[Basic] Peg + Cat Mafia -- TOWN WIN

Spadeszee · May 23, 2017

Oh geez. Everyone at one time or another in my reread pointed a finger at me. I'm done with this. I'm officially quitting. It's no longer fun. I can't get my head straight, I have a huge migraine. Enjoy, guys.

We're you just criticizing Elrick for doing this exact thing???

I questioned him and I questioned him HARD. Then you know what he did? He made cases for everyone, and that included you. He made sense of things, unlike you right now.

If you take a second to make a case (you're going to have to decide which of the three, you can just say everyone but you, not how it works), Take a few deep breaths and look at this from a clear perspective, you might be able to move opinions.

Your reaction right now? You're throwing a fit, not trying to game solve and it's a really bad look. Accusing people of cheating? Thats just really low.

I started with a clear perspective, but every. single. thing that I say is being mangled and twisted and overanalyzed and its getting ridiculous. I'm NEW I'm HUNGOVER, I can barely open my eyes to look at the darn screen yet I was fighting but it was all for naught. I didn't want to accuse you of cheating, truly I didn't. But that is HOW IT CAME OFF to me. I'm throwing a fit because my character is being torn to shreds, it has before but not like this, this feels different and it is something I am not enjoying, so hell yeah I'm jumping ship. Eld has been doing it from the start, I'm doing it now when everything I say is being turned negative. When you stop enjoying something why on Earth would you continue to do it? That is the definition of insanity...to continue to do something and expect a different outcome. I could sit here and argue until I'm blue in the face and it won't do me a lick of good.

This is what happens when you're accused of being a wolf at the end of the game. This is crunch time. This is win of lose.

I was going to 100% vote Eldrick today. Guess what, now I want to vote you BECAUSE he did work.

You're just half awake posting? Guess what, we have the rest of today and most of tomorrow on the clock still. Get some rest, take a shower then come back once you can get your story straight. I'm not here to push people into corners and keep them there. I'm giving you a chance to make an argument for whoever you see as most wolfy, the same as what I did for Eldrick.

My other thought is I don't think a single other player thought we were cheating. Not one. If you are the wolf, it makes sense to be confused as to why people seem to be banding together (when you didn't pick up on Hallias careful wording), it would look like cheating to someone. Your sister has been town reading you and trying to come up with reasons why you're town, does that mean you two shared your roles? No. I have wrote a lot about Hallia, I know her personally and I played a game along-side her. Her activity heavily weighs on her alignment. I also do NOT thing she is capable of bussing, because she is a wonderful person and she hates lying and being deceitful. I listened to everyone saying Hallia was trying to pocket me and looking at her gameplay I thought she was either scum or the seer (or Tress as seer) by how she worded things. I think from a wolf perspective, you are picking things out that nobody else would notice. Nobody would even think about others cheating, it's just not what you do. Why didn't you just think we were wolf partners? Wouldn't that be the logical conclusion if you aren't a wolf? You voted Darthe, not us? See, this is just so strange to hear. Why did your brain go to cheating, not wolfs?

Spadeszee · May 23, 2017

Shanti, stop taking this so personally. This is a game. You make arguments about people here and they don't take it as you coming for them personally, they see it as them trying to win this game.

Shanti · May 23, 2017

Oh geez. Everyone at one time or another in my reread pointed a finger at me. I'm done with this. I'm officially quitting. It's no longer fun. I can't get my head straight, I have a huge migraine. Enjoy, guys.

We're you just criticizing Elrick for doing this exact thing???

I questioned him and I questioned him HARD. Then you know what he did? He made cases for everyone, and that included you. He made sense of things, unlike you right now.

If you take a second to make a case (you're going to have to decide which of the three, you can just say everyone but you, not how it works), Take a few deep breaths and look at this from a clear perspective, you might be able to move opinions.

Your reaction right now? You're throwing a fit, not trying to game solve and it's a really bad look. Accusing people of cheating? Thats just really low.

I started with a clear perspective, but every. single. thing that I say is being mangled and twisted and overanalyzed and its getting ridiculous. I'm NEW I'm HUNGOVER, I can barely open my eyes to look at the darn screen yet I was fighting but it was all for naught. I didn't want to accuse you of cheating, truly I didn't. But that is HOW IT CAME OFF to me. I'm throwing a fit because my character is being torn to shreds, it has before but not like this, this feels different and it is something I am not enjoying, so hell yeah I'm jumping ship. Eld has been doing it from the start, I'm doing it now when everything I say is being turned negative. When you stop enjoying something why on Earth would you continue to do it? That is the definition of insanity...to continue to do something and expect a different outcome. I could sit here and argue until I'm blue in the face and it won't do me a lick of good.

This is what happens when you're accused of being a wolf at the end of the game. This is crunch time. This is win of lose.

I was going to 100% vote Eldrick today. Guess what, now I want to vote you BECAUSE he did work.

You're just half awake posting? Guess what, we have the rest of today and most of tomorrow on the clock still. Get some rest, take a shower then come back once you can get your story straight. I'm not here to push people into corners and keep them there. I'm giving you a chance to make an argument for whoever you see as most wolfy, the same as what I did for Eldrick.

My other thought is I don't think a single other player thought we were cheating. Not one. If you are the wolf, it makes sense to be confused as to why people seem to be banding together (when you didn't pick up on Hallias careful wording), it would look like cheating to someone. Your sister has been town reading you and trying to come up with reasons why you're town, does that mean you two shared your roles? No. I have wrote a lot about Hallia, I know her personally and I played a game along-side her. Her activity heavily weighs on her alignment. I also do NOT thing she is capable of bussing, because she is a wonderful person and she hates lying and being deceitful. I listened to everyone saying Hallia was trying to pocket me and looking at her gameplay I thought she was either scum or the seer (or Tress as seer) by how she worded things. I think from a wolf perspective, you are picking things out that nobody else would notice. Nobody would even think about others cheating, it's just not what you do. Why didn't you just think we were wolf partners? Wouldn't that be the logical conclusion if you aren't a wolf? You voted Darthe, not us? See, this is just so strange to hear. Why did your brain go to cheating, not wolfs?

Because my brain went there AFTER she flipped town

Songstress · May 23, 2017

We have time, and only one mislynch left. I'd rather use the time to make sure we get it right today, personally.

Shanti · May 23, 2017

Shanti, stop taking this so personally. This is a game. You make arguments about people here and they don't take it as you coming for them personally, they see it as them trying to win this game.

Easier said than done as it turns out.

Spadeszee · May 23, 2017

Oh geez. Everyone at one time or another in my reread pointed a finger at me. I'm done with this. I'm officially quitting. It's no longer fun. I can't get my head straight, I have a huge migraine. Enjoy, guys.

We're you just criticizing Elrick for doing this exact thing???

I questioned him and I questioned him HARD. Then you know what he did? He made cases for everyone, and that included you. He made sense of things, unlike you right now.

If you take a second to make a case (you're going to have to decide which of the three, you can just say everyone but you, not how it works), Take a few deep breaths and look at this from a clear perspective, you might be able to move opinions.

Your reaction right now? You're throwing a fit, not trying to game solve and it's a really bad look. Accusing people of cheating? Thats just really low.

I started with a clear perspective, but every. single. thing that I say is being mangled and twisted and overanalyzed and its getting ridiculous. I'm NEW I'm HUNGOVER, I can barely open my eyes to look at the darn screen yet I was fighting but it was all for naught. I didn't want to accuse you of cheating, truly I didn't. But that is HOW IT CAME OFF to me. I'm throwing a fit because my character is being torn to shreds, it has before but not like this, this feels different and it is something I am not enjoying, so hell yeah I'm jumping ship. Eld has been doing it from the start, I'm doing it now when everything I say is being turned negative. When you stop enjoying something why on Earth would you continue to do it? That is the definition of insanity...to continue to do something and expect a different outcome. I could sit here and argue until I'm blue in the face and it won't do me a lick of good.

This is what happens when you're accused of being a wolf at the end of the game. This is crunch time. This is win of lose.

I was going to 100% vote Eldrick today. Guess what, now I want to vote you BECAUSE he did work.

You're just half awake posting? Guess what, we have the rest of today and most of tomorrow on the clock still. Get some rest, take a shower then come back once you can get your story straight. I'm not here to push people into corners and keep them there. I'm giving you a chance to make an argument for whoever you see as most wolfy, the same as what I did for Eldrick.

My other thought is I don't think a single other player thought we were cheating. Not one. If you are the wolf, it makes sense to be confused as to why people seem to be banding together (when you didn't pick up on Hallias careful wording), it would look like cheating to someone. Your sister has been town reading you and trying to come up with reasons why you're town, does that mean you two shared your roles? No. I have wrote a lot about Hallia, I know her personally and I played a game along-side her. Her activity heavily weighs on her alignment. I also do NOT thing she is capable of bussing, because she is a wonderful person and she hates lying and being deceitful. I listened to everyone saying Hallia was trying to pocket me and looking at her gameplay I thought she was either scum or the seer (or Tress as seer) by how she worded things. I think from a wolf perspective, you are picking things out that nobody else would notice. Nobody would even think about others cheating, it's just not what you do. Why didn't you just think we were wolf partners? Wouldn't that be the logical conclusion if you aren't a wolf? You voted Darthe, not us? See, this is just so strange to hear. Why did your brain go to cheating, not wolfs?

Because my brain went there AFTER she flipped town

She said it in the chat! She n0 peeked LZM, DEFENDED HIM when people were trying to vote him, sticking so hard to her guns. She n1 peeked me and declared me as her next peek, I know I'm town so I know that is accurate.

She stuck to her guns on LZM and said "Guys, do I really have to say this? Don't vote LZM!"

I kept a close list of everyone peeks, at that point, only Tress, Hallia and I had continued seer cover. It was between Tress and Hallia.

And with that, Hallia didn't get NK? With your logic, wouldn't that make it more probable that she was a wolf lying? I am still so completely confused as to how a town, reading the thread could come to these conclusions. It doesn't seem right at all to me. You're also saying I wasn't wolf reading Hallia? You sure you ISO'ed me?

Spadeszee · May 23, 2017

We have time, and only one mislynch left. I'd rather use the time to make sure we get it right today, personally.

Not a fan of hammering until everyone has a chance to put their best foot forward.

Spadeszee · May 23, 2017

@Tigs What does your sisters reactions say to you? I want both sides of the coin.

Spadeszee · May 23, 2017

Shanti, stop taking this so personally. This is a game. You make arguments about people here and they don't take it as you coming for them personally, they see it as them trying to win this game.

Easier said than done as it turns out.

You voted people out, you made cases against others as well. They are allowed to do the same as you, think of it this way.

Shanti · May 23, 2017

Shanti, stop taking this so personally. This is a game. You make arguments about people here and they don't take it as you coming for them personally, they see it as them trying to win this game.

Easier said than done as it turns out.

You voted people out, you made cases against others as well. They are allowed to do the same as you, think of it this way.

I agree and it hasn't bothered me until today. Not sure what has changed. Could be outside of game stressors and judgment I recently received, I need to take a big step back and calm down and sober up all the way.

Spadeszee · May 23, 2017

Shanti, stop taking this so personally. This is a game. You make arguments about people here and they don't take it as you coming for them personally, they see it as them trying to win this game.

Easier said than done as it turns out.

You voted people out, you made cases against others as well. They are allowed to do the same as you, think of it this way.

I agree and it hasn't bothered me until today. Not sure what has changed. Could be outside of game stressors and judgment I recently received, I need to take a big step back and calm down and sober up all the way.

Sounds like a good plan :)

Shanti · May 23, 2017

I am alive, for real this time. I slept it off.

I began to re-ISO and I realized that for some reason it isn't working correctly for me. I can't see the first few days.

Therefore, I owe Spades a giant apology for the cheating comment. I decided to start from day one and read every page of the currently 76,

I got to see information that I somehow missed multiple times. So I hope you accept that.

I also want to comment again on how scummy EVERYONE seems. Goodness.

Shanti · May 23, 2017

Eld, you're scummy scum scummmmmm in my re-read right now.

Shanti · May 23, 2017

Also, just want to point out that I placed my vote on Alex, was active throughout the entire day, never removed that vote and actually kept reiterating why I was voting for him. That is not a bus move, that is a lynching scum move. And it was a darn good one at that.

Tigraine · May 23, 2017

I agree and it hasn't bothered me until today. Not sure what has changed. Could be outside of game stressors and judgment I recently received, I need to take a big step back and calm down and sober up all the way.

I do know what has changed, this is the absolute only time during this game that anyone has really went after you.

You didnt act like this last game when anyone challenged you and let's face it, you drink a lot so that's no excuse. You lost your sh** sister and I think it's because you may be scum.

I'm trying very hard not to remember that time I caught you marking all over the faces of my friends' yearbook photos and how mad you got, you yelled AT ME and gave me the silent treatment for two days :laugh:

You don't like getting caught and it's seeming maybe thats the deal here.

Spadeszee · May 23, 2017

I am alive, for real this time. I slept it off.

I began to re-ISO and I realized that for some reason it isn't working correctly for me. I can't see the first few days.

Therefore, I owe Spades a giant apology for the cheating comment. I decided to start from day one and read every page of the currently 76,

I got to see information that I somehow missed multiple times. So I hope you accept that.

I also want to comment again on how scummy EVERYONE seems. Goodness.

Thank you, I appreciate it.

And yes, this game is weird, I only village read Tress out of you three.

Spadeszee · May 23, 2017

I agree and it hasn't bothered me until today. Not sure what has changed. Could be outside of game stressors and judgment I recently received, I need to take a big step back and calm down and sober up all the way.

I do know what has changed, this is the absolute only time during this game that anyone has really went after you.

You didnt act like this last game when anyone challenged you and let's face it, you drink a lot so that's no excuse. You lost your sh** sister and I think it's because you may be scum.

I'm trying very hard not to remember that time I caught you marking all over the faces of my friends' yearbook photos and how mad you got, you yelled AT ME and gave me the silent treatment for two days

You don't like getting caught and it's seeming maybe thats the deal here.

I was waiting for someone else to point out her being village read up to this point and how intense her reaction was. Also good insight from her last game.

Still waiting to see what she can pull up for you or Eldrick that hasn't already been said

Shanti · May 23, 2017

Posted by Eldrick4221 on 17 May 2017 - 04:23 PM in DM Mafia Games

If Darthe wasn't my peek, I'd still call him town. He's been aloof and not trying to control the thread. Those are good points for him.

I get that it's part of the setup, but I don't like to lie as town.

Darthe wasn't really my peek. It's been bugging me that he thought I was trying to pocket him. I know that he knows how this setup works. I don't get his reaction. I'm starting to think he might be scum.

Your tone about Darthe up until this point was that he was reading town. That he was "aloof and not trying to control the thread" as you said many times but then he openly denied your "pocket attempt" and that peeved you (distancing from Darthe?). Your tone changed and this is around the time Darthe fell off the game thread... so maybe you voted him radomly

Posted by Eldrick4221 on 20 May 2017 - 12:23 AM in DM Mafia Games

Vote: darthe

Mostly gut. Mainly because of how he handled my peek of him.

And blamed it on his reaction. He was inactive, so he wouldn't make a fight, which you would know if you were both in the QT together, so you voted him to give yourself a leg up.

Shanti · May 23, 2017

[v] Eld [/v]

Shanti · May 23, 2017

Can't really find anything overly wolfy on Tigs, she has my suspicions as does Tress, but same goes for her, not really too much wolf. Eld, however, is my top pick after my last read through.

GTH or otherwise.... Eld is scum IMO

Tigraine · May 23, 2017

Sister I love you, truly I do but your reaction here has hit me harder than the stuff about Eldrick. I'm hesitant to take that step and invite him again because I feel like its a nonstop thing but your reaction to having a finger pointed at you is a so over the top. Especially when I know you CAN act fine under pressure.

[V] unvote [/v]

[V] Shanti [/v]

Tigraine · May 23, 2017

Sister I love you, truly I do but your reaction here has hit me harder than the stuff about Eldrick. I'm hesitant to take that step and invite him again because I feel like its a nonstop thing but your reaction to having a finger pointed at you is a so over the top. Especially when I know you CAN act fine under pressure.

[V] unvote [/v]

[V] Shanti [/v]

Tigraine · May 23, 2017

Omg I hate gas station wifi

Shanti · May 24, 2017

Eld I also noticed you DID start out with your vote on Alex, but as he was being scum read more and more you suddenly switch directions even though you were seriously scum reading him at first. Even after going after him for a bit, you seemed to ignore his scumminess and scumread randoms all the way to deadline. You changed your vote a couple of times after switching from him, but before that you stayed on him for quite a while. Not as long as I did, obviously....so maybe you were the one bussing earlier on while it was safe?

Shanti · May 24, 2017

Yay finally daytime.

Thank you RNG gods for killing scum instead of me.

Should have stuck with Alex to begin with.

And this was your response to him being lynched and being scum. You had PLENTY of time to vote him and chose not to.

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