfie so no vote, Eldricks calls him Wolfie and he votes Eld.

 

People who know Zander, please explain.

 

I really need to sleep now.

I actually didn't call him wolfy. I attribute his push on bop as to come from wolf!zand, and it's why I haven't been able to call him town, but all I really want is to understand.

 

His refusal to do so has moved him down. He was null at the time of his voting me.

[Eldrick4221]

scruffington's iso from the quick game he was in on MU: http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1064483

 

cliffs that i think are relevant: like here he is pretty inactive on day1(5 posts total there). Similar openings. Votes people without initially listing the reason. Has a bit of a snarky/condescending reaction to pressure for his votes without reasoning.

 

I think these things are similar to what he's doing here and thats good, but the huge problem is that I don't have a wolf game or meta to compare him to and a sample size of one is not much. So while I think he COULD be a villager, I can't say with confidence that he IS one and this it the extent that I am comfortable defending him.

I appreciate the effort you're putting into understanding him. It's nice to know that this COULD be him as town. But like you said, no scum reference point to draw from. I'm taking it at face value, and that is that it looks bad. If he's town, I really hope he decides to come in and clear this up.

[bopolis]

re: fred/spades

 

i think i understand the miscommunication or problem thats going on but im not clearing it up because i think having fred and spades go back and forth is helping me get a read/opinions on him

[Spadeszee]

 

I don't know what it means because my brain is broken, but Zander has been hounding Bop and I all game but neither of us have called him Wolfie so no vote, Eldricks calls him Wolfie and he votes Eld.

 

People who know Zander, please explain.

 

I really need to sleep now.

I actually didn't call him wolfy. I attribute his push on bop as to come from wolf!zand, and it's why I haven't been able to call him town, but all I really want is to understand.

 

His refusal to do so has moved him down. He was null at the time of his voting me.

I reread, you're correct. However I think you're the only one calling him out, really.

 

I can't decide what this means for either of you right now.

[Fleeing Coward]

@Fred and coward

 

How familiar are you with mafia in general, and with the players in this game?

 

 

Been playing mafia variants for over 10 years, I've seen at least half the players in this game play games before. Cuth is from my original forum so I probably know him better than the rest.

[bopolis]

fleeing coward.

 

 

i dig your avatar

[Eldrick4221]

No prob. Get some sleep. :)

[Eldrick4221]

 

@Fred and coward

 

How familiar are you with mafia in general, and with the players in this game?

 

Been playing mafia variants for over 10 years, I've seen at least half the players in this game play games before. Cuth is from my original forum so I probably know him better than the rest.

How familiar are you with the people you have played with? How well can you read them?

[bopolis]

time to hijack the thread;

 

eld you play path of exile right(i think we talked abotu it in the first game i played here, if not you then someone else in that game)?

[Eldrick4221]

I used to...

[Eldrick4221]

Haven't had a computer in quite some time now. Haven't played PoE in years