Bold there is factually not true.

@dicetosser1 Where you at on RTE?

Yep. GTH you still on RTE?

@HeavyHalfMoonBlade - Would you shift from Zander currently?

Yeah - in most cases, essentially your best guess. FWIW this seems different to @Cairos from last game.

Thanks. ... Yolo takeaway is if you're wolfing already it's probably not with Z or Lenlo...

lolol did you miss the part where Zander said I'm the female version of him?? More seriously though, he's not entirely wrong, but he is smarter, faster and generally more effective at progressing the game, and this is ... me ... equally addicted to the madness but with crayons still up my nose (Siggy for the crayons/Heavy's read of me somehow please @Ithillian Turambar / @Gudrean ???) You can trust me more than Cairos though, if only because paramedic uniform >>>> nurse scrubs XD

*snort

@HeavyHalfMoonBlade you just made me sort my crayons XD

?Bold? What was the mixup other than 'Verb seemed to possibly have TMI' ?

Made it to today again! Ok 1. To add to the previous re You/Lenlo. Holymotherofbatmansbatman. You two!! So much hullabaloo, and a lot of it feels fishing more than actually fishy. Waiting to see where Lenlo goes next. 2. Buttt *stamps feet* Ithi said I can play any way I want, and she's the boss!!

FYI I'm not new - and my intro to this game was 1 x VT, followed by inheriting the curse of wishing I had been wolf and then being gifted Leelou's scum rands for the next ?12 - 14 games?... I'm probably still not recovered XD I'm curious as to why you put me in your 'newer/less experienced in Mafia' group? I don't think we played many games together, but there was at least one near the end of my game days IIRC, and you mentioned recognising me as not new in the signups? If it helps, I was thinking you might be sus for pretty much fluff posting and then sticking with Lenlo on the Zander LynchDiceWhileSleeping!! joke, but going back, immediate responses there plausibly add up and so are NAI in themselves XD, and slightly less sus equity exists with the increased engagement, content-analysis aside. Easy-seeming sense of humour on most things - except the aforementioned Dice callout? which... IMO really just follows the pattern of Zander/Dice and Dice/Zander Yo!Bro! game tradition in both alignments and is NAI/expected at that point. It would be highly unusual for either of them to do that, in either alignment, with the deliberate intention to start a lynch train on the other that way, FWIW. Would/Do wolf!Z or wolf!Dice probably feel the expectation to use it and do so hoping it slides by if the other was Town? Sometimes. Do Town!Dice/Town!Z also do this, both for lololol and interaction? Yep. But it's never a Wolfy "This is your train, Townies hop on!!" Hence, I think, Z's 'Dude just lol' post at the level of seriousness Lenlo interpreted/projected it as. @Zander? - TLDR, If you're Town asking if I'm struggling with Lenlo's vibe/tone/possi-gaslighty twisty feels in those interactions with you - yes. Is he actually a wolf for it? Iunno yet. Can you remember anything about how you read him previous games?

Come to the Light side. It took me forever to realise Coreh was right to believe in the odds are Town.

Yeeeahhh, but does Dice ever choose the player who wears glasses becomes a key internal question. And you're on the money for Cory/Shad's ability to dominate, I think it's because their brains can run with GOAT style 1.5 Is that trainable? Iunno, I can't stop chasing squirrels instead of counting trees.

XD You guys sound like my hubby when we play One Night XD Except he hasn't realised/admitted that the weight of nuances that knowing how a particular person is likely to think/act/react/seem in a particular alignment can really help inform actions a bit more when the odds of mechanics aren't necessarily AI. We have big 'fights' over this, because he'll vote and mislynch/lose games because odds/mechanics say it's possible even when the weight of personality/nuance of historical actions 'outweighs' it... For example, D1. IIRC, DM game meta secures a D1 wolf lynch significantly beyond the probability of the mechanics/odds that would say it's all highly unlikely? Even in the last game DM game meta was probably the reason Dice, Zander and I were looking at Sooh... FWIW RTE, I think most of what you're referring to as 'personal friendships and relationships' is essentially 'meta from other games' - there are friendships too, but it's the game knowledge/history that holds the weight, because the personality/friendship stuff is/should be NAI in game - when it isn't, that's when things seem sus/get sucked into tunnels. Glgl XD Also, Zander - please note, again, the tunnel warning XD

XD Got room in that pocket? I won't take it, but it looks semi-comfy from here so far XD z/L 'exciting' and 'fuzzy' how? (and is the lower case/capital specific)? NB/People correct me if I'm wrong, but Verb's meta = a pretty 'even'/'balanced' player, tone-evidence-wise, and Lenlo's = often fuzzy, so glgl to us all here.

# relatable XD But no, no D1 pass for Shad on that ever again, because +/- tinfoil for those last two games where that was definitely a trap

Are you up-to-date with the thread? And if so, any other vibes/thoughts, Gud?

a) You promised to try and learn! b) Where/what is the 'super obvious' part you're referring to??

How well do you read Dice and his 'special skill' vibe? Is there a difference between last game and this game for you? Side note, iirc there were early ?joke/slide? vibes by others about sheeping Dice's calls. NAI unless acted on...

Sorry if this has already been addressed/discussed later on, but - The Lenlo-Z probably not WW I can see/tend to agree with so far, but Where/How for the same impression on Lenlo-Turin? Light, I miss ISO.

DL in 9 hours, right?

Not sure what you mean by 'still just say' (?) but Ta. Was Dice's question AI for you/Did he push that he could draw an AI verdict on the interactions? I don't think I'm up to that part yet, or if I am I've forgotten it - in any case I'll keep reading and see if anything pops out.

@Zander? I see your post ❤️ Pls have patience, I'm old, tired, sore and mentally/physically slooooowww af rn - like reeeeeeeeeeeallly slooooooooowww - but I'll get there (hopefully). # yourcallisimportant,butpleasehold WRT 'Lenlo-you' situation - I'm up to pg 19... to that point I have been wondering if Lenlo was always as serious/hypervigilant/sensitive as I'm first-impressioning here. This is based on pretty much nothing but the way he reacted to what I see as jokes from Heavy and you. Not sure the joke reactions are AI. Have noted the reasons/responses he gave to my thoughts at the time, with hope that there's more to get feels on as things go forward. All I can remember of past meta is that there was a general consensus he was hard to read - can't remember why, can remember that once he was Town and I 'got' it, can't remember what made it so. If noone else has commented on it, or seemed to try and figure him out at all since then.... then o.O AAaaaand if you're talking about something else that happened after that, then see above and hope there's good hold music? (I'll give impressions when I have caught up/as they change - nothing more conclusive as of where I'm at rn).

FWIW current T-Z exchange looks ~good - glad I'm seeing it now and not still holding my breath on it from 17 pages ago if this is the first time you two have readdressed it... @Turin Turambar - Will the reason you asked besides asking Z be obvious by the time I'm caught up? You mention AI - if it's not that can you pls explain?