1 minute ago, Maximillion said:

Feels like he is very much a support actor so far.

Good observation. The creators are doing their jobs. Thanks for the endorsement.

1 minute ago, fra85uk said:

Well, EotW is a pretty nice book full of adventure and tension. I don't think that a closer adaptation (which does not mean 1:1) would have been not entertaining for the viewers. 

Many Book readers consider it among the weakest Books. I'll have a fuller response when I work out whether that's a double negative or a triple negative.

Just now, Maximillion said:

So the essence of WoT doesn’t include Rand as a major character??

hmm

If a reaction is so far off the point, what's the best response? Hope.

3 minutes ago, Agitel said:

My first watch is stream of consciousness "that's not in the books that's not in the books that's not in the books."

I suggest you compartmentalize. It's not the Book, but as an experiment, try "I'm going to think of it as a stand-alone story, that allows me another visit to the world of WoT." 

Just now, Finfolfin said:

Rand is not a side character in EotW.

I'll alert the media. Now, remind me why Season 1 of the Amazon Series, has to hew to EotW, rather convey the essence of WoT in a manner entertaining to the viewers. 

2 minutes ago, Wolfbrother31 said:

Reviews from New York Times, NPR, and Rolling Stone all negative. 

Seen a few positive ones too but not from big sources...

Check the reviews from LoTR in that time of innocence. The only good review was from the LAT, a critic who has since retired. 

5 minutes ago, RhienneAgain said:

Rand feels like a side character at this point.

Rand is a side character at this point. If he were the main character at the get-go, people would be complaining that there was no "character arc." It remains to be seen, but this is the way good stories start.

1 minute ago, Maximillion said:

the audience score has dropped to 78%

A great score to drop to.

1 minute ago, Maximillion said:

You are referring to the critics score, which is fabricated.

A fabrication.

1 minute ago, fra85uk said:

All the scene is so badly acted, badly written and unnecessary that it made me laugh.

 

But we have:

Rand and Mat running from Dana The Darkfriend like she had a gun

Ep. 5 grave-digging at surface level

Gheldean King's suicide squad

 

These scenes gave me a laugh 

 

That sense of humor terrifies me beyond the capacity for rational thought.

2 minutes ago, Elder_Haman said:

Episode 6 gets a solid 8 stars on IMDB. Your hope that the show will be a dismal failure is simply not materializing.

Right! That is the "hope" of the N&Ns

Just now, fra85uk said:

The death of the ferry-man is pure gold in this sense.

Just to put a button on this laugh(?). The whirlpool has already started before he jumps into the river. Is self-destructive activity either laughable, or unknow irl? Naah.

1 minute ago, WheelofJuke said:

No! It's all eyeballs on deck to bear witness to this abomination, to testify, and to see justice done. ?

The World (both the real and the imaginary) thank you for your sacrifice. Nobel Peace Prize or just right to Sainthood. Discuss.

1 minute ago, Finfolfin said:

Its rated badly on metacritic. I'm talking cowboy bebop territory.

When ratings are bad I agree.

When ratings are good, c'mon man, who believes in ratings?

1 minute ago, Gothic Flame said:

And the other third seems to be entertained.

So many!

Just now, Mnemosyne said:

Although I will say that friends of mine who haven't read the books are still enjoying the show.

Bingo. There is a correlation between those that read the Book and those that object to  characters, plot points, and, yes, set design. On the other hand, in the Book forum, there are some who complained long and loud about parts of the Book. The Amazon Series is based upon the Book and might even, heresy follows,

Thanks, for no threat to stop watching. That always raises concerns.

7 minutes ago, fra85uk said:

Hope?

I hate the food in this restaurant. And such small portions!

1 minute ago, WheelofJuke said:

"I just ain't buyin'."

Why continue to go into the store?

3 minutes ago, Wolfbrother31 said:

Any idea how they'll change the lore? Or will they not bother giving an explanation of why Loial is needed to go with them?

Some people complain if there is too much exposition. Others if there's not enough. Yet viewers without the Book as a standard, have no problem with the lapse in "explanations" that bother readers. For me, the party needs to get somewhere fast, Loial and others are required, so they do it. Show, don't tell. Do I care what happened to the horses? As others say above, that's something for Mat to do. Did the Book go into detail on that point?  "The Party left for the Ways. The horses were left to graze the vegetation. Later the Blue Ajah sent grooms to corral the horses and they spent many nights in the stables enjoying oats and the occasional apple from Tear."

The Dagger was wrapped up by Lan. Then what? Mebe, someone in the traveling party asks about the Dagger. Whoops, "It's gone!"

Cut back to Mat. Is PF about to take possession? And is Mat about to take that trip to the seashore he always wanted?

Cancel my lifetime subscription!

Moiraine kissed a girl.

7 hours ago, Sir_Charrid said:

Again this makes no real logical sense, at this point in time the Forsaken are not 100% on any of these being the dragon, Laila seems a random person to just take over. I think people are reading far far more into this scene than there is and am pretty sure when we learn what Rafe was referring to we will find it is completely different.  

Theories make "real logical sense" if, for one thing, they fit all the facts. This one fits all the facts. The only real problem others have with the theory is that "it's not in the Book." Likewise, one could say, "It makes no real logical sense for Nyn to be dragged away by a Trolloc. Why would a Trolloc drag away a random person?" In fact, it happened in Amazon, it was motivated by the importance of Nyn, and it advanced the story. In the case of Laila--she is not a random person. She is the only person who can kill the VIP, Perrin, under the circumstances of the Trolloc attack. It is clear that the forces of Evil have identified VIPs like Nyn and Perrin and want to eliminate them. The events in Eps. 1 and Eps. 3, show that the Evil attempting to eliminate Perrin is Baalzamon through his compulsion on Laila.

Other SF that might be great in film is the Doc E.E. Smith "Lensman" and "Skylark" series. They are both pulp fiction, but with quite interesting ideas, especially the Lensman's run through Earth history. I may be hallucinating by I thought I watched a Japanese Anime version of one Lensman story on laserdisk (!) with "Kimball Kinnison," but I have not been able to find any trace of it on the interwebs.

58 minutes ago, notpropaganda73 said:

Has anyone been watching the His Dark Materials series on BBC? I adore the books and hated the Daniel Craig-led movie

Like the series (on HBO), liked the movie. The casts are different, but equally fine imho. Ian McKellen as Iorek Byrnison is worth the price of admission. No doubt that the series is more faithful to an important theme: namely the identification of the Magisterium with the Church. Nevertheless, the movie was fine filmmaking, just for whatever reason, did not catch on with the public. Fantasy overload by then?  

The "Wizard of Oz" was a book first published in 1900. In 1939 they made a movie based on it called "Wizard of Oz." The movie took liberties including that it was a musical, there was no dream, no Professor Marvel, and no ruby slippers. Try to imagine, if there was an internet in 1939, the cries of anguish over the "gutting" of the plot and the characters. Of course now, the 1939 movie is considered a classic, and deviations from it were and will be loudly detested. Ofc, WoT is no WoO.

On 11/28/2021 at 11:30 AM, Guire said:

.  That's when I first watched The Outpost.

IMDB "surprisingly" suggested "The Outpost" recently so I started watching the first-episode origin story and the second episode. I had never seen these before. Two other things I noticed besides the common actor with WoT.

1. The medieval bar looks a lot like the bar in Hanging Aiel Town.

2. The heroine Talon uses the Lan Mandragoran "move" in the Last Battle to kill her first major villain.