Yesssssss Right back at you friend! God now I have to run back to find who that matches with.

Well now I am curious af

Wasn't it relating to the post I quoted? I think I actually have a guess

That's an easy promise to make. You saw the work I put in today, I plan on going just as hard tomorrow.

I do promise to look into it, though if we hit a wolf I feel like you might be the one put on the spot again. Who they nightkill will be telling ino

One last way to try to explain it because I think I do get where you are coming from. I am highlighting that his neighbor claim makes him more than likely than average to be a wolf the same way my rb claim makes Gud less likely than a average to be a wolf. None of this should disregard gamelplay but its informing your reads. I know I'm town, I know I'm right here man, and all of this has mayhem is throwing the game. We need to work together instead of arguing for 20 more pages or we are going to lose this game.

I will be driving but I gave my gameplay read and the @ post is the best I have for you today man. I am sorry I couldn't clear up my though process, or understand where you were coming from. Glgl and may the odds be in our favor

Zander, can you go back up to the post I @ you and talk to me about it. What I am saying is that a neighbor with a x1 makes sense. The only facet I can know for sure is the neighbor claim. I explained my though process above for if he or dice used their ability on me. Me thinking his x1 is reasonable has nothing to do with him being a wolf or not. I think he is just a wolf neighbor. I am not clearing gud, I think the scenario I am describing where gud is town is more likely to happen. If dice or verb targets me it's just heavily - ev to keep that quiet with everything happening today. We are literally going in circles here.

My confirmed info is I used my ability. I am trying to weight the options and I do not see Gud as the best option going forward... See last post plz. I feel like everyone is just watching us argue rn.

EVERYONE CAN'T BE TOWN! not everything a wolf says is a lie Zander. Wolves do lie but at the time of his reveal there wasn't much friction in the thread. IF he is a wolf and lies, how should this affect the view on my roleblock. He is an unknown besides Neighbor If he is town and affected my roleblock how is this +ev not to talk about. From what I know I used a RB. Kills went through. Gud didn't make the kill @Zander? can you talk about each individually? Variables. 1. Someone affected my roleblock a.Gud - Makes the most sense in this case. 1/6 shot to hit me. Based on gameplay and think this is the best play today. b.Dice- Hiding this seems -EV especially if he thought Gud was a wolf, knows the kills still went through because now I am speculating that him or ver hiding it seems like I am getting setup for tomorrow. Talking about targeting me stops uses speculation that has muddied this whole day. C.Verb- same as Dice. Am I missing something here when it comes to variable 1?? 2. Role block does not affect factional kills. D. Can both wolves NK be used on the same night? E. Did the other wolf just have a kill ability and a NK? Could be, but everyone in this thread is gunning for GUD. It seems like easy pickings because a mislynch means a wolf win. Variable 3- I suck and am completely wrong and have to admit zander is better at math than me. I don't see how Dice and verb handling of this have been +ev in anyone

No, I am trying to play off the information I have. I used a RB. Dice and Verb could have done something correct? If you are a town and you know your ability X canceled out someone else's (mine Y) in this case, who is using their knowledge to attempt to prevent a lynch on somebody the ENTIRE thread seems to think is a wolf. Wouldn't the most + EV thing to do is claim the shot? This has been such a cluster today. I made a post trying to ignore spec for you btw.

Zander, his neighbor has a x1, why would it be weird for him to have a x1. He didn't claim what it was and he claimed it as unused. ARE YOU TELLING ME I NEED TO SPECULATE MORE!!>>??!?!? Jesus lol this game is making my head hurt. Sorry to all the dead thread if anyone actually reads this anymore.

The wolves literally seal the win for one of them by Lynching verb if he was town.

I 100% think he is a neighbor, and this was all posted before me saying I roleblocked. No I don't think he is lying about him having a x1 ability he didn't use. I think he is lying about being a Town Neighbor. Alright man I laid out everything I could and I have to go out with Jackie now. I will be thread present but I don't know what else I can say today. Ill be here if you need me.

Verbal- I am putting quotes in spoilers because I am not going to find the post on it's own again. He has been the least consistent player that is alive today, Guds iso list was more work that he has put it IMO. Below is one of his first responses to getting pressure and please just tell me anything he has done before his I am a neighbor claim. He has been coasting. I felt like he twisted words to ride a wave that was building on Turrin Day as an easy access vote. I feel like he put him at L-1 if I am not mistaken. It just reads awkward and I really dislike it because he never even listened. Me + 1-2 others tried to talk to him for him just to say we were misrepping him... Verb had plenty of odd interactions with Darthe EOD 2 and I think that he is the W mate there. One of my two biggest issues is he lies about the first EOD and the tied trains. Look at his posts here and tell me they don't look wolfy AF He says he will get more active as we get more votes etc etc and we have nothing. We have speculation talk which has clouded this entire day. If Dice and Verb are both the last two wolves it makes sense to me they are throwing so much shade on my RB. Overall gameplay wise without spec involved Darthe- Verb, and if I had to link Gud it would probably be here as well. Hallia- Dice-Turrin My POE without spec involved. Dice/Gud I think I might give the slight edge to dice but the more I think about his Hallia post and his inactiveness day two the more I get worried. Zander I really need you to trust me here, I understand your concerns and the fact that I could still be wrong. I do not think I am though. Today is the day we win together, or lose together. Verb

Couldn't this be said that she is the easiest lynch today as well? I doubt I responded well as a new person when everyone in the game was gunning for me lmao.

I am grabbing a few muliquotes and hopefully spoilering them correctly with so points inside. >< Gud I have questioned nonstop through this game, and looked like a nervous wolf all of day one IMO. Her reads list when pressured by darthe just seemed off to me, and I viewed a little differently than Zander after the darthe flip. It looked like pressure when I first read though them but I see his point of view. I am fairly certain she followed me to cass as she had Turin as one of her only town reads but my thoughts there are limited as I just remember some posts zander quoted today. She made some iso's and I remember them looking like she was just doing work. I didn't think we got opinions from her but started to slowly warm up to the idea that it might just all be her being an inexperienced townie and started tinfoiling with some of her interactions starting to sound better tone wise. She was one of the bottom coming into today, and why I chose her. Dice- I felt like the beginning of his d1 was good but tapered off tremendously giving us promises as the days went on with less and less. Today he has done nothing but talk spec and attempt to discredit but that's all I say about that. Reading back his response of "Don't tell me we are taking someone off the table for this" was indeed in response to me and DPR which initially bugged me and he claimed to thought was to Turin when I brought it up today. They are listed below in order. The thing that really bugged me was his turrin vote post that I will talk about below. Making a vote based on poe here was terrible, the eventually goes to talk about how he does think Turin is a wolf based on everything Zander was berrating him on. Easy out imo. Turin hinted and claimed he was Washington multiple times and who cares if he was posting ad repping a certain character. it's very NAI and around this is when I started to try to subvert the lynch. I don't feel like we got much from dice d2 and only speculation from dice d3. He is the only one I think that fits Hallia's teammate. Posting this before verbal and will give final thoughts.

Zander, factors make it far less than 60% I'm simply not voting Gud here and I think we should look elsewhere. I don't want to lose the game based on some bad math, even if it is my math... though I think I'm right lol. I am going to go back through and post what you asked.

The neighbor who told us he didn't use his x1?

I said that in the post as well. Which is why I have only been talking about gud/dice....

Dice Gud Dpr I listed them all in my list lol,

@Zander?you keep flip flopping all over. And by all means waffle all you want. This has been a stressful day. Lets say If two wolves are in the game, if I was a wolf I would be happy to see another one die. I have 0 reason to go to such lengths and could have lynched her no problem today if I wanted. THE only reason she is still alive right now is probably because of me. If you are so sketched out by my view, why? What's the benefit for wolf seph here for any of this

I get the rest of your point though about claims.

I am not asking you to claim. I am saying if you blocked me, saying so would be a huge help, since this could possibly be Lylo. Claiming would have eliminated 25 pages today of uselessness. Blocking me and not saying it, and then attacking the person I am trying to say is a townie is just causing confusion in the thread

Nope, that is not logical. Verb- as we established did not ME- why are you including me in this scenario Dice- He could have but why all the speculation and not come out and tell us if he is town. That would have made today so much easier but instead he goes after the person I roleblocked and am viewing as a towny because of it. Key- No Roleblock DPR- Has a roleblock but you have said nothing of this. I was his top townie read and I would have bet he would have told you since he trusted you. You could have just outed me if I was a wolf. GUD- LITERALLY THE ONLY OPTION. Massive Misrep