[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

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Ok carry on

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Killanos- Nothing is really standing out as scummy for you guys and at this stage of the game, I feel it would be. I see active posting, solving, and prodding. Its all a good look. I would like more, obviously just to be able to continue that good feeling. But I'm going to go ahead and say town. 

 

BFG- You started out with good questioning and observations. Somewhere in the middle you started asking a few too many questions without giving or contributing any real thoughts for my liking. I remember reading that as scummy in one of my last reads. Still irks me on this read-through. In fact, until page 3 of your ISO, I found your content just overall quite fluffy and meh. However, midway through page 3 you start picking up on the contribution with commentary about things, then it turns into you starting to actually read other players and giving your perspective which was a nice turnaround. You did answer me at one point why your content was so bare as far as offering substance and your posts continue to get better. 

 

[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

 Posted by BFG on Yesterday, 12:40 PM in DM Mafia Games

HARDCLAIM SURVIVOR win con F6

The wincon is important because it means I can't mafia side at lylo (since the game didn't start 8v4v1)

 

May be a stupid question with an obvious answer, but how did you know the game didn't start 8v4v1?

I'm still quite ignorant when it comes to added roles and slang and whatnot.

Your claim is distracting, but I believe you. Could be my inexperience. I could just be naive. But I think you're being honest, and well, if not I guess we will find out soon enough. There are more scummy looking people than you right now,

so I'll go after them first. For now you're null for me.

 

Cass- I ISO'd P + C for comparison. I'm not seeing much difference between the two, in fact I got confused about which game I was looking at during the ISO comparison. You were town in that one so its definitely a good look for this one.

You have been unusually quiet as of late though, so I would really like to hear where your current thoughts are on everything. Reading you as town, though. If you're wolf you've mimicked your town game I was in with you quite well.

 

Shad- Since we have time, I'm exhausted, and your ISO hurts my head, I'll do your read tomorrow. 

 

 

 

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ok so uh drunk catch-up

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Shanti I can't read that much text help

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also weird x-post after an hour of silence 

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not a shocker but links on the front page imply game will go at least until d5 aka there are 3 scum whatever BFG is

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  On 6/10/2017 at 8:14 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:31 PM, Tigraine said:

Okay so I've been in and out of service today cause I had to come do laundry at my father-in-law's house.

 

 

I've done a reads list for some not for some but I feel like atm it doesn't even matter. What matters is that Cuth/Nyn you ARE scum 100%. I think it's downright dirty to get on here and try to bring personal stuff into a conversation to hide that you are scum and honestly can't believe you haven't been called out by the mod for it. How is that not a personal attack? But I turned you two in last night instead of DPR (which I go for almost every single time I'm a cop in a game with him) because he was away and busy and I knew we had time to deal with him later. But the point is that you are mafia aligned. I really don't care that I will probably be NKed now because people getting on here and finding your personal attacks funny is so far off from what I thought the people on here were like.

 

But that being said [v] Cuth/Nyn [/v]

 

vote cuth/nyn

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:35 PM, Tigraine said:

For what it's worth, here's where I got on my reads list

 

Shad-

 

Shanti- I believe she is town. She's getting very passionate about her arguments like she did last game and she was town. I feel she would be in a lighter/less serious mood if she were scum.

 

DPR- hope his grandmother is okay. As hard as it is for me to even type these words, DPR is town/null

 

Adella- it's actually you that i meant the foreboding post for. Ill search it out and quote it for you.

 

Cuth/Nyn- 100% scum, you guys know it and I know it so no need to beat around the bush.

 

Alf-

 

Killa/Kronos- Killa, sorry that foreboding was meant for Adella. Other than that I actually kinda agree with Adella's "commentary" comment. You aren't playing like you have been and I don't know if it's because you are a Hydra or scum. You usually have much more detailed opinions.

 

Cass- I'm curious as to why you found it suspicious that Alf didn't question Dice's joke vote then wondered at why Dice himself didn't question it. He explained early enough that it was a joke why was a lack of response from either of them afterwards a deal to you? I'm not hating the rest of your gameplay, you're getting in and asking questions, asking everyone for reads list but other than quoting other and saying 'move this one here" or "drop that one there" I didn't see an actual reads list from you. Can you give us one pleeeeeaaaaasssseeee? But I am leaning heavily town on you atm because of your questioning and interactions.

 

Dice- you come in, joke vote Alf then explain that vote to Cass and then question Alf as to why he didn't question it. Had he questioned it you would've said it was scummy for questioning an obvious joke vote. The fact that you dedicated 9 or 10 of your posts to that cause wouldn't be a big deal if you had pages of posts but you don't. You have something around 25 now. So that makes it a pretty big deal imo especially when you tried to downplay it. To top that off, when I called you out on that blatant downplay, you conveniently ignore it and say I'm too focused on it. Of course I am, almost half of your post count was about that. I especially don't like that you only questioned him on it after Cass called you out on not asking. I havent took you for the type of player that reacts in that fashion to avoid suspicion. Other than that you have twice (at least) pseudo defended gameplay from Nyn who is scum

 

first off with all the colours ALL of those have been answered   for someone who knows EXACTLY how many posts i i have I hope u actually read them.

 

reds been answered  i took his post as a response. I will also thank you not to tell me what I will or will not think tyvm. You have not played with me enuff to even make a guess let alone KNOW what i would do. And for the record you are totally wrong. it all depends on HOW they respond WHEN they do it and WHAT they say, cause you know I actually READ peoples posts if im going to talk about them.

 

 

Blue  hmmm i wonder why???  would that be because some opf it was the actual conversation and then the rest is responding to people asking about the conversation? I think it is!!

 

and I will give you a really big word to the wise   if you are someone easily offended in a mafia game Id suggest you dont try me regarding post counts. Cause  as it has been before the responses will be extremely blunt. And I wont be apologetic about it.

 

purple asking the same already answered question twice in one post. seriously?? give me a break.

 

 

I'm not sure Dice takes this tone with someone he thinks is town, but he believes her claim?

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I hope someone is around to talk to me because drunk posting alone is sadface

[Shanti]

  On 6/12/2017 at 4:09 AM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 6/10/2017 at 8:14 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:31 PM, Tigraine said:

Okay so I've been in and out of service today cause I had to come do laundry at my father-in-law's house.

I've done a reads list for some not for some but I feel like atm it doesn't even matter. What matters is that Cuth/Nyn you ARE scum 100%. I think it's downright dirty to get on here and try to bring personal stuff into a conversation to hide that you are scum and honestly can't believe you haven't been called out by the mod for it. How is that not a personal attack? But I turned you two in last night instead of DPR (which I go for almost every single time I'm a cop in a game with him) because he was away and busy and I knew we had time to deal with him later. But the point is that you are mafia aligned. I really don't care that I will probably be NKed now because people getting on here and finding your personal attacks funny is so far off from what I thought the people on here were like.

But that being said [v] Cuth/Nyn [/v]

 

 

vote cuth/nyn

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:35 PM, Tigraine said:

For what it's worth, here's where I got on my reads list

Shad-

Shanti- I believe she is town. She's getting very passionate about her arguments like she did last game and she was town. I feel she would be in a lighter/less serious mood if she were scum.

DPR- hope his grandmother is okay. As hard as it is for me to even type these words, DPR is town/null

Adella- it's actually you that i meant the foreboding post for. Ill search it out and quote it for you.

Cuth/Nyn- 100% scum, you guys know it and I know it so no need to beat around the bush.

Alf-

Killa/Kronos- Killa, sorry that foreboding was meant for Adella. Other than that I actually kinda agree with Adella's "commentary" comment. You aren't playing like you have been and I don't know if it's because you are a Hydra or scum. You usually have much more detailed opinions.

Cass- I'm curious as to why you found it suspicious that Alf didn't question Dice's joke vote then wondered at why Dice himself didn't question it. He explained early enough that it was a joke why was a lack of response from either of them afterwards a deal to you? I'm not hating the rest of your gameplay, you're getting in and asking questions, asking everyone for reads list but other than quoting other and saying 'move this one here" or "drop that one there" I didn't see an actual reads list from you. Can you give us one pleeeeeaaaaasssseeee? But I am leaning heavily town on you atm because of your questioning and interactions.

Dice- you come in, joke vote Alf then explain that vote to Cass and then question Alf as to why he didn't question it. Had he questioned it you would've said it was scummy for questioning an obvious joke vote. The fact that you dedicated 9 or 10 of your posts to that cause wouldn't be a big deal if you had pages of posts but you don't. You have something around 25 now. So that makes it a pretty big deal imo especially when you tried to downplay it. To top that off, when I called you out on that blatant downplay, you conveniently ignore it and say I'm too focused on it. Of course I am, almost half of your post count was about that. I especially don't like that you only questioned him on it after Cass called you out on not asking. I havent took you for the type of player that reacts in that fashion to avoid suspicion. Other than that you have twice (at least) pseudo defended gameplay from Nyn who is scum

 

 

first off with all the colours ALL of those have been answered   for someone who knows EXACTLY how many posts i i have I hope u actually read them.

 

reds been answered  i took his post as a response. I will also thank you not to tell me what I will or will not think tyvm. You have not played with me enuff to even make a guess let alone KNOW what i would do. And for the record you are totally wrong. it all depends on HOW they respond WHEN they do it and WHAT they say, cause you know I actually READ peoples posts if im going to talk about them.

 

 

Blue  hmmm i wonder why???  would that be because some opf it was the actual conversation and then the rest is responding to people asking about the conversation? I think it is!!

 

and I will give you a really big word to the wise   if you are someone easily offended in a mafia game Id suggest you dont try me regarding post counts. Cause  as it has been before the responses will be extremely blunt. And I wont be apologetic about it.

 

purple asking the same already answered question twice in one post. seriously?? give me a break.

 

I'm not sure Dice takes this tone with someone he thinks is town, but he believes her claim?

Dice seems quite on edge, almost as if cracking under pressure

[Shanti]

Glad I didn't pick on you as I originally intended to do tonight. I need sober you for what I have to say.

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  On 6/10/2017 at 8:22 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 11:56 PM, Tigraine said:

So Dice what do you think of my claim?

 

I find it interesting cause Alignment cop is no role title ive seen  its not even listed on maifawiki  and yes i realise you may be describing it.  and then theres the fact that ure claiming a normal cop in a sooh game. When thinking about this game i totally gamed the mod in my head. in my head sooh tends to role cops and BG type roles rather then straight cop doc roles. Shes been infected by pizza after all :D   doesnt mean she WONT use a normal cop but I wouldnt expect it. .

 

As for the rest you claimed cop I vote with the cop. its pretty simple really. either we get mafia today or we get mafia tomorrow. 

 

Not sure why you want to make a big deal of what i think of ure claim but thats what i think.

 

 

ok maybe he doesn't fully believe it?

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  On 6/12/2017 at 4:12 AM, Shanti said:

Glad I didn't pick on you as I originally intended to do tonight. I need sober you for what I have to say.

 

That sounds like I'm going to get a scolding or something.

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I dunno, if Dice doesn't trust Tig I don't think he rolls with the claim anyway, I think he calls it BS. 

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Like Dice has been mislynched due to a wolf faking a red peek on him and in general he says what he's thinking and doesn't give a fffffffff

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  On 6/12/2017 at 4:13 AM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 4:12 AM, Shanti said:

Glad I didn't pick on you as I originally intended to do tonight. I need sober you for what I have to say.

 

 

That sounds like I'm going to get a scolding or something.

Lol. I guess we will have to see when I reISO you tomorrow. Hate to leave you lone posting, but I must sleep. My eyes say so.

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But then Tig claiming there makes zero sense as scum even before we had a flip on Cuthnyn

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  On 6/12/2017 at 4:15 AM, Shanti said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 4:13 AM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 4:12 AM, Shanti said:

Glad I didn't pick on you as I originally intended to do tonight. I need sober you for what I have to say.

 

That sounds like I'm going to get a scolding or something.

Lol. I guess we will have to see when I reISO you tomorrow. Hate to leave you lone posting, but I must sleep. My eyes say so.

 

 

[Shanti]

  On 6/12/2017 at 4:15 AM, Shad_ said:

Like Dice has been mislynched due to a wolf faking a red peek on him and in general he says what he's thinking and doesn't give a fffffffff

 

Soooo pretty much what you're saying is, he was claiming he didn't believe it to make himself look better, but because he's scum he knew she must be right so to look EVEN better, he voted what she voted so he could claim "why would I vote with her if I'm scum? I even doubted her claim but you always vote with the cop unless you're the cop and know they're bluffing"

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  On 6/10/2017 at 8:56 AM, dicetosser1 said:

red  im sick and tired of pushing town to lynch people i  think are scum and being ignored. Doesnt seem like enuff people think ure scum to do it so im just not gonna bother, They wake up i will happily lynch you. If i turn out to be right I will also happily tell them i told you so. If im wrong you get something else to use against me in future games.

 

blue  intro has been enuff for me to make calls on people in LOTS of games. I yelled and screamed about Tom one game but people didnt listen til late game   and i think he got peeked  ive called people town off one post.  Its got only a very little to do with logic.  the logic is anyone who does that should be auto lynched. You are tricky and ballsy enuff to do it and assume you will get away with it. The rest is my gut and my gut doesnt have logic. It jumped so ure scum. simple

ok so let's experiment here

 

ignore the wolf face and mtg card posts and drop a read on me based on my other like 300+ posts in the game

 

then go back to wtl me anyway

 

deal?

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  On 6/12/2017 at 4:17 AM, Shanti said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 4:15 AM, Shad_ said:

Like Dice has been mislynched due to a wolf faking a red peek on him and in general he says what he's thinking and doesn't give a fffffffff

 

Soooo pretty much what you're saying is, he was claiming he didn't believe it to make himself look better, but because he's scum he knew she must be right so to look EVEN better, he voted what she voted so he could claim "why would I vote with her if I'm scum? I even doubted her claim but you always vote with the cop unless you're the cop and know they're bluffing"

 

I think if he's scum he just had some cognitive dissonance between accusative tone and accusative read

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not all wolf play has a calculated purpose

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  On 6/11/2017 at 1:09 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

Not a good look. 

 

The actual point is, you spot scum and you kill scum. Letting them live a little longer never works in the Town's favor. Per her own admission, she doesn't count as as Town so resolve the spot now.

But survivors exist and aren't anti-town?

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  On 6/11/2017 at 1:10 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 6/11/2017 at 1:00 PM, BFG said:

Eldrick, what's your read on Shad?

Shad is a hard read for me.

I'm not a fan of his "Alf is scum because he's not here when he was excited". That's null to me and feels like attacking an inactive.

I don't like his vote switch at EoD1, but know that all the trains were town so the move itself is null. Could be town going with his gut or scum changing for #reasons. Leaning town on that because I know all the trains.

I don't remember anything else from him.

 

Red, literally have caught scum for the same reason before

 

It's different from generic disappearance.  It's sudden unexplained demotivation, which could be RL factor but bailing because you randed scum and no one knows who you are to shame you for it is a thing that happens.

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  On 6/11/2017 at 1:20 PM, BFG said:

Town don't win lynching survivors, they win lynching mafia. You know this, lynching me is one lynch closer to losing. The F6 part of my wincon means I can't mafia side, which means mafia want to lynch me as that moves closer to their wincon

 

So [v]DPR[/v]

I don't understand why this means you can't scum-side but I don't really think it's relevant because you don't control our votes and we know you aren't town?

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  On 6/11/2017 at 1:21 PM, BFG said:

Ebwop

That's a ballsy as f edit if you're scum and I don't think you'd be the sort to calculate it so I'm going to wager it's honest