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S3E4 - The Road to the Spear
DigificWriter replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
It can definitely be difficult to remember the individual titles of specific episodes since they're not displayed onscreen. -
S3E4 - The Road to the Spear
DigificWriter replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
I'm referring to the Cold Open of Episode 1x08 (The Eye of the World) where we get a glimpse of a very peaceful futuristic society outside the window of Lews' daughter's nursery. I'm also referring to the tenor and substance of Lews and Latra's conversation from that same Cold Open, which indicates a lack of urgency in needing to deal with the 'problem' of the Dark One touching the world. Edit: Ninja'd -
S3E4 - The Road to the Spear
DigificWriter replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
I can't remember exactly where I got the number 500 from, but it's specific enough that I couldn't have come up with it on my own. Even if there wasn't 500 years between the Bore and Lews' attempt to cage the Dark One in-show, the Cold Open to The Eye of the World does still imply that, aside from the presence of the Forsaken, things were fairly calm until Lews did what he did. -
S3E4 - The Road to the Spear
DigificWriter replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
The bolded ilis exactly what I was getting at. I think that the show implies that, aside from the presence of the Forsaken and whatever chaos and unrest they caused, there wasn't actually any urgency - even 500 years after the Bore - to deal with things vis a vis the Dark One touching the world until Lews decided to just do so with or without the support of Latra and the female Aes Sedai, which paints the dramatic immediate effect of the Bore itself - the black tendrils and the crashing of the Charom - in a very different light than I think book fans - regardless of their positive or negative feelings about the show - may have considered. -
S3E4 - The Road to the Spear
DigificWriter replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
I don't know why it slipped my mind to comment on this earlier, but for all of the dramatic chaos that the Bore initially caused, its long-term impact on the world in the show was implied to actually be pretty minimal until Lews decided to go try to reseal the Dark One's Prison 500 years later. -
LOL. You're not wrong. Concern retracted.
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A Promo Poster does not always - or always have to - be reflective or representative of a season's plot or story.
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Moiraine's death is definitely happening by the end of the season, but I really don't think they're going to kill Siuan too once they do get to the Tower Coup (which I really don't believe is happening this season even though they're heavily setting it up). Permanently killing Moiraine (which is what I'm beginning to heavily suspect they're going to do) is likely going to inevitably get some people criticizing the show for running afoul of the "bury your gays" trope, and killing off Siuan as well would only fuel the fire of that discourse, which wouldn't be helpful for the show.
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Love doesn't adhere to logic. Yes, Rand knows all of those things; they aren't going to stop his love for her, though, because you can't just cut love off like you're snapping your fingers.
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I believe that Sony Pictures Television, not Amazon, is the primary rights holder along with iWot, which puts the onus of renewal in their hands.
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I'll unequivocally apologize for characterizing some posters' tone and tenor as ignorant. I am sorry for that word choice.
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Storytelling is not objectively good or bad in and of itself because those terms are not in and of themselves objective. The execution of certain things is not going to land for every single person who watches the show, but poor execution of a thing does not invalidate the thing itself or reflect negatively on the decision-making process that accompanied its inclusion. As an example, some of the book fans I follow had issues with the execution of the practical processes that were used to transform Josha into some of his ancestors, but that doesn't mean that it was a mistake to even ask him to play all of his ancestors in the first place. Because they come across that way to others. This viewpoint comes across as very ignorant because it is absolutely and inherently impossible for an adaptor to not infuse the thing they are adapting with their own personal interests, beliefs, interpretation of social Mores, and the constraints and mechanics of the medium they are working with.
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The individuals who run this very website are not fools just because they hold a viewpoint that is different from yours. Nor are the likes of Rob (Malkier Talks), Mat Hatch (The Innkeeper from The Dusty Wheel), Jon from WoT Up, KritterXD, Winespring Cafe, Ta'varen Tavern from X/TikTok/The Wheel & Chill Show, Lezbi Nerdy, Kevin Angus, Rebecca from Reading the Pattern, Lauren from Unraveling the Pattern, Jess from The Amrylin's Study, Dani and Brett from The Wheel Weaves Podcast, and Rhuarc and Saimma (the book fan hosts of the Watch Party Wheel of Time Podcast).
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Yes. And the majority of the die-hard book fans who produce WoT content online that I follow share that point of view.
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You are assuming that those 4 characters' dalliances with members of the same sex absolutely and binarily defines their sexual orientation in a way that it does not. You also come across as being ignorant of the fact that Moiraine and Siuan's romantic relationship is absolutely present in one of the novels and that the novels also very heavily imply that there was a romantic and sexual aspect to Aviendha and Elayne's relationship in the novels. The tone and tenor of your posts quite frequently gives off the impression that you view each and every decision that the show's writers have made through a lens that is clouded by a presumption that said decisions were inarguably wrong. The tone and tenor of your posts also quite frequently gives off the impression that you do not understand - or are not willing to take into account - the ways in which each and every decision that the show's writers have made are shaped and driven by the same things - their own personal interests and beliefs, the social Mores of the time, and the medium in which they are working - that drove Robert Jordan and/or do not believe that they should be afforded the freedom to be driven by said things.
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My personal point of view is driven by far more than my having taken creative writing courses. As I have previously noted, a large portion of my analysis of the series and the creative processes behind it - and, in turn, my dismissal of complaints that run directly afoul of and contrary to that analysis - is fueled by my having worked directly in concert with an experienced Freelance television writer and the numerous things that I learned from him. Also, none of my commentary is - or has been - a direct attack on posters whose complaints I disagree with or believe to be demonstrably bad-faith arguments borne of ignorance.
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This comment demonstrates another common misconception about the Hobbit films and their development process, one that, again, can be dispelled through a deep dive into the behind-the-scenes Appendices material.
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Which shows your ignorance (IMO) and also demonstrates an unwillingness to accept that the decisions that have been made were made in good faith. This comment demonstrates a common misconception about the Hobbit Trilogy that has sadly contributed to it being viewed as a 'lesser' work than the LotR Trilogy. If you dive deep and delve into the behind-the-scenes Appendices material associated with the Hobbit films, you will discover that only 1/4 of the Trilogy's cumulative runtime is filled by story ideas that were added through reshoots and Pickups, and that there is actually only a handful of material from that remaining 3/4 of narrative runtime that is filled by things that came purely from the imaginations of the filmmakers.
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When the series was being developed, there was a point where the Yellow Ajah sister Valda killed was named Chesmal Emry, and when he found this out, Rafe went apoplectic and used the phrasing 'Chesmal Emry' in his response, and the fandom has turned said phrasing into a meme. My point, though, was that were the accusation that the show is just "tossing in changes for the sake of change" true, Rafe would not have responded the way that he did. Not having patience for complaints that i believe have little actual validity based on my own personal experiences and understanding doesn't make me an "apologist". Also, I will absolutely criticize the show if/when criticism is actually warranted, as I did when I commented in the discussion thread for " The Road to the Spear" that it had not been made clear enough in the show that Reincarnation was not explicitly tied to blood ancestry, which in turn led to my absolute confusion and cognitive dissonance vis a vis Rand's story in that episode both in general and in specific with regards to his seeing the Bore through the eyes of Charn. The difference, however, is that, rather than simply attacking the competence of the writers, I sought out explanations for the things about which I was confused, and then used those explanations to respectfully point out/comment on a way in which the writing had failed.
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I can't believe I'm about to reference a fandom meme, but if the writers were truly "tossing in changes just to have change", Rafe would've let the Yellow Ajah Sister whom Valda burned at the stake in Episode 1x02 be named 'Chesmal Emry'. Every single thing that the show does is calculated and serves a purpose, be it to flesh out the world-building and Lore, serve as an Easter Egg, flesh out or develop characterization, or help facilitate storytelling, just to name a few considerations. Nearly every time someone with a negative view of the show makes a comment, they continually demonstrate just how ignorant they are when it comes to storytelling, and also that they've taken the way that Robert Jordan chose to tell his story - which was shaped and dictated by his own personal interests and beliefs, the social Mores of the time, and the Literary medium - as if it's some 'Holy' blueprint that can't be deviated from.
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Thoughts and comments on the episode: * In-universe, it's been at least two years since the events of Shadow's Waiting, so Moiraine isn't wrong. * I'm not sure that I believe that the dreams of her friends that Egwene entered are actually things that they would've been dreaming about given the current circumstances that they're in, but that's entirely a 'me' issue. * The further we get into the season, the more convinced I'm becoming of two things: 1) Moiraine is dying permanently 2) Rafe and his team are saving the Tower Coup for a future season * Valda needs to die... slowly and painfully * I'm almost 100% positive that the Grey Man who attacked Elaida was Jaichim
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S3 is losing viewers says Samba
DigificWriter replied to books of Robert Jordan's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Rafe and his team likely already know with certainty what the actual chances of a renewal are, and I honestly don't think they're as dire as some other people might be imagining that they are. -
S3 is losing viewers says Samba
DigificWriter replied to books of Robert Jordan's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
It isn't, though. Television shows being renewed either before or during the broadcast of their current seasons, while more common now than it has been in the past, is still not Standard Operating Procedure for the TV industry, which normally only makes renewal and cancellation announcements in May at the Upfronts. -
S3 is losing viewers says Samba
DigificWriter replied to books of Robert Jordan's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
It really shows how desperate some of the people who don't like the show are when they are grasping at 'doomsaying'. The show isn't nearly in as much danger as some people think - or are, unfortunately, hoping - that it is. -
S3E4 - The Road to the Spear
DigificWriter replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
The show made it pretty obvious* what it was going for re: The Song through both its score (the Aiel harvest song plays underneath the scene where the ancestors of the Tuatha'uan break away from the 'True Aiel") and the fact that the Previously On very specifically included the discussions about The Song from A Place of Safety. * although apparently not obvious enough given the pushback on the subject that I referenced