Here we go again.... I did not want to get into this. Well if you think that's true, as a woman myself, who was born in a muslim country and had to face ignorant Men trying to dictate her life, I disagree with you wholeheartedly. I understand the women's pov( aes sedais to maidens), and would've thought the same if it was a man who was anyone other than Rand Al'Thor. But even after reading and knowing his mind and inner turmoils if you still do not understand him; well If RJ couldn't convince you, what can a lowly reader like me do? Everyone has their own opinions, and are entiltled to it. So i would just leave it at that. If you disagree please go to another post and rant.

@Scarloc99 THISSSSSSSS Thank you! I appreciate you! 🙏

I also want to point out the fact that they didn’t really go anywhere with this Alanna vileness. It just another way to make rand hate the aes sedais. Which was kinda made unnecessary, as the box would serve as a solid reminder of Moiraine's words of not to trust any aes sedais. Well not unnecessary, but to play the force bonding card twice within 2 books, with two of the main characters just seemed repetitive. Rand AND Lan got forced bonded. The wo real gentlemen! Come on robert! Are you saying being a decent man with immense respect for women will get you raped? That's what bothered me. And they didn't go anywhere with it. And I saw some people pointed out it gave rand the warder benefits. Yea maybe getting the girls to bond him should've been done earlier. Anyway, thats my thoughts on that vileness with Alanna. I know not very well thought out, but I just woke up, and every time I remember that it just boils my brain.

Exactly 💯

Thank you for strengthening my case! ❤️

I loved joline_mat_teslyn_edisina_ & the suldams interactions. That was a very good way to show Mat with aes sedais. Him, unlike perrin and rand, mostly escaped interacting with aes sedai in earlier books. So it was very refreshing to see Mat with not only different factions of Aes sedai trying to maneuver, but also be a buffer between two different race(type) of channelers. I still think it was the creator's funniest joke on Mat that He saddled him (mat) with an unwilling channeler. Mat finally meeting the daughter of nine moons is one of my favorite aspect of his story line. That says a lot as I relate to him the most amongst the 5. I love all his storylines.

Yes, I do agree that making everyone like alaana would make it an orgy ajah. But that's what the show is it making out to be 😕 and if you have noticed I mentioned only the two others who kind of are like Show Alanna. I didn't mention she will replace all other greens. I mean i could've said she will replace Careane Fransi but i didn’t. Or merise for that matter, like someone in my post mentioned. The reason of my speculation is purely for the sake of them bringing forth the thing with Lan. And the logistics of casting people to play essentially the same kind of roles. Sleete is a very different person and his relationship with Hattori is an exceptional example of how greens should be.

Ohh ohh I didn't think of Merise (yes, my beautiful one) Haindehl. Why are green always so creepy with their warders 🤣🤣? but yea, if they deecide to move her to that part of the story, then I think merise instead of joline. Good point.

I hope is it Rand 🙏 i always thought that was extremely unnecessary.

Thanks you for this post! And your words about, this is not a place where you can just hate on the show. I appreciate that and you for saying it. I disagree with a lot but i still think the show has potential. And the fact that they are pulling on from the future storylines, and the characters arc. I completely agree with what you said about Nynaeve. The way she treats the 4 in the show, it really reflects a more mature nynaeve. Just the way she touched Mat's head in the last scene. This is nynaeve on the inside, beneath the hard shell. I think this is what RJ has been trying paint for Nynaeve to feel like.

My prediction: Alanna going to also take on the role of Myrelle and then Joline. This way they would not need to recast multiple greens, and use Priyanka Bose as a series regular. The reason they are building her up so much, well other than the fact I would rather not mention involving Rand, is she will embody and represent most of the greens(with multiple warders) in the book. P.s. Please no hate, just speculate with me. I know the show is not what we would've rather have. But I just wanna have a conversation.

I don't even know where to start, tbh. I have never role played. For now I am just here to talk, and listen to people talk - about my most favorite story of all time. Robert rewrote my brain basically, and how I think both as a reader, and writer. His story made me grow as a person. But, I am so intrigued by your experience, thank you for sharing! ❤️

Same my friend- up to lord of chaos:: I've read them how many times, I've lost count. Crown to Knife maybe half of that count. 🤔 But honestly never even looked for a community to join, been obsessing over it just my myself for YEARS, until yesterday. Don't know what made me join (maybe the TV show, oh i wonder why?). But I am glad I did, as i am absolutely loving the discussions.

@Elgee You are right, the whole time i was writing this speculation i kept thinking about the "thin gold ring". The things is I always interpreted that Cadsuane is like Sorilia (not in power) and I really was hoping the aes sedais, unknowingly doing something that I absolutely love about the wise ones. How women are treated( and revered) based on their merit (and strength 💪 of character) and not on their "strength in power". Ah well, it can still be my headcanon. 🫠 Also, thank you so much for taking your time and indulging me and my speculation. This has been great! ❤️

You do realize why though? It is because of her "well" and the shrike. And the fact that Cadsuane is a "strong" women in the sense of being equal to Sorelia in strength of character. And also because her of Age. Cadsuane pretends to be very strong, and no one contradicts her, everyone who knew her when she was younger is dead. She started collecting those ornaments right after she gained shawl "at the black hills" or at least that was hinted at one of those rare Cadsune POVs. The aes sedais didn't even know what a Well was until "lews therin rand" pointed it out - it is a "paralis net". Or am i remembering that wrong? So it is safe to presume they thought she was very strong but infact she isn't without her ornaments?

Thank you so much for clarifying it. I really thought i was losing my mind. I remember her giving him the "fat man angreal" or whatever the equivalent of it in the show. At this point in the story she should have the "Robed woman angreal" which she used in two rivers fight on winternight. But the show didn't make it clear as far as I know. Please tell me if I am wrong? The thing is She CAN be an overpowered channeler with the robed women, or her "ivory bracelet" angreal. The strength of the latter almost equals an sa'angreal. Moiraine's strength in power equals to Siuan, Elida, and I think lelaine and romanda. Even Cadsuane is not on their level without her Shrike. And we know the shrike is not very powerful but it lets Cadsuane face some male channelers on equal footing. That was what I wanted to bring forth in my speculation. Giving the showrunners a loophole they can exploit, that can make Moiraine look a little less jarring on screen. Also to distinguish the new generation of girls (our girls) : Egwene_Elayne_Aviendha Because Moiraine can be at their level with an angreal, however if they were on equal footing "our girls" will wipe the floor with Moiraine. Not even gonna mention Nynaeve without her block. It would not be fair to put her against any of the above mentioned girls.

@finnsss22 see I don't even remember! Which episode 🤔? I need to rewatch season one. Damn, I didn't realize it was that unremarkable! I can remember adley had thick eyebrows and hopwil had a big nose, but i can't remember Moiraine using an angreal on a visual media? Light help you, Rafe Judkins.

Prediction: The showrunners will reveal Moiraine already had her angreal. And whatever she is doing can be easily explained. Honestly it would make sense for this version to have the angreal. I hope they address this. Is it a cop out? I don't know, but for real, they need to explain Moiraine's ability. And bring that storyline from book 13. They need to establish she IS NOT as strong as the girls (Egwene, Elayne, Aviendha) let alone Nynaeve! They need to make it clear because the audiences are not aware of it at all.

Could be a complete speculation honestly, and I want people to tell me if this is wishful thinking but do you think Elayne just bonded Rand on the season 2 finale? I have a feeling they are bringing/replacing the Birgitte Bonding story line forward? I mean if you notice the weaves passed between Lan and Moiraine in the scene where she reopens the bond, and there was a weave for a moment that passed from elaine to rand, it looked identical. It could just be they are using all 5 elements and mistook that as warder bond weave. However, even Nynaeve can't heal a wound from shaddar logath dagger. It was Flinn and the two yellows together that saved Rand, when he got stabbed by it. This is not a wound that can be healed with only saidar, it needs saidin as well. I DON'T KNOW but I have a feeling they might just make the storyline where only reason Elayne could heal him is because she tethered Rand to her life-force. What do you think 🤔?

It's not very clear, i have to agree with @Godoggo. As much as I would like to support the show this is not made very clear. Also the fact that the sexes can not see each other's weaves. Though i think the show did a good job at showing the different elements (season 2) with colors which i think is very clever. And the fact that to the audience's eyes we will see both weaves and we can make the connection that they are infact channeling and drawing powers from the same elememts (earth, fire, air, water, and spirit). I think Jordan made it clear about the fact that the channelers can see and distinguish between the elements being used. So to translate it to visual media their use of color for each elements would work very well. But they need to make it clear to the audience that saidin and saidar even though the same but they are also different just because of your gender. Just like human beings, male or female we are still homo sapiens. It's funny in the age of gender politics Jordan's idea may sound very gender specific but that the story He was telling. If you don't like it then don't make it or better write your own story. Just don't eleminate a crucial idea of the story. Sorry for the rant. But thanks for letting me share my thoughts.