Sailor Moon Mafia [Advanced] Game Thread

[Spadeszee]

 

 

This may be gibberish as I try to work out my thoughts. This is mostly unlikely options we haven't considered yet.

 

I think Sooh may need to be reevaluated, eventually.  In my mind, her reaction to Ted coming into the thread and claiming Sailor Venus seemed genuine, and led me to believe that was/is her character. I'm trying to work out in my head how this would still work if she's scum.I guess Ted could have mentioned it in the scum chat so she knew to react or he stole her fake claim so it was actually genuine. It seems like a stretch. 

 

She originally called out Aquilla/FC for inactivity, which I guess could be done as scum. But why draw attention to a teammate that early? Distancing? 

 

The vote on FC is kind of leaning towards Null on me now. Could have been a bus attempt since it was kind of obvious that FC was a viable lynch at that point, furthering the previously mentioned distancing. 

 

It's plausible that she could be scum, but it'd be a lot of what ifs. 

 

Another possibility that's been crossing my mind is that Eldrick really is the Vig and SpadesBop is scum. Eldrick claims vig, Bop sees it and counter claims as scum and tries to get Eldrick lynched over it. The problem with this is it's obviously easy to confirm once Eldrick's flips. Or Vice Versa, Eldrick claims it as scum to try to call the vig (SpadesBop) out. 

 

OR Cordyx s scum, let their combined mafia egos free offed their team to get lock clear and are laughing at us all in their scum chat. 

 

 

O: When did this happen?

 

It's 75% joking. And none of them are really avenues I'm looking to explore with maybe the exception of Eldrick being scum and trying to call the vig out.

 

Haha okay, I thought you were saying we did this and I was a bit confused!

[Zander?]

I should prolly stop with the pain meds and pipe now right?!!?!?!?

[Fredwood]

 

 

I said it wasn't real and it felt more like trying to create a larger suspect list then a genuine push on me, it's in my Night 1 Wall post.

 

I will say independently that Eldrick is more likely the non-mafia in that scenario.   I don't see why Scoobs would obvspew me there though as a teammate, I was slowly creeping up lists at the time, I can't think of a good reason to impede a teammates progress there because I don't see a scenario where Scoobs honestly thinks he's outliving me.  If I was his wolf teammate in that situation I would have been so titled. 

 

I think case in point, Scoobs avoids spewing Marsh, why spew one teammate who is only slightly better off then the other? Strategically it's a bad move, he's not going to elevate Marsh there, he's only dragging down his teammate to the other's level.

 

 

It's like he's talking about the selling points of the car and how lucky the customer is to get it at this price while the customer s asking why the contract is $4 k over the price he told you, and the term is twice as long as he said but then surprises you with a witty joke and a compliment about how good you'll look in it and that should make it all better and for some it even does....

 

So the basis for my scumread is that you think I should consider a change of career?  I think if you call me a sleazy car salesman one more time I'm going to apply for a position and use your posts on my resume.

[MrsClov]

The other thought is that with Soohs potential role claim, wouldn't she be a smart kill for a wolf? Who know's what PR she could have with that defensive behavior over her character. I guess she would have been a really smart kill (assuming shes V).

 

Maybe Iron was in charge of the vote and took out Darthe in hopes it would keep him alive longer? People say he hinted at his role but when I looked back I didn't see any hints, but that might be from my inexperience and not being able to read Darthe well.

 

Lets make some assumptions right now...

LINZ :IC

DARTHE  :Cop

SOOH :Sailor Scout (Can't remember which)

MmmSpades : NightVig

Eldrick : NightVig

 

Cory-Chris

Zander

Fred

Cuth

 

We can't know what role Sooh has

 

Who gets NKed next?

 

3 basically vanilla villagers

Cory/Chris with a tone of control

 

With the assumption that Boppy and I as well as Eldrick aren't lying about our shots and are villager shots and that Sooh slipped and is an important villager.

 

Who gets picked off next? My brain says Sooh (potential PR) or Chris/Cory (due to thread influence).

 

I ask this and think maybe it's not a good idea to point it out and just let the wolf do their thing because it could be more telling, but this is where my brain is at right now.

I quoted where Darthe said it when Night 1 ended. He talked about copping Zander.

[Spadeszee]

 

ALSO PLEASE IM NOT GONNA GET TO WATCH GoT TILL LIKE COUPLE HOURS AFTER IT AIRS SO PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE NO SPOILERS PLEASE!!!!!!

 

 

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

 

I second this.

[MrsClov]

Honestly, I think Fred's had an uphill battle this game. He came in having to defend his predecessor's actions from the start and we've kind of meta-cleared one another for various reasons. 

[Zander?]

This may be gibberish as I try to work out my thoughts. This is mostly unlikely options we haven't considered yet.

 

I think Sooh may need to be reevaluated, eventually.  In my mind, her reaction to Ted coming into the thread and claiming Sailor Venus seemed genuine, and led me to believe that was/is her character. I'm trying to work out in my head how this would still work if she's scum.I guess Ted could have mentioned it in the scum chat so she knew to react or he stole her fake claim so it was actually genuine. It seems like a stretch. 

 

She originally called out Aquilla/FC for inactivity, which I guess could be done as scum. But why draw attention to a teammate that early? Distancing? 

 

The vote on FC is kind of leaning towards Null on me now. Could have been a bus attempt since it was kind of obvious that FC was a viable lynch at that point, furthering the previously mentioned distancing. 

 

It's plausible that she could be scum, but it'd be a lot of what ifs. 

 

Another possibility that's been crossing my mind is that Eldrick really is the Vig and SpadesBop is scum. Eldrick claims vig, Bop sees it and counter claims as scum and tries to get Eldrick lynched over it. The problem with this is it's obviously easy to confirm once Eldrick's flips. Or Vice Versa, Eldrick claims it as scum to try to call the vig (SpadesBop) out. 

 

OR Cordyx s scum, let their combined mafia egos free offed their team to get lock clear and are laughing at us all in their scum chat. 

 

 

 

Cory and Chris never bus a teammate like that EVER....100% Lock Town for me.

 

Ive had soooooo many chats with both of them about bussing and even if someone wanted to say well thats the perfect cover, they'd never do that the next day after already being down a teammate.

 

No chance at all imo.

 

Sooh is Town imo but not cleared.

 

The Eld SBop thing is still bouncing around in my head but I think we try for the most scummiest player today and if the game doesn't end if he's Scum we see what the NA's bring and re evaluate the next day.  But yes I think Eld is more likely tho based on game play of both but I'm not ruling them out for certain tho.

 

What are your current thoughts/reads on Fred/Cuth?

 

3 person WTL in order to please if you don't mind Linz?

[Spadeszee]

 

 

The other thought is that with Soohs potential role claim, wouldn't she be a smart kill for a wolf? Who know's what PR she could have with that defensive behavior over her character. I guess she would have been a really smart kill (assuming shes V).

 

Maybe Iron was in charge of the vote and took out Darthe in hopes it would keep him alive longer? People say he hinted at his role but when I looked back I didn't see any hints, but that might be from my inexperience and not being able to read Darthe well.

 

Lets make some assumptions right now...

LINZ :IC

DARTHE  :Cop

SOOH :Sailor Scout (Can't remember which)

MmmSpades : NightVig

Eldrick : NightVig

 

Cory-Chris

Zander

Fred

Cuth

 

We can't know what role Sooh has

 

Who gets NKed next?

 

3 basically vanilla villagers

Cory/Chris with a tone of control

 

With the assumption that Boppy and I as well as Eldrick aren't lying about our shots and are villager shots and that Sooh slipped and is an important villager.

 

Who gets picked off next? My brain says Sooh (potential PR) or Chris/Cory (due to thread influence).

 

I ask this and think maybe it's not a good idea to point it out and just let the wolf do their thing because it could be more telling, but this is where my brain is at right now.

 

I quoted where Darthe said it when Night 1 ended. He talked about copping Zander.

 

Ah yes, I think it's because he also said "when do we get to NK" early in the thread that I forgot the specifics.

[Zander?]

 

 

ALSO PLEASE IM NOT GONNA GET TO WATCH GoT TILL LIKE COUPLE HOURS AFTER IT AIRS SO PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE NO SPOILERS PLEASE!!!!!!

 

 

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

 

I second this.

 

 

[MrsClov]

 

This may be gibberish as I try to work out my thoughts. This is mostly unlikely options we haven't considered yet.

 

I think Sooh may need to be reevaluated, eventually.  In my mind, her reaction to Ted coming into the thread and claiming Sailor Venus seemed genuine, and led me to believe that was/is her character. I'm trying to work out in my head how this would still work if she's scum.I guess Ted could have mentioned it in the scum chat so she knew to react or he stole her fake claim so it was actually genuine. It seems like a stretch. 

 

She originally called out Aquilla/FC for inactivity, which I guess could be done as scum. But why draw attention to a teammate that early? Distancing? 

 

The vote on FC is kind of leaning towards Null on me now. Could have been a bus attempt since it was kind of obvious that FC was a viable lynch at that point, furthering the previously mentioned distancing. 

 

It's plausible that she could be scum, but it'd be a lot of what ifs. 

 

Another possibility that's been crossing my mind is that Eldrick really is the Vig and SpadesBop is scum. Eldrick claims vig, Bop sees it and counter claims as scum and tries to get Eldrick lynched over it. The problem with this is it's obviously easy to confirm once Eldrick's flips. Or Vice Versa, Eldrick claims it as scum to try to call the vig (SpadesBop) out. 

 

OR Cordyx s scum, let their combined mafia egos free offed their team to get lock clear and are laughing at us all in their scum chat. 

 

 

 

Cory and Chris never bus a teammate like that EVER....100% Lock Town for me.

 

Ive had soooooo many chats with both of them about bussing and even if someone wanted to say well thats the perfect cover, they'd never do that the next day after already being down a teammate.

 

No chance at all imo.

 

Sooh is Town imo but not cleared.

 

The Eld SBop thing is still bouncing around in my head but I think we try for the most scummiest player today and if the game doesn't end if he's Scum we see what the NA's bring and re evaluate the next day.  But yes I think Eld is more likely tho based on game play of both but I'm not ruling them out for certain tho.

 

What are your current thoughts/reads on Fred/Cuth?

 

3 person WTL in order to please if you don't mind Linz?

 

It's a joke, Z. Trust me I've heard the anti-bussing rants, probably more than you have.

[Zander?]

theres a huge GoT softball right there!!!!!!!!!1

[Spadeszee]

 

 

 

ALSO PLEASE IM NOT GONNA GET TO WATCH GoT TILL LIKE COUPLE HOURS AFTER IT AIRS SO PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE NO SPOILERS PLEASE!!!!!!

 

 

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

 

I second this.

 

 

 

I used the gif above to justify my cop reads when I hydra'd with Hallibabe xD

We only gifed with Tyrion, it was fantastic.

[Zander?]

 

 

This may be gibberish as I try to work out my thoughts. This is mostly unlikely options we haven't considered yet.

 

I think Sooh may need to be reevaluated, eventually.  In my mind, her reaction to Ted coming into the thread and claiming Sailor Venus seemed genuine, and led me to believe that was/is her character. I'm trying to work out in my head how this would still work if she's scum.I guess Ted could have mentioned it in the scum chat so she knew to react or he stole her fake claim so it was actually genuine. It seems like a stretch. 

 

She originally called out Aquilla/FC for inactivity, which I guess could be done as scum. But why draw attention to a teammate that early? Distancing? 

 

The vote on FC is kind of leaning towards Null on me now. Could have been a bus attempt since it was kind of obvious that FC was a viable lynch at that point, furthering the previously mentioned distancing. 

 

It's plausible that she could be scum, but it'd be a lot of what ifs. 

 

Another possibility that's been crossing my mind is that Eldrick really is the Vig and SpadesBop is scum. Eldrick claims vig, Bop sees it and counter claims as scum and tries to get Eldrick lynched over it. The problem with this is it's obviously easy to confirm once Eldrick's flips. Or Vice Versa, Eldrick claims it as scum to try to call the vig (SpadesBop) out. 

 

OR Cordyx s scum, let their combined mafia egos free offed their team to get lock clear and are laughing at us all in their scum chat. 

 

 

 

Cory and Chris never bus a teammate like that EVER....100% Lock Town for me.

 

Ive had soooooo many chats with both of them about bussing and even if someone wanted to say well thats the perfect cover, they'd never do that the next day after already being down a teammate.

 

No chance at all imo.

 

Sooh is Town imo but not cleared.

 

The Eld SBop thing is still bouncing around in my head but I think we try for the most scummiest player today and if the game doesn't end if he's Scum we see what the NA's bring and re evaluate the next day.  But yes I think Eld is more likely tho based on game play of both but I'm not ruling them out for certain tho.

 

What are your current thoughts/reads on Fred/Cuth?

 

3 person WTL in order to please if you don't mind Linz?

 

It's a joke, Z. Trust me I've heard the anti-bussing rants, probably more than you have.

 

 

lolme...yes yes you have!!!!!!

 

lolololololol

 

*puts down the drugs*

[Zander?]

Zander, I have no idea what's going on with the color thing.  I'm trying to figure out what you're attempting to say, beyond the fact that you just don't trust Fred, but I'm struggling to get it.  Can you explain it to me?

 

 

And lol too many words

 

Im commenting on their back and forth

 

there were things i liked and didnt liked and things i wanted to ask,  so i showed each persons comment on it,

 

its ok im just rambling anyways,,,lololol

[MrsClov]

Zander, as for your questions I'm going to go through and do some ISO's and develop my thoughts. 

[Zander?]

The other thought is that with Soohs potential role claim, wouldn't she be a smart kill for a wolf? Who know's what PR she could have with that defensive behavior over her character. I guess she would have been a really smart kill (assuming shes V).

 

Maybe Iron was in charge of the vote and took out Darthe in hopes it would keep him alive longer? People say he hinted at his role but when I looked back I didn't see any hints, but that might be from my inexperience and not being able to read Darthe well.

 

Lets make some assumptions right now...

LINZ :IC

DARTHE  :Cop

SOOH :Sailor Scout (Can't remember which)

MmmSpades : NightVig

Eldrick : NightVig

 

Cory-Chris

Zander

Fred

Cuth

 

We can't know what role Sooh has

 

Who gets NKed next?

 

3 basically vanilla villagers

Cory/Chris with a tone of control

 

With the assumption that Boppy and I as well as Eldrick aren't lying about our shots and are villager shots and that Sooh slipped and is an important villager.

 

Who gets picked off next? My brain says Sooh (potential PR) or Chris/Cory (due to thread influence).

 

I ask this and think maybe it's not a good idea to point it out and just let the wolf do their thing because it could be more telling, but this is where my brain is at right now.

 

WORDS

[Zander?]

 

It wasn't serious. Just random possibilities that I have very little interest in looking into.

 

 

Can't hear you over us laughing in scum chat.

 

 

I dont believe you.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

I said it wasn't real and it felt more like trying to create a larger suspect list then a genuine push on me, it's in my Night 1 Wall post.

 

I will say independently that Eldrick is more likely the non-mafia in that scenario.   I don't see why Scoobs would obvspew me there though as a teammate, I was slowly creeping up lists at the time, I can't think of a good reason to impede a teammates progress there because I don't see a scenario where Scoobs honestly thinks he's outliving me.  If I was his wolf teammate in that situation I would have been so titled. 

 

I think case in point, Scoobs avoids spewing Marsh, why spew one teammate who is only slightly better off then the other? Strategically it's a bad move, he's not going to elevate Marsh there, he's only dragging down his teammate to the other's level.

 

 

It's like he's talking about the selling points of the car and how lucky the customer is to get it at this price while the customer s asking why the contract is $4 k over the price he told you, and the term is twice as long as he said but then surprises you with a witty joke and a compliment about how good you'll look in it and that should make it all better and for some it even does....

 

So the basis for my scumread is that you think I should consider a change of career?  I think if you call me a sleazy car salesman one more time I'm going to apply for a position and use your posts on my resume.

 

 

You should, you'd be good at it. it would have been GOAT tho if you actually were one tho....lolololololol

 

So what's your 3 person WTL list and why?

[Zander?]

Honestly, I think Fred's had an uphill battle this game. He came in having to defend his predecessor's actions from the start and we've kind of meta-cleared one another for various reasons. 

 

So youre thinking Town then I assume?

 

 

Zander, as for your questions I'm going to go through and do some ISO's and develop my thoughts. 

 

OK tyvm.

[Fredwood]

 

 

 

 

I said it wasn't real and it felt more like trying to create a larger suspect list then a genuine push on me, it's in my Night 1 Wall post.

 

I will say independently that Eldrick is more likely the non-mafia in that scenario.   I don't see why Scoobs would obvspew me there though as a teammate, I was slowly creeping up lists at the time, I can't think of a good reason to impede a teammates progress there because I don't see a scenario where Scoobs honestly thinks he's outliving me.  If I was his wolf teammate in that situation I would have been so titled. 

 

I think case in point, Scoobs avoids spewing Marsh, why spew one teammate who is only slightly better off then the other? Strategically it's a bad move, he's not going to elevate Marsh there, he's only dragging down his teammate to the other's level.

 

 

It's like he's talking about the selling points of the car and how lucky the customer is to get it at this price while the customer s asking why the contract is $4 k over the price he told you, and the term is twice as long as he said but then surprises you with a witty joke and a compliment about how good you'll look in it and that should make it all better and for some it even does....

 

So the basis for my scumread is that you think I should consider a change of career?  I think if you call me a sleazy car salesman one more time I'm going to apply for a position and use your posts on my resume.

 

 

You should, you'd be good at it. it would have been GOAT tho if you actually were one tho....lolololololol

 

So what's your 3 person WTL list and why?

 

WTL? I assume you mean wolf

 

I'm really only interested in a Cuth lynch, if he's not scum I'm dead anyway.  I'm not terribly confident in creating a tinfoil rn.  I know two people are on the same you lynch town not teammates as scum, so if they were to break that trend for this game it would be disappointing (Bop and the other hydra).  Anyone else but MrsClovx I guess things could be twisted into a scum lean with enough tinfoil.  Between the rest you're in the weakest position for POE, but you also have the backing of strongest town read who has been on fire with reads, so there's no reason to doubt them now.

 

Would have been really nice if both Vigs didn't shoot Scoobs, so they could have eliminated who ever didn't get lynched today between me and Cuth. 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

I said it wasn't real and it felt more like trying to create a larger suspect list then a genuine push on me, it's in my Night 1 Wall post.

 

I will say independently that Eldrick is more likely the non-mafia in that scenario.   I don't see why Scoobs would obvspew me there though as a teammate, I was slowly creeping up lists at the time, I can't think of a good reason to impede a teammates progress there because I don't see a scenario where Scoobs honestly thinks he's outliving me.  If I was his wolf teammate in that situation I would have been so titled. 

 

I think case in point, Scoobs avoids spewing Marsh, why spew one teammate who is only slightly better off then the other? Strategically it's a bad move, he's not going to elevate Marsh there, he's only dragging down his teammate to the other's level.

 

 

It's like he's talking about the selling points of the car and how lucky the customer is to get it at this price while the customer s asking why the contract is $4 k over the price he told you, and the term is twice as long as he said but then surprises you with a witty joke and a compliment about how good you'll look in it and that should make it all better and for some it even does....

 

So the basis for my scumread is that you think I should consider a change of career?  I think if you call me a sleazy car salesman one more time I'm going to apply for a position and use your posts on my resume.

 

 

You should, you'd be good at it. it would have been GOAT tho if you actually were one tho....lolololololol

 

So what's your 3 person WTL list and why?

 

WTL? I assume you mean wolf

 

I'm really only interested in a Cuth lynch, if he's not scum I'm dead anyway.  I'm not terribly confident in creating a tinfoil rn.  I know two people are on the same you lynch town not teammates as scum, so if they were to break that trend for this game it would be disappointing (Bop and the other hydra).  Anyone else but MrsClovx I guess things could be twisted into a scum lean with enough tinfoil.  Between the rest you're in the weakest position for POE, but you also have the backing of strongest town read who has been on fire with reads, so there's no reason to doubt them now.

 

Would have been really nice if both Vigs didn't shoot Scoobs, so they could have eliminated who ever didn't get lynched today between me and Cuth. 

 

 

WTL is Willing to Lynch, we typically get 3 in order with reasoning.

 

I didnt #maths yet to see if I think shooting is a good idea or not.

 

Never lynching Linz or Cordyx.  And I'm Town and not getting ml'd.

 

Unless something crazy happens or ml;s etc I doubt I lynch Sooh.

 

If SBop and Eld arent v/v which depending on 3 Scum prolly are just v/v so not crossing that tinfoil bridge yet.

 

I think its always out of you and Cuth tomorrow baring crazy NA's.

[Hallia]

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT

 

Dar'Jen Ab Owain is stepping in for Sooh - Do not discuss subs, reminder.

[MrsClov]

The more I think about it the more I want to sort out the vig claims. 2 just seems so unlikely to me.

[Spadeszee]

The more I think about it the more I want to sort out the vig claims. 2 just seems so unlikely to me.

Bop and I shot FC. I don't see a reason why Eldrick would claim it unless he actually did as well.

 

I spoke to Bop a lot about it because it does seem really unlikely for a second vig and I had a hard time trying to understand it.

I don't know what Eldrick would get out of claiming unless he wanted to get the actual vig to reveal themselves, because that would just throw suspicion onto him (us as well, obviously). Maybe he was hoping we didn't just have one shot, and as V tried to give cover or as a W bait us out?

 

Bop and I voted on FC, Eldrick wasn't and even said he woke up at 5pm, thought about checking the thread but went back to sleep. If he had voted on FC we wouldn't have had to waste a shot on him and neither would Eldrick. This is the thing that annoys me the most about this whole situation.

[Fredwood]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I said it wasn't real and it felt more like trying to create a larger suspect list then a genuine push on me, it's in my Night 1 Wall post.

 

I will say independently that Eldrick is more likely the non-mafia in that scenario.   I don't see why Scoobs would obvspew me there though as a teammate, I was slowly creeping up lists at the time, I can't think of a good reason to impede a teammates progress there because I don't see a scenario where Scoobs honestly thinks he's outliving me.  If I was his wolf teammate in that situation I would have been so titled. 

 

I think case in point, Scoobs avoids spewing Marsh, why spew one teammate who is only slightly better off then the other? Strategically it's a bad move, he's not going to elevate Marsh there, he's only dragging down his teammate to the other's level.

 

 

It's like he's talking about the selling points of the car and how lucky the customer is to get it at this price while the customer s asking why the contract is $4 k over the price he told you, and the term is twice as long as he said but then surprises you with a witty joke and a compliment about how good you'll look in it and that should make it all better and for some it even does....

 

So the basis for my scumread is that you think I should consider a change of career?  I think if you call me a sleazy car salesman one more time I'm going to apply for a position and use your posts on my resume.

 

 

You should, you'd be good at it. it would have been GOAT tho if you actually were one tho....lolololololol

 

So what's your 3 person WTL list and why?

 

WTL? I assume you mean wolf

 

I'm really only interested in a Cuth lynch, if he's not scum I'm dead anyway.  I'm not terribly confident in creating a tinfoil rn.  I know two people are on the same you lynch town not teammates as scum, so if they were to break that trend for this game it would be disappointing (Bop and the other hydra).  Anyone else but MrsClovx I guess things could be twisted into a scum lean with enough tinfoil.  Between the rest you're in the weakest position for POE, but you also have the backing of strongest town read who has been on fire with reads, so there's no reason to doubt them now.

 

Would have been really nice if both Vigs didn't shoot Scoobs, so they could have eliminated who ever didn't get lynched today between me and Cuth. 

 

 

WTL is Willing to Lynch, we typically get 3 in order with reasoning.

 

I didnt #maths yet to see if I think shooting is a good idea or not.

 

Never lynching Linz or Cordyx.  And I'm Town and not getting ml'd.

 

Unless something crazy happens or ml;s etc I doubt I lynch Sooh.

 

If SBop and Eld arent v/v which depending on 3 Scum prolly are just v/v so not crossing that tinfoil bridge yet.

 

I think its always out of you and Cuth tomorrow baring crazy NA's.

 

 

Yeah I'm p. much there, which I'm fine with it, I'm cool with a me lynch at this point, just wish there was a way to deal with both of us without having to waste two day phases.